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Sun 08/05/12


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:03 AM - Re: leaking brake calipers (David Leikam)
     2. 08:22 AM - Re: leaking brake calipers (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 08:45 AM - Re: leaking brake calipers (David Leikam)
     4. 10:50 AM - Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue (woxofswa)
     5. 06:06 PM - Windscreen Installation  (Les Kearney)
     6. 06:15 PM - Re: Windscreen Installation  (Seano)
     7. 06:29 PM - Re: Windscreen Installation (Carl Froehlich)
     8. 06:37 PM - Re: Windscreen Installation (bill.peyton)
     9. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: Windscreen Installation (Les Kearney)
    10. 07:07 PM - Re: Windscreen Installation (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
    11. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: Windscreen Installation (Seano)
    12. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: Windscreen Installation (Les Kearney)
    13. 07:25 PM - Re: Re: Windscreen Installation (David Maib)
    14. 08:21 PM - Re: Windscreen Installation (Dave Saylor)
    15. 09:21 PM - Re: Windscreen Installation (Bill Watson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:03:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: leaking brake calipers
    From: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>
    Thanks! I'll get the viton seals and give them a try. I use Amsoil ATF fluid. https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ATF.aspx?zo=1785021ww.amsoil.com/storefront/A And I carry a Halon extinguisher. 170 hours and the pads look OK although I just ordered Rapco pads, rotors and desser tires. Dave Leikam On Aug 4, 2012, at 10:30 PM, David Leikam wrote: > > I flew into OSH and landed on runway 9 last Friday during the show. I had to taxi quite a distance on turf to get to the HBP area with the other 10's. As I got closer to the parking area, i noticed my brakes getting spongy. > I don't think I ride the brakes much at all but taxiing on the grass made me tap dance on them quite a bit. I few back to KUES that evening and found a leaking right caliper. Opened it up and found the o-ring pretty worn on one side, almost flat. The wall looked good with no sign of scoring or scratches. I replaced the o-ring but have not tested the brakes yet. I also found the left caliper leaking slightly as well. Have not inspected it yet. The plane has about 170 hours. Had no problems prior to this flight. > The question is, would heating up the brakes cause the o-rings to fail? > > Dave Leikam > > > >


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    Time: 08:22:51 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: leaking brake calipers
    Hmm, While the Amsoil is a hydraulic fluid, I don't know that it tells you anything about its suitability for aircraft brakes. Things like compatibility with seals, flash point, viscosity vs temp range. Given that the Royco 782 that is aircraft brake fluid, and is compatible with all other aircraft brake fluids, is within $1 of the same price for a quart, I question this diversion to non-aircraft fluid. When you leak some and need to top off at an FBO, will you know how 5606 that they have on hand will react with the Amsoil? TheMIL-PRF-83282D assures that the Royco will be compatible, only losing some of its higher flash point, if mixed. I can't imagine why you would need rotors before you have a few thousand hours on the plane. Kelly On 8/5/2012 6:02 AM, David Leikam wrote: > > Thanks! I'll get the viton seals and give them a try. I use Amsoil ATF fluid. https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ATF.aspx?zo=1785021ww.amsoil.com/storefront/A > And I carry a Halon extinguisher. 170 hours and the pads look OK although I just ordered Rapco pads, rotors and desser tires. > > Dave Leikam > > On Aug 4, 2012, at 10:30 PM, David Leikam wrote: > >> >> I flew into OSH and landed on runway 9 last Friday during the show. I had to taxi quite a distance on turf to get to the HBP area with the other 10's. As I got closer to the parking area, i noticed my brakes getting spongy. >> I don't think I ride the brakes much at all but taxiing on the grass made me tap dance on them quite a bit. I few back to KUES that evening and found a leaking right caliper. Opened it up and found the o-ring pretty worn on one side, almost flat. The wall looked good with no sign of scoring or scratches. I replaced the o-ring but have not tested the brakes yet. I also found the left caliper leaking slightly as well. Have not inspected it yet. The plane has about 170 hours. Had no problems prior to this flight. >> The question is, would heating up the brakes cause the o-rings to fail? >> >> Dave Leikam >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:45:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: leaking brake calipers
    From: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>
    I ordered the rotors just to keep on the shelf as long as I was stocking up on pads and other parts. I was recommended to use the ATF a while ago, and after some research decided to use it. Higher flash point as well. Again, look here - https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ATF.aspx?zo=1785021ww.amsoil.com/storefront/A Your point is well taken however. Dave Leikam On Aug 5, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Hmm, > While the Amsoil is a hydraulic fluid, I don't know that it tells you anything about its suitability for aircraft brakes. Things like compatibility with seals, flash point, viscosity vs temp range. > Given that the Royco 782 that is aircraft brake fluid, and is compatible with all other aircraft brake fluids, is within $1 of the same price for a quart, I question this diversion to non-aircraft fluid. When you leak some and need to top off at an FBO, will you know how 5606 that they have on hand will react with the Amsoil? TheMIL-PRF-83282D assures that the Royco will be compatible, only losing some of its higher flash point, if mixed. > I can't imagine why you would need rotors before you have a few thousand hours on the plane. > Kelly > > On 8/5/2012 6:02 AM, David Leikam wrote: >> >> Thanks! I'll get the viton seals and give them a try. I use Amsoil ATF fluid. https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/ATF.aspx?zo=1785021ww.amsoil.com/storefront/A >> And I carry a Halon extinguisher. 170 hours and the pads look OK although I just ordered Rapco pads, rotors and desser tires. >> >> Dave Leikam >> >> On Aug 4, 2012, at 10:30 PM, David Leikam wrote: >> >>> >>> I flew into OSH and landed on runway 9 last Friday during the show. I had to taxi quite a distance on turf to get to the HBP area with the other 10's. As I got closer to the parking area, i noticed my brakes getting spongy. >>> I don't think I ride the brakes much at all but taxiing on the grass made me tap dance on them quite a bit. I few back to KUES that evening and found a leaking right caliper. Opened it up and found the o-ring pretty worn on one side, almost flat. The wall looked good with no sign of scoring or scratches. I replaced the o-ring but have not tested the brakes yet. I also found the left caliper leaking slightly as well. Have not inspected it yet. The plane has about 170 hours. Had no problems prior to this flight. >>> The question is, would heating up the brakes cause the o-rings to fail? >>> >>> Dave Leikam >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:50:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plane Power and Lycoming Pulley Alignment Issue
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    I bought the $30 kit and it worked perfectly. Fortunately, the old bushing twisted right out so I didn't have to do the solvent soak I've read about. For the cross brace I just flattened out some of the z-bend in the vice but left a little for retention grip. I agree that the builder shouldn't have to eat the cost of this fix through no fault of their own. In my case, I am installing A/C and specifically needed the double pulley so I didn't press the issue of payment. One would think that if it costs so much to machine the bushing, that the old bushing would have some residual value to Plane Power. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380097#380097


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    Time: 06:06:45 PM PST US
    From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Windscreen Installation
    Hi Today I had a fun filled time trimming my windscreen in anticipation of installing it tomorrow. Looking at the plans, it would seem that the inside of the windscreen, at the bottom, would merely reveal the epoxy / fibreglass used to glue it in place (on the outside). I am wondering if it is necessary to cover the interior with something so it looks finished. Any comments / ideas? Cheers Les #40643


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    Time: 06:15:18 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    Windscreen InstallationAircraft Spruce sells black dye specifically to color glass and resin. I used this on mine and it worked great. ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Kearney To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: RV10-List: Windscreen Installation Hi Today I had a fun filled time trimming my windscreen in anticipation of installing it tomorrow. Looking at the plans, it would seem that the inside of the windscreen, at the bottom, would merely reveal the epoxy / fibreglass used to glue it in place (on the outside). I am wondering if it is necessary to cover the interior with something so it looks finished. Any comments / ideas? Cheers Les #40643


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    Time: 06:29:00 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Windscreen Installation
    I used carbon fiber for the windscreen lower section. I found the carbon fiber easier to work with then glass, and it looks cool on the inside. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Windscreen Installation Hi Today I had a fun filled time trimming my windscreen in anticipation of installing it tomorrow. Looking at the plans, it would seem that the inside of the windscreen, at the bottom, would merely reveal the epoxy / fibreglass used to glue it in place (on the outside). I am wondering if it is necessary to cover the interior with something so it looks finished. Any comments / ideas? Cheers Les #40643


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    Time: 06:37:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
    You can also pick up the black dye at west marine. -------- Bill WA0SYV Aviation Partners, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380140#380140


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    Time: 06:51:16 PM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    Hmmmm The dye sounds like what I want. Do you have a product name / description? Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2012-08-05, at 7:36 PM, "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > You can also pick up the black dye at west marine. > > -------- > Bill > WA0SYV > Aviation Partners, LLC > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380140#380140 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:07:31 PM PST US
    From: "Dick & Vicki Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    Windscreen InstallationI painted the inside surface with a flat black to provide a view block like on car windshields Dick Sipp From: Carl Froehlich Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:28 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Windscreen Installation I used carbon fiber for the windscreen lower section. I found the carbon fiber easier to work with then glass, and it looks cool on the inside. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Windscreen Installation Hi Today I had a fun filled time trimming my windscreen in anticipation of installing it tomorrow. Looking at the plans, it would seem that the inside of the windscreen, at the bottom, would merely reveal the epoxy / fibreglass used to glue it in place (on the outside). I am wondering if it is necessary to cover the interior with something so it looks finished. Any comments / ideas? Cheers Les #40643 http://www.matronic=================htt p://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web generous nbsp; --> http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 07:10:39 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/epoxyPigments.php ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 7:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Windscreen Installation > > Hmmmm > > The dye sounds like what I want. Do you have a product name / description? > > Cheers > > Les > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2012-08-05, at 7:36 PM, "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> >> You can also pick up the black dye at west marine. >> >> -------- >> Bill >> WA0SYV >> Aviation Partners, LLC >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380140#380140 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:18:20 PM PST US
    From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    Hi Again To quote Emily Latella, "Nevermind". I found the dye. Spruce lists it as a pigment and not as a dye. I think I know where I can get it locally as well. Thanks Again Les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: August-05-12 7:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Windscreen Installation Hmmmm The dye sounds like what I want. Do you have a product name / description? Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2012-08-05, at 7:36 PM, "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > --> <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> > > You can also pick up the black dye at west marine. > > -------- > Bill > WA0SYV > Aviation Partners, LLC > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380140#380140 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:25:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    From: David Maib <dmaib@me.com>
    Ah, yes! Emily Latella. You are giving a clue to your vintage, Les! ^_^ David Maib RV-10 Transition Training 40559 On Aug 5, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Les Kearney wrote: Hi Again To quote Emily Latella, "Nevermind". I found the dye. Spruce lists it as a pigment and not as a dye. I think I know where I can get it locally as well. Thanks Again Les -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: August-05-12 7:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Windscreen Installation Hmmmm The dye sounds like what I want. Do you have a product name / description? Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2012-08-05, at 7:36 PM, "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > --> <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> > > You can also pick up the black dye at west marine. > > -------- > Bill > WA0SYV > Aviation Partners, LLC > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380140#380140 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:21:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    I painted the inside flat black for the first 1.5" or so. --Dave On Aug 5, 2012, at 18:05, "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi > > Today I had a fun filled time trimming my windscreen in anticipation of in stalling it tomorrow. > > Looking at the plans, it would seem that the inside of the windscreen, at t he bottom, would merely reveal the epoxy / fibreglass used to glue it in pla ce (on the outside). I am wondering if it is necessary to cover the interior with something so it looks finished. > > Any comments / ideas? > > Cheers > > Les > #40643 > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 09:21:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Windscreen Installation
    From: Bill Watson <mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    I used black dye in the resin. Made it look like carbon on the inside. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/epoxyPigments.php Sent from my iPad On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:28 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wr ote: > I used carbon fiber for the windscreen lower section. I found the carbon f iber easier to work with then glass, and it looks cool on the inside. > > Carl > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 9:06 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Windscreen Installation > > Hi > > Today I had a fun filled time trimming my windscreen in anticipation of in stalling it tomorrow. > > Looking at the plans, it would seem that the inside of the windscreen, at t he bottom, would merely reveal the epoxy / fibreglass used to glue it in pla ce (on the outside). I am wondering if it is necessary to cover the interior with something so it looks finished. > > Any comments / ideas? > > Cheers > > Les > #40643 > > > http://www.matronic================ > http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web generous nbsp; --> http://www.matronics.com/c > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >




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