RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 08/18/12


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:24 AM - Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance (Bill Watson)
     2. 09:51 AM - Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance (Marcus Cooper)
     3. 10:36 AM - Shudder/shimmy on landing (Tim Lewis)
     4. 10:45 AM - Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance (Carl Froehlich)
     5. 11:06 AM - Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing (Seano)
     6. 11:45 AM - Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance (Bill Watson)
     7. 12:10 PM - Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance (Marcus Cooper)
     8. 05:00 PM - Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing (Roger Standley)
     9. 05:08 PM - Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing (Steve T)
    10. 06:20 PM - Trip out West (Jesse Saint)
    11. 07:02 PM - Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing (BELTEDAIR@aol.com)
    12. 08:13 PM - Re: Trip out West (Kelly McMullen)
    13. 11:01 PM - RV-10 Battery ()
    14. 11:18 PM - Re: RV-10 Battery (Dave Saylor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:24:04 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance
    Having just completed my first condition inspection, I found that I needed jacking solutions so I could pull the wheels. Thanks to all who have previously posted jack solutions. I'm posting my designs to hopefully save others some time. The key things for me; it had to be reliable, low cost to fabricate, and no welding. Main gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=0&log=154391&row=2 Nose gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=0&log=154392&row=1 Bill "back to traveling again" Watson


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    Time: 09:51:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance
    From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net>
    Bill, These are great ideas and remarkably timely as it's that time of year for me again as well. Thanks!!!! Marcus do not archive On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: Having just completed my first condition inspection, I found that I needed jacking solutions so I could pull the wheels. Thanks to all who have previously posted jack solutions. I'm posting my designs to hopefully save others some time. The key things for me; it had to be reliable, low cost to fabricate, and no welding. Main gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=0&log=154391&row=2 Nose gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=0&log=154392&row=1 Bill "back to traveling again" Watson


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    Time: 10:36:38 AM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net>
    Subject: Shudder/shimmy on landing
    Like many RV-10s (apparently), mine shudders during the landing rollout. Mine starts when decelerating through 35-40 knots (or so) on landing. The speed range at which the shudder occurs is only a small number of knots - less than 5 knot range I think, so the shudder phase stops pretty quickly during deceleration. Hard braking may make the shudder more intense. Based on the successful experiences reported by Tim Olson and others, I bought the Marc Parnes DU42 wheel balancer (http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42), and used that to balance all my wheels. The DU42 is very nice piece of equipment -- surprisingly sensitive. http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG It took a significant amount of weight to balance the wheels (several 1/4oz weights on each wheel). From what I've read, others have had this same experience. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/TireWts.JPG I also installed the planearound.com Wheel Fairing Bracket Spacers to stiffen up the wheel fairing attachment to the main gear. The planearound product is well made, fit fine, and really does stiffen up the wheel fairing bracket attachment. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG Results: No discernible change in landing roll out behavior. I still get about the same shudder on roll out. Perhaps the onset speed has been raised a small number of knots as a result of balancing and adding the brackets, but I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure what else to try. Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold RV-10 N31TD -- 340 hrs


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    Time: 10:45:03 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance
    Bill, I did something similar but I use a padded block on top. The padded block is just a 2x6 covered in scrap insulation material. The block is held in place by a pipe flange that has a 1/4" thick piece of scrap aluminum so that the jack does not work its way through the wood block. The flange also allows the block to swivel on the jack, aligning the block with the wing tapper, but the flange rig prevents the block from slipping off the jack. I position the center of the block long ways under the wing spar. My thought on this was to spread the load over a larger area. I was also concerned of jacking up the wing using a bolt in the tie down as either a slip off the bolt or the tie down screw block not holding would cause significant damage. I may just be paranoid on this aspect - but I'm happy with how this works. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: RV10-List: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance Having just completed my first condition inspection, I found that I needed jacking solutions so I could pull the wheels. Thanks to all who have previously posted jack solutions. I'm posting my designs to hopefully save others some time. The key things for me; it had to be reliable, low cost to fabricate, and no welding. Main gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c ategory=0&log=154391&row=2 Nose gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c ategory=0&log=154392&row=1 Bill "back to traveling again" Watson


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    Time: 11:06:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing
    From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com>
    Tim, I fiberglassed oak stiffeners on the back of my gear legs. They fit inside the fairing and are basically triangle shaped and milled to fit on the round tapered gear leg. They have really helped with the shimmy. Mine started around 30 kias. If I'm really light and by myself I feel a little shimmy but much less than ever before the stiffeners. If I have any passengers with me or cargo I have no shimmy at all with the stiffeners. Before it would shimmy in any configuration. You can try what I did an that was using strapping tape first to try then out. After it worked I prosealed the woo to the gear leg then glasses them in using a spiral technique with 3" glass tape. Good luck I might be delivering a CJ to Manassas at the end of the month. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:35, Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net> wrote: > > Like many RV-10s (apparently), mine shudders during the landing rollout. Mine starts when decelerating through 35-40 knots (or so) on landing. The speed range at which the shudder occurs is only a small number of knots - less than 5 knot range I think, so the shudder phase stops pretty quickly during deceleration. Hard braking may make the shudder more intense. > > Based on the successful experiences reported by Tim Olson and others, I bought the Marc Parnes DU42 wheel balancer (http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42), and used that to balance all my wheels. The DU42 is very nice piece of equipment -- surprisingly sensitive. > > http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42 > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG > > It took a significant amount of weight to balance the wheels (several 1/4oz weights on each wheel). From what I've read, others have had this same experience. > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/TireWts.JPG > > I also installed the planearound.com Wheel Fairing Bracket Spacers to stiffen up the wheel fairing attachment to the main gear. The planearound product is well made, fit fine, and really does stiffen up the wheel fairing bracket attachment. > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG > > Results: No discernible change in landing roll out behavior. I still get about the same shudder on roll out. Perhaps the onset speed has been raised a small number of knots as a result of balancing and adding the brackets, but I'm not sure about that. > > I'm not sure what else to try. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > RV-10 N31TD -- 340 hrs > > > > >


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    Time: 11:45:15 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance
    Carl, I worried quite a bit about that too then just decided to follow the herd. Seems like a lot of people use the tie down point and some have indicated that Vans approves. I hope that's the case. I should add that I do all the wheel removal pre-work while it's on the ground, I jack it, remove the wheel, then use wood blocks under the axle to lower it down on to. Thanks, Bill On 8/18/2012 1:44 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > Bill, > > I did something similar but I use a padded block on top. The padded block > is just a 2x6 covered in scrap insulation material. The block is held in > place by a pipe flange that has a 1/4" thick piece of scrap aluminum so that > the jack does not work its way through the wood block. The flange also > allows the block to swivel on the jack, aligning the block with the wing > tapper, but the flange rig prevents the block from slipping off the jack. I > position the center of the block long ways under the wing spar. My thought > on this was to spread the load over a larger area. I was also concerned of > jacking up the wing using a bolt in the tie down as either a slip off the > bolt or the tie down screw block not holding would cause significant damage. > I may just be paranoid on this aspect - but I'm happy with how this works. > > Carl >


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    Time: 12:10:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance
    From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net>
    Nice mod Carl, I truly appreciate both your and Bill's postings as they are quite helpful. Thanks, Marcus do not archive On Aug 18, 2012, at 1:44 PM, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote: Bill, I did something similar but I use a padded block on top. The padded block is just a 2x6 covered in scrap insulation material. The block is held in place by a pipe flange that has a 1/4" thick piece of scrap aluminum so that the jack does not work its way through the wood block. The flange also allows the block to swivel on the jack, aligning the block with the wing tapper, but the flange rig prevents the block from slipping off the jack. I position the center of the block long ways under the wing spar. My thought on this was to spread the load over a larger area. I was also concerned of jacking up the wing using a bolt in the tie down as either a slip off the bolt or the tie down screw block not holding would cause significant damage. I may just be paranoid on this aspect - but I'm happy with how this works. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: RV10-List: Jacking up the '10 to do wheel maintenance Having just completed my first condition inspection, I found that I needed jacking solutions so I could pull the wheels. Thanks to all who have previously posted jack solutions. I'm posting my designs to hopefully save others some time. The key things for me; it had to be reliable, low cost to fabricate, and no welding. Main gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c ategory=0&log=154391&row=2 Nose gear: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c ategory=0&log=154392&row=1 Bill "back to traveling again" Watson <Wing jack #1.jpg><Wing jack #2.jpg>


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    Time: 05:00:03 PM PST US
    From: "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing
    I wonder if any of the after market guys are interested in making up some stiffeners; either wooden or aluminum triangle shaped and milled to fit on the round tapered gear leg? Roger "mine shudders, too" Standley ----- Original Message ----- From: Seano<mailto:sean@braunandco.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Shudder/shimmy on landing <sean@braunandco.com<mailto:sean@braunandco.com>> Tim, I fiberglassed oak stiffeners on the back of my gear legs. They fit inside the fairing and are basically triangle shaped and milled to fit on the round tapered gear leg. They have really helped with the shimmy. Mine started around 30 kias. If I'm really light and by myself I feel a little shimmy but much less than ever before the stiffeners. If I have any passengers with me or cargo I have no shimmy at all with the stiffeners. Before it would shimmy in any configuration. You can try what I did an that was using strapping tape first to try then out. After it worked I prosealed the woo to the gear leg then glasses them in using a spiral technique with 3" glass tape. Good luck I might be delivering a CJ to Manassas at the end of the month. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:35, Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net<mailto:TimRVator@comcast.net>> wrote: <TimRVator@comcast.net<mailto:TimRVator@comcast.net>> > > Like many RV-10s (apparently), mine shudders during the landing rollout. Mine starts when decelerating through 35-40 knots (or so) on landing. The speed range at which the shudder occurs is only a small number of knots - less than 5 knot range I think, so the shudder phase stops pretty quickly during deceleration. Hard braking may make the shudder more intense. > > Based on the successful experiences reported by Tim Olson and others, I bought the Marc Parnes DU42 wheel balancer (http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42<http ://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42>), and used that to balance all my wheels. The DU42 is very nice piece of equipment -- surprisingly sensitive. > > http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42<http: //www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG<https://dl.dropbox.c om/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG> > > It took a significant amount of weight to balance the wheels (several 1/4oz weights on each wheel). From what I've read, others have had this same experience. > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/TireWts.JPG<https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93 114308/TireWts.JPG> > > I also installed the planearound.com Wheel Fairing Bracket Spacers to stiffen up the wheel fairing attachment to the main gear. The planearound product is well made, fit fine, and really does stiffen up the wheel fairing bracket attachment. > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG<https://dl.dropbox.com /u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG> > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG<https://dl.dro pbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG> > > Results: No discernible change in landing roll out behavior. I still get about the same shudder on roll out. Perhaps the onset speed has been raised a small number of knots as a result of balancing and adding the brackets, but I'm not sure about that. > > I'm not sure what else to try. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > RV-10 N31TD -- 340 hrs > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List<http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?RV10-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 05:08:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing
    From: Steve T <aircraftspecialty@gmail.com>
    How many people would be interested in this? I'm willing to do it if enough people would be interested. To those that have done it....would aluminum or wood work better? How long o f a piece are we talking about? Email me at steve@aircraftspecialty.com Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2012, at 16:58, "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com> wrote: > I wonder if any of the after market guys are interested in making up some stiffeners; either wooden or aluminum triangle shaped and milled to fit on t he round tapered gear leg? > > Roger "mine shudders, too" Standley > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Seano > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Shudder/shimmy on landing > > > Tim, > > I fiberglassed oak stiffeners on the back of my gear legs. They fit inside the fairing and are basically triangle shaped and milled to fit on the roun d tapered gear leg. They have really helped with the shimmy. Mine started ar ound 30 kias. > If I'm really light and by myself I feel a little shimmy but much less tha n ever before the stiffeners. If I have any passengers with me or cargo I ha ve no shimmy at all with the stiffeners. Before it would shimmy in any confi guration. > You can try what I did an that was using strapping tape first to try then o ut. After it worked I prosealed the woo to the gear leg then glasses them in using a spiral technique with 3" glass tape. > > Good luck > I might be delivering a CJ to Manassas at the end of the month. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:35, Tim Lewis <TimRVator@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > Like many RV-10s (apparently), mine shudders during the landing rollout. Mine starts when decelerating through 35-40 knots (or so) on landing. Th e speed range at which the shudder occurs is only a small number of knots - l ess than 5 knot range I think, so the shudder phase stops pretty quickly dur ing deceleration. Hard braking may make the shudder more intense. > > > > Based on the successful experiences reported by Tim Olson and others, I bought the Marc Parnes DU42 wheel balancer (http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducat i_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42), and used that to balance all my wheel s. The DU42 is very nice piece of equipment -- surprisingly sensitive. > > > > http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42 > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG > > > > It took a significant amount of weight to balance the wheels (several 1/ 4oz weights on each wheel). =46rom what I've read, others have had this sam e experience. > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/TireWts.JPG > > > > I also installed the planearound.com Wheel Fairing Bracket Spacers to stiffen up the wheel fairing attachment to the main gear. The planearound p roduct is well made, fit fine, and really does stiffen up the wheel fairing b racket attachment. > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG > > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG > > > > Results: No discernible change in landing roll out behavior. I still g et about the same shudder on roll out. Perhaps the onset speed has been rai sed a small number of knots as a result of balancing and adding the brackets , but I'm not sure about that. > > > > I'm not sure what else to try. > > > > Tim > > > > -- > > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > > RV-10 N31TD -- 340 hrs > > > > > > > > > > nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and title=http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV10-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http ://www.matronicp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href= "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics. com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.m atronics.com/c================ > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 06:20:09 PM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Trip out West
    I'm going to be flying (big aluminum tube) to Prescott, AZ on Wednesday morning, then flying back (little cessna spam can) from there to Birmingham. Is anybody in the Prescott, AZ area or Dallas, TX area? Any recommendations for fuel stops and/or routes that I should follow? Any projects that I could take a look at? Thanks in advance. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694


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    Time: 07:02:34 PM PST US
    From: BELTEDAIR@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Shudder/shimmy on landing
    Another way would be to fit an aluminum tube around the gear, form it into a streamline shape inside the fairing and filling it with epoxy, we did this to our 6 and it has worked miracles, we did this with weight off of the gear. Jess In a message dated 8/18/2012 5:00:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com writes: I wonder if any of the after market guys are interested in making up some stiffeners; either wooden or aluminum triangle shaped and milled to fit on the round tapered gear leg? Roger "mine shudders, too" Standley ----- Original Message ----- From: _Seano_ (mailto:sean@braunandco.com) Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Shudder/shimmy on landing (mailto:sean@braunandco.com) > Tim, I fiberglassed oak stiffeners on the back of my gear legs. They fit inside the fairing and are basically triangle shaped and milled to fit on the round tapered gear leg. They have really helped with the shimmy. Mine started around 30 kias. If I'm really light and by myself I feel a little shimmy but much less than ever before the stiffeners. If I have any passengers with me or cargo I have no shimmy at all with the stiffeners. Before it would shimmy in any configuration. You can try what I did an that was using strapping tape first to try then out. After it worked I prosealed the woo to the gear leg then glasses them in using a spiral technique with 3" glass tape. Good luck I might be delivering a CJ to Manassas at the end of the month. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:35, Tim Lewis <_TimRVator@comcast.net_ (mailto:TimRVator@comcast.net) > wrote: (mailto:TimRVator@comcast.net) > > > Like many RV-10s (apparently), mine shudders during the landing rollout. Mine starts when decelerating through 35-40 knots (or so) on landing. The speed range at which the shudder occurs is only a small number of knots - less than 5 knot range I think, so the shudder phase stops pretty quickly during deceleration. Hard braking may make the shudder more intense. > > Based on the successful experiences reported by Tim Olson and others, I bought the Marc Parnes DU42 wheel balancer (_http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42_ (http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42) ), and used that to balance all my wheels. The DU42 is very nice piece of equipment -- surprisingly sensitive. > > _http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42_ (http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm#DU42) > _https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG_ (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/ParnesOnStands.JPG) > > It took a significant amount of weight to balance the wheels (several 1/4oz weights on each wheel). From what I've read, others have had this same experience. > _https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/TireWts.JPG_ (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/TireWts.JPG) > > I also installed the planearound.com Wheel Fairing Bracket Spacers to stiffen up the wheel fairing attachment to the main gear. The planearound product is well made, fit fine, and really does stiffen up the wheel fairing bracket attachment. > _https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG_ (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAround1.JPG) > _https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG_ (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93114308/PlaneAroundInstalled.JPG) > > Results: No discernible change in landing roll out behavior. I still get about the same shudder on roll out. Perhaps the onset speed has been raised a small number of knots as a result of balancing and adding the brackets, but I'm not sure about that. > > I'm not sure what else to try. > > Tim > > -- > Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) > RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold > RV-10 N31TD -- 340 hrs > > > > > nbsp; Navigator Photoshare, and title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronicp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)


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    Time: 08:13:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trip out West
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Well, I'll presume that you are changing planes in Phoenix to some small aircraft to fly to Prescott. Not that it matters. Bell DeRouchey and John Ackerman are in Prescott, may be others. Both have been flying for sometime. As for fuel stops, I'll assume you are starting full. On southern route, first cheap spot is Lordsburg NM at 5.15 a gal. In the past I have used PEQ, Pecos, as a fuel and overnight stop. If you elect to stay north, St Johns is cheapest in AZ. BGD in TX panhandle is good overnight stop and usually cheap fuel with courtesy car available. Altus OK isn't too bad for overnight, IIRC had to get ride from FBO to motel and back. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: > > I'm going to be flying (big aluminum tube) to Prescott, AZ on Wednesday morning, then flying back (little cessna spam can) from there to Birmingham. Is anybody in the Prescott, AZ area or Dallas, TX area? Any recommendations for fuel stops and/or routes that I should follow? Any projects that I could take a look at? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > >


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    Time: 11:01:36 PM PST US
    From: <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Battery
    I need to order a batter for my RV-10 but don't remember the no. It's the Oddessy PC960 or something like that as I recall. Can anyone give the correct battery no.? Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 11:18:22 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Battery
    If it's an Odyssey and not the stock Concord, then the "small" one is a PC680, the "big" one is a PC925--unless like me you did the installation backwards and need the terminals reversed, then it's a PC925L. West Coast Batteries has a great web site, great service, and better prices than Spruce: http://www.odysseybatteries.com Might be worth a look! Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:00 PM, <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: > > I need to order a batter for my RV-10 but don't remember the no. It's the Oddessy PC960 or something like that as I recall. Can anyone give the correct battery no.? > Albert Gardner > N991RV > Yuma, AZ > >




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