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1. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Elevator in trail (Chris)
2. 06:19 AM - Wing cradle - Colorado Springs (hotwheels)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Elevator in trail (Seano)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Elevator in trail (Kelly McMullen)
5. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: Elevator in trail (Pascal)
6. 10:46 AM - Re: KUES / KMWC / 02C Airport info request (Timothy Meyer)
7. 12:30 PM - Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] FS: RV-10 Empennage Kit $1800 (Pascal)
8. 02:54 PM - Re: drywash recommendation (Rob Kermanj)
9. 03:43 PM - Re: Matco Nosewheel (Alel replacement) (Rick Lark)
10. 03:47 PM - Re: drywash recommendation (Lew Gallagher)
11. 04:18 PM - Re: Re: drywash recommendation (Rob Kermanj)
12. 04:21 PM - Re: Re: drywash recommendation (Rob Kermanj)
13. 05:46 PM - Re: drywash recommendation (Pascal)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator in trail |
Consider a stabilator - all moving tail, I wonder how you tell where one of
those is supposed to be in cruise??
-Chris
N919AR
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Elevator in trail
Well, most every Mooney I have flown in has a more pronounced elevator
displacement during cruise. I don't think you are going to get
perfection on angle of incidence to the point you get rid of elevator
displacement. Maybe could be done for one specific wt and cruise speed,
but would be out for anything else.
On 7/29/2012 9:04 PM, woxofswa wrote:
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> I don't have one in front of me, but I seem to recall seeing ad pictures
of the yellow RV10 demonstrator in magazines wherein you see a bunch of the
elevator counterweight protruding up. I always thought that was odd.
>
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> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done,
finishing kit in progress.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379549#379549
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| Subject: | Wing cradle - Colorado Springs |
I'm happy to say that my wing cradle is no longer needed and it's just taking up
space in the hangar. Free to any builder in Colorado Springs / Denver area that
wants to take it off my hands...
Contact me offline jaybrinkmeyer at yahoo.com.
Cheers,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator in trail |
Stick force.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <toaster73@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Elevator in trail
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> Consider a stabilator - all moving tail, I wonder how you tell where one
> of
> those is supposed to be in cruise??
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> -Chris
>
> N919AR
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:08 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Elevator in trail
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> Well, most every Mooney I have flown in has a more pronounced elevator
> displacement during cruise. I don't think you are going to get
> perfection on angle of incidence to the point you get rid of elevator
> displacement. Maybe could be done for one specific wt and cruise speed,
> but would be out for anything else.
>
> On 7/29/2012 9:04 PM, woxofswa wrote:
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>> I don't have one in front of me, but I seem to recall seeing ad pictures
> of the yellow RV10 demonstrator in magazines wherein you see a bunch of
> the
> elevator counterweight protruding up. I always thought that was odd.
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>> Myron Nelson
>> Mesa, AZ
>> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done,
> finishing kit in progress.
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379549#379549
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator in trail |
The Mooney uses an all moving tail, including the vertical stab. It is
like any other tail setup, you trim for neutral forces.
Where the elevator winds up is apparently a function of c.g. mostly. To
have a longitudinally stable aircraft the tail has to be generating some
downforce, it can't be neutral.
On 7/30/2012 5:40 AM, Chris wrote:
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> Consider a stabilator - all moving tail, I wonder how you tell where one of
> those is supposed to be in cruise??
>
> -Chris
>
> N919AR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 1:08 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Elevator in trail
>
>
> Well, most every Mooney I have flown in has a more pronounced elevator
> displacement during cruise. I don't think you are going to get
> perfection on angle of incidence to the point you get rid of elevator
> displacement. Maybe could be done for one specific wt and cruise speed,
> but would be out for anything else.
>
> On 7/29/2012 9:04 PM, woxofswa wrote:
>>
>> I don't have one in front of me, but I seem to recall seeing ad pictures
> of the yellow RV10 demonstrator in magazines wherein you see a bunch of the
> elevator counterweight protruding up. I always thought that was odd.
>> --------
>> Myron Nelson
>> Mesa, AZ
>> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done,
> finishing kit in progress.
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379549#379549
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator in trail |
Probably already covered. Been flying so not following this thread.
Tim made comment on this on his page-
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20080622/index.html
My plane flies great, don't lose too much time worrying about this.. keep
building!
-----Original Message-----
From: woxofswa
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 9:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Elevator in trail
I don't have one in front of me, but I seem to recall seeing ad pictures of
the yellow RV10 demonstrator in magazines wherein you see a bunch of the
elevator counterweight protruding up. I always thought that was odd.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done,
finishing kit in progress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379549#379549
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| Subject: | Re: KUES / KMWC / 02C Airport info request |
Used a Crew Car from Gran Aire at Timmerman last Thursday while waiting out
some weather to go to lunch.
Call them at *414-461-3222 * and verify hours for car return. I don't see
their hours posted on the web site.
http://flymilwaukee.com/ <http://flymilwaukee.com/default.asp>
I'm sorry for your loss.
Tim
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
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> Hey, you guys from the KUES/KMWC/02C area in SouthEast Wisconsin
> don't happen to have any good connections down there so I'd
> be able to get a courtesy car for maybe 4 hours or so Monday
> night, do you? I have an Aunt who died and if I can get some
> ground transportation lined up, I'd like to come down there
> Monday night quick for the wake. Not 100% sure I'll make
> it yet, but I'd like to, if I can. The visitation time would
> be 4-7pm, so I'd have to skip out of work and head down.
> It's here: W173 S7629 Westwood Drive, Muskego
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Fw: [SoCAL-RVlist] FS: RV-10 Empennage Kit $1800 |
FYI- Know nothing about this build
May be worth someone within driving distance of 1 day to consider the
drive out for this price!
Don=99t contact him unless YOU can physically pick it up. That was
his one condition for this. One would want to see it anyway, I would
guess.
From: wtondu
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] FS: RV-10 Empennage Kit $1800
Local delivery/pickup only. Located KTOA (Torrance Airport)
$1800 - partially built. This is HALF Van's price.
All Details here:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=87074&highlight=
rv-10+empennage
Pics here:
http://www.tondu.com/rv10
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| Subject: | Re: drywash recommendation |
I bought the Wash Wax All and so far I like it. I did not buy the other recommendations
because their packing size, pricing and shipping did not make them a
good value.
The Wash Wax All came in a gallon size from Amazon for less than $40.
It compare similarly to Turtle Wax Express Shine however, it really takes bugs
off impressively well. It really comes handy in Florida.
do not archive
RobK
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Pascal wrote:
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> Report back with your findings after you have used both products.
> Thx
> Pascal
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> -----Original Message----- From: Rob Kermanj
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: drywash recommendation
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> Thanks David. Iw I'll try both recommendations do far.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:03 PM, David Maib <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
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>> I've had very good luck with Wash Wax All. It is available at pilot supply shops and Aircraft Spruce. http://www.washwax.com/products/Wash+Wax+ALL+Cleaner.html
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>> David Maib
>> 40559
>> Flying
>> Transition Trainer
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>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
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>> Any recommendations for a good aircraft dry-wash?
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>> Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Nosewheel (Alel replacement) |
Les, excellent, thx for all your help. I'm going to forget about the
Beringer wheel, and just delete the Vans parts and order from Matco, wheel,
axle etc. I think I will also delete the tire/tube combo Vans sells as
well, and buy the Dresser tire/tube that most have ended up using.
Thx again, Rick
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Rick
>
> In case you aren't aware, Matco also makes an axle replacement - see
> http://www.matcomfg.com/AXLEASSEMBLYA24125INCH-idv-3657-1.html
>
> This is a brilliantly simple product that eliminates the bearing preload /
> galling issues on the standard VANS forks / axle setup. It took all of 10
> minutes to install. It uses an additional bolt to keep the axle from
> rotating with the wheel. This in turns eliminates the galling of the forks.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Lark
> *Sent:* July-29-12 9:29 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Matco Nosewheel
>
> Les, so this is a fix for the original wheel, instead of trading the
> Vans supplied wheel with the Matco wheel that others done?
>
> Rick
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> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
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>>
>> Hi
>>
>> When I was at KOSH I spoke to a Matco rep about the "incorrect" nosehweel
>> that Vans sells for the -10. The problem is that the valve stem / cap is to
>> close to (or impacts) the forks when the tube is installed. I thought the
>> only option was to get a replacement half from Matco but that is not the
>> case.
>>
>> Apperently, according to the rep, if you drill an exit hole for the valve
>> stem in the opposite half (from the side that does have the hole, the stem
>> will come out correctly. You will also have to replicate / enlarge the "U"
>> shaped hole on the interior of the wheel to accommodate the nut that
>> protects the valve stem as it passes into the interior of the wheel.
>> Lastly, you need to fill the original valve stem hole hole.
>>
>> This is a very simple fix that took only a couple of hours to do.
>>
>> Cheers
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>> Les
>> #40643
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| Subject: | Re: drywash recommendation |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aircraft-RV-Boat-Waterless-Car-Wash-Wax-FREE-Sprayer-/200535898272?hash=item2eb0def8a0&vxp=mtr
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379641#379641
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| Subject: | Re: drywash recommendation |
Great deal. I will buy another bottle. Thanks.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:47 PM, "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
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> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
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| Subject: | Re: drywash recommendation |
Went to check out. It sez $9.95 shipping. Exactly what I paid to Amazon.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:47 PM, "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aircraft-RV-Boat-Waterless-Car-Wash-Wax-FREE-Sprayer-/200535898272?hash=item2eb0def8a0&vxp=mtr
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> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
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| Subject: | Re: drywash recommendation |
Are you literally cleaning a dirty (I mean dirty) plane and just wiping off
the dirt? or does this require a wet spray, let set for a few minutes than
wipe off, seeing a dirty rag but clean part? I use a simple wash and wax and
it seems to make mud of the dirt versus a clean and simple process.
Thx!
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Kermanj
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: drywash recommendation
I bought the Wash Wax All and so far I like it. I did not buy the other
recommendations because their packing size, pricing and shipping did not
make them a good value.
The Wash Wax All came in a gallon size from Amazon for less than $40.
It compare similarly to Turtle Wax Express Shine however, it really takes
bugs off impressively well. It really comes handy in Florida.
do not archive
RobK
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Pascal wrote:
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> Report back with your findings after you have used both products.
> Thx
> Pascal
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Rob Kermanj
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: drywash recommendation
>
>
> Thanks David. Iw I'll try both recommendations do far.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 1, 2012, at 9:03 PM, David Maib <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've had very good luck with Wash Wax All. It is available at pilot
>> supply shops and Aircraft Spruce.
>> http://www.washwax.com/products/Wash+Wax+ALL+Cleaner.html
>>
>> David Maib
>> 40559
>> Flying
>> Transition Trainer
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
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>> Any recommendations for a good aircraft dry-wash?
>>
>> Thanks.
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