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Sun 07/22/12


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:09 AM - Re: Logbook software (Tim Olson)
     2. 04:36 AM - FS: SPOT Connect (Tim Olson)
     3. 07:42 AM - Re: Re: Logbook software (Tim Lewis)
     4. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Logbook software (John Jessen)
     5. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Logbook software (Bill Watson)
     6. 07:10 PM - ADS600-B vs. Transponder Antenna Locations... (Matt Dralle)
     7. 07:55 PM - Re: ADS600-B vs. Transponder Antenna Locations... (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:09:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Logbook software
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I just assumed it was pointless to try because every entry needs signing before its considered complete, but for those I do a spreadsheet first and then make sure every annual condition inspection I have it all in my chicken scratches in hard cover. I'm sure it is possible somehow and certainly David Saylor's print and sign would work. I do think though that to really get optimum "value" out of a logbook it would be best to be hardcover and print as-you-go. Remember that in the certified world a plane is almost worthless without its logs. So for those I just went the old route. Admittedly I do only catch up the paper logs once a year though usually....or I guess I'd do it anytime I have a "significant" entry. I find I refer to my spreadsheet all the time though...plus, doing it electronically allows me to quickly add lots of detail. I probably write more in my logbook and on my kneeboard while IFR each year than I actually hand write on paper in TOTAL for anything else. Probably WAY more. For me these days, handwriting is a lost form of communication and I have almost no use for a pencil or pen. I am nearly 100% paperless. If it really came down to it, I'd be comfortable with David's print a page and sign all the entries....but I think if I bought a plane I'd be happiest to have both hard and digital copies. Tim On Jul 21, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net> wrote: > > On 7/21/2012 8:48 PM, Michael Sausen wrote: >> >> What is everyone using for pilot or other logbook software? I'm thinking about moving more electronic and have been looking at the usual suspects like LogTen and Zululog. >> > > > Can we use electronic books for the plane (airframe, engine, prop)? > > -Dj > > -- > Dj Merrill - N1JOV > Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ > Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://deej.net/glastar/ > > >


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    Time: 04:36:07 AM PST US
    Subject: FS: SPOT Connect
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I've got a SPOT connect that I got new at OSH last year to use until I did my Alaska trip. It also is the only thing that works out in the Bahamas and way down in Mexico, but I probably won't bother to use it in the Bahamas and won't likely go back to Mexico soon. The spit connect is the one that can link to a smart phone and be used to send some predefined messages, and also you can type-and-send too, so it is kind of cool in that you can send people messages from the plane with info like "we just diverted and won't arrive tonight....will contact you later", or "we just had an off airport landing but we're all fine.". So the reason ingot the spot was because of that plus the Alaska trip. At this time though I don't think I'll renew the contract on the spot. I could hang onto it and activate it later but if anyone wants it for $100, I'll sell it. I'll throw in the extra couple pairs (I think I have 4) of lithium batteries too. My contract expires August 21 so you can use it for the trip home from OSH too. The only thing I did NOT like about it, is that in order to start the breadcrumbs tracking you HAVE to use the smart phone app to turn it on. You can do SOS without the phone, but to enable tracking you must use the phone. Once tracking is on, you can turn off Bluetooth and forget about it for the rest of the trip. Any takers just shoot me an email off list. If it doesn't go, maybe next year I'll use it for the bahamas, or, if there is interest, maybe I'll start renting it out for those of us that only want it for one or two trips a year....as long as it is being used by enough people to put a dent in the contract, I don't mind keeping it. Again, if some wanted to rent it for the trip home from OSH it's available. I hate even asking for any rental but at $150/yr it's not something I care to being anymore if I'm footing the whole bill. Tim


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    Time: 07:42:43 AM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Logbook software
    For my flight log, I take the same Excel-based approach Tim uses (with paper log book for signature-required items). My excel spreadsheet runs on my iPad using the "Documents To Go" app. DocsToGo costs $10, works on iPad and iPhone. The $17 "Premium" version supports Cloud storage (I think that's worth the extra $7). Documents To Go supports some (but not all) Excel functions. It's robust enough to support things like calculating IFR currency expiration date, which is all I need. Email me if you want a copy of my Excel sheet. Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold RV-10 N31TD -- 300 hrs Tim Olson said the following on 7/21/2012 9:24 PM: > > I use excel for a logbook and only log flight reviews or training time or anything that requires a signature in my hardcover log. > Tim > > > On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:08 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote: > >> >> I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time ago and don't want to transcribe a lot of data. >> >> It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in type, total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...." >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378889#378889 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 11:51:15 AM PST US
    From: John Jessen <n212pj@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Logbook software
    I use Excel as well. It allows me to track everything from flight hours to oil usage to very detailed notes on flights to flight instruction hours, with whom, etc etc etc. I have excel pages dedicated to engine and airframe, and to major sign-offs, including medical, transponder, biennial, etc. Then two or three times a year I update my paper log. All endorsements are in the paper logs, however. ... by phone On Jul 22, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net> wrote: > > For my flight log, I take the same Excel-based approach Tim uses (with paper log book for signature-required items). > > My excel spreadsheet runs on my iPad using the "Documents To Go" app. DocsToGo costs $10, works on iPad and iPhone. The $17 "Premium" version supports Cloud storage (I think that's worth the extra $7). Documents To Go supports some (but not all) Excel functions. It's robust enough to support things like calculating IFR currency expiration date, which is all I need. Email me if you want a copy of my Excel sheet. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > RV-10 N31TD -- 300 hrs > > Tim Olson said the following on 7/21/2012 9:24 PM: >> >> I use excel for a logbook and only log flight reviews or training time or anything that requires a signature in my hardcover log. >> Tim >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:08 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> >>> I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time ago and don't want to transcribe a lot of data. >>> >>> It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in type, total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...." >>> >>> -------- >>> Bob Turner >>> RV-10 QB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378889#378889 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 03:38:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Logbook software
    From: Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    I use the log book output from my GRT HX system which produces a .xls directly. Then I add notes as needed. I have a number of additional sheets with things like W&B in the same workbook. Documents to Go sounds like the perfect enhancement. Thanks. Bill Watson Sent from my iPad On Jul 22, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net> wrote: > > For my flight log, I take the same Excel-based approach Tim uses (with paper log book for signature-required items). > > My excel spreadsheet runs on my iPad using the "Documents To Go" app. DocsToGo costs $10, works on iPad and iPhone. The $17 "Premium" version supports Cloud storage (I think that's worth the extra $7). Documents To Go supports some (but not all) Excel functions. It's robust enough to support things like calculating IFR currency expiration date, which is all I need. Email me if you want a copy of my Excel sheet. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > RV-10 N31TD -- 300 hrs > > Tim Olson said the following on 7/21/2012 9:24 PM: >> >> I use excel for a logbook and only log flight reviews or training time or anything that requires a signature in my hardcover log. >> Tim >> >> >> On Jul 21, 2012, at 8:08 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> >>> I use Excel as a backup to a written logbook because I started a long time ago and don't want to transcribe a lot of data. >>> >>> It is handy at insurance renewal time when they ask "total time, time in type, total time last year, time in type last year, time last 90 days, ...." >>> >>> -------- >>> Bob Turner >>> RV-10 QB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378889#378889 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 07:10:06 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: ADS600-B vs. Transponder Antenna Locations...
    Dear Listers, The manual for the NavWorx ADS600-B says that the normal transponder antenna and the UAT antenna "MUST be at least 5 feet apart". On an RV-8, that presents somewhat of a problem. Realistically, the farthest forward you can mount a transponder fin is just behind the main spar under the aileron pushrods. 5 feet back from that point is right under the rear-mounted battery box! That means that the next realistic place is right behind the elevator bellcrank and behind bulkhead F-808. The coax w/ TNC connector on one end that comes with the ADS600-B is just long enough to make it to the forward position. I was thinking of mounting the transponder antenna (Garmin GTX-237) in the aft position as described above and using RG-400. But that's pretty far back for a transponder antenna. I've never seen one mounted there before. Any reason why I wouldn't want to mount it there? The only other option would be to mount it out on the wing somewhere to maintain the 5' separation. But that's even goofier, it seems to me... Thoughts? Thanks, - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 110+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode


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    Time: 07:55:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS600-B vs. Transponder Antenna Locations...
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I'd do what it takes to put them 5' apart. The transponder and AD-B are high wattage and put out a lot of RF. Not familiar with your mounting locations on that model but either antenna should work basically anywhere on the belly just fine....even back just forward of the rudder. So I'd just buy some RG-400 and find a spot that is 5' away, is easy, looks ok, and gives options should you add some other antenna like APRS or any other future antenna. Should be doable. Tim On Jul 22, 2012, at 9:09 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > The manual for the NavWorx ADS600-B says that the normal transponder antenna and the UAT antenna "MUST be at least 5 feet apart". On an RV-8, that presents somewhat of a problem. Realistically, the farthest forward you can mount a transponder fin is just behind the main spar under the aileron pushrods. 5 feet back from that point is right under the rear-mounted battery box! That means that the next realistic place is right behind the elevator bellcrank and behind bulkhead F-808. The coax w/ TNC connector on one end that comes with the ADS600-B is just long enough to make it to the forward position. I was thinking of mounting the transponder antenna (Garmin GTX-237) in the aft position as described above and using RG-400. > > But that's pretty far back for a transponder antenna. I've never seen one mounted there before. Any reason why I wouldn't want to mount it there? > > The only other option would be to mount it out on the wing somewhere to maintain the 5' separation. But that's even goofier, it seems to me... > > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > > - > Matt Dralle > > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" > http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log > Status: 110+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode > > > > >




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