RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/02/12


Total Messages Posted: 31



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     1. 02:41 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Patrick Pulis)
     2. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Carlos Trigo)
     3. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Geoff Combs)
     4. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Werner Schneider)
     5. 06:44 AM - Re: Parking brake alternative - now including towbars (johngoodman)
     6. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fiberglass Overhead Console (Carl Froehlich)
     7. 07:16 AM - Question for the fiberglass mavens (Les Kearney)
     8. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Carlos Trigo)
     9. 07:39 AM - Re: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation (Carlos Trigo)
    10. 07:45 AM - Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Strasnuts)
    11. 07:53 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Carlos Trigo)
    12. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Tim Olson)
    13. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Seano)
    14. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Geoff Combs)
    15. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation (Carl Froehlich)
    16. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Phil Perry)
    17. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Tim Olson)
    18. 10:59 AM - Re: Parking brake alternative - now including towbars (Bob Turner)
    19. 11:08 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Phillip Perry)
    20. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Jason Wodack)
    21. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Tim Olson)
    22. 11:44 AM - Fairing screws (Jay Rowe)
    23. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (James Dearborn)
    24. 11:54 AM - Re: Fairing screws (Neal George)
    25. 12:00 PM - Re: Fairing screws (Richard McBride)
    26. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Seano)
    27. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Jeff Carpenter)
    28. 02:43 PM - Re: Parking brake alternative - now including towbars (rv10flyer)
    29. 03:09 PM - Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console (Lenny Iszak)
    30. 04:14 PM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation (Bill Watson)
    31. 06:51 PM - Re: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation (dmaib@me.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:41:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Eric, I had no issues down he back, it's the front that's giving me grief. I'll need to build up he front with a small base in order to lower the vents away from the overhead and the cabin top on order for the vents to clear the cabin top. I'll get there, however progress is slow. Warm regards Patrick On 02/10/2012, at 5:37 AM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote: > > Patrick, I dug through the hanger and the garage and do not have the 'instructions' for the overhead. You aren't missing much though by way of guidance from them though. On my installation I had no issue with the vent clearance. I tried to attach a close up picture of my vent so you could compare. Were I really had trouble was the joggle on the canopy cover over the back seats. Not even close is an understatement. Not only was it not in the ballpark, but we were playing different sports. I had to do remove the sides for about 8 inches forward and aft of the joggle and reshape it all. Minor work in the grand scheme of things. I did not however have an issue with clearance. With the vents installed there is no restriction of movement and with about 3/4" between the vent and the canopy I get plenty of airflow. Never had the vents fully open in cruise. Getting a whole lot of air out of them. Feel free to PM me if there are any specifics I can try to help you with. > > Eric > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384406#384406 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_vent1_364.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:37:01 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Guys Can you tell someone that doesn=92t know anything about this overhead console, where does the fresh air to these vents come from? Thanks Carlos > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 10:41 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au> > > Eric, I had no issues down he back, it's the front that's giving me grief. > > I'll need to build up he front with a small base in order to lower the vents away from > the overhead and the cabin top on order for the vents to clear the cabin top. > > I'll get there, however progress is slow. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 02/10/2012, at 5:37 AM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > Patrick, I dug through the hanger and the garage and do not have the > 'instructions' for the overhead. You aren't missing much though by way of guidance > from them though. On my installation I had no issue with the vent clearance. I tried > to attach a close up picture of my vent so you could compare. Were I really had > trouble was the joggle on the canopy cover over the back seats. Not even close is > an understatement. Not only was it not in the ballpark, but we were playing different > sports. I had to do remove the sides for about 8 inches forward and aft of the joggle > and reshape it all. Minor work in the grand scheme of things. I did not however > have an issue with clearance. With the vents installed there is no restriction of > movement and with about 3/4" between the vent and the canopy I get plenty of > airflow. Never had the vents fully open in cruise. Getting a whole lot of air out of > them. Feel free to PM me if there are any specifics I can try to help you with. > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384406#384406 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_vent1_364.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:02:30 AM PST US
    From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Carlos here are some pictures that might help. Just put a NACA scoop as in the photo 2" scat tubing from the NACA to the bulk head fittings as in the pictures. Hope this helps Geoff Combs _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:36 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console Guys Can you tell someone that doesn=92t know anything about this overhead console, where does the fresh air to these vents come from? Thanks Carlos > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 10:41 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au> > > Eric, I had no issues down he back, it's the front that's giving me grief. > > I'll need to build up he front with a small base in order to lower the vents away from > the overhead and the cabin top on order for the vents to clear the cabin top. > > I'll get there, however progress is slow. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 02/10/2012, at 5:37 AM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > Patrick, I dug through the hanger and the garage and do not have the > 'instructions' for the overhead. You aren't missing much though by way of guidance > from them though. On my installation I had no issue with the vent clearance. I tried > to attach a close up picture of my vent so you could compare. Were I really had > trouble was the joggle on the canopy cover over the back seats. Not even close is > an understatement. Not only was it not in the ballpark, but we were playing different > sports. I had to do remove the sides for about 8 inches forward and aft of the joggle > and reshape it all. Minor work in the grand scheme of things. I did not however > have an issue with clearance. With the vents installed there is no restriction of > movement and with about 3/4" between the vent and the canopy I get plenty of > airflow. Never had the vents fully open in cruise. Getting a whole lot of air out of > them. Feel free to PM me if there are any specifics I can try to help you with. > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384406#384406 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_vent1_364.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > RV10-List Email Forum - > browse > Un/Subscription, > FAQ, > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > ========== > bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > Forums! > > > > ========== > bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - > > bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== >


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    Time: 06:06:08 AM PST US
    From: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Carlos, there are several ideas around however at the end it is always the need to create an outside air opening going into that overhead console, that could be an NACA inlet on the top (do not forget to care for the water entering it or you have a shower ;) or some other opening bringing via a duct some fresh air to that console. For Iberia you could look into an aircon as well instead? Cheers Werner On 02.10.2012 14:35, Carlos Trigo wrote: > Guys > > Can you tell someone that doesnt know anything about this overhead > console, where does the fresh air to these vents come from? > > Thanks > > Carlos > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > >> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis > >> Sent: tera-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 10:41 > >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > >> > > >> > >> Eric, I had no issues down he back, it's the front that's giving me grief. > >> > >> I'll need to build up he front with a small base in order to lower the > vents away from > >> the overhead and the cabin top on order for the vents to clear the > cabin top. > >> > >> I'll get there, however progress is slow. > >> > >> Warm regards > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> On 02/10/2012, at 5:37 AM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Patrick, I dug through the hanger and the garage and do not have the > >> 'instructions' for the overhead. You aren't missing much though by way > of guidance > >> from them though. On my installation I had no issue with the vent > clearance. I tried > >> to attach a close up picture of my vent so you could compare. Were I > really had > >> trouble was the joggle on the canopy cover over the back seats. Not > even close is > >> an understatement. Not only was it not in the ballpark, but we were > playing different > >> sports. I had to do remove the sides for about 8 inches forward and > aft of the joggle > >> and reshape it all. Minor work in the grand scheme of things. I did > not however > >> have an issue with clearance. With the vents installed there is no > restriction of > >> movement and with about 3/4" between the vent and the canopy I get > plenty of > >> airflow. Never had the vents fully open in cruise. Getting a whole lot > of air out of > >> them. Feel free to PM me if there are any specifics I can try to help > you with. > >> > > >> > Eric > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Read this topic online here: > >> > > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384406#384406 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Attachments: > >> > > >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_vent1_364.jpg > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ========== > >> RV10-List Email Forum - > >> browse > >> Un/Subscription, > >> FAQ, > >> > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> > >> ========== > >> bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > >> Forums! > >> > >> > >> > >> ========== > >> bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - > >> > >> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> ========== > >> > > * > > > * >


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    Time: 06:44:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parking brake alternative - now including towbars
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    I welded two small tabs on the tips, as described by Bob. It works fine. I move the stick to the side, jam the collapsed tow bar against the bottom cushion, and bungee the stick to the tow bar. It's been suggested to me that I slip it over the stick and jam the extended tow bar against the back cushion. the seat belt would definitely make it more secure. The only doubt I have is the tow bar pushing the brake pedals enough to "slip through". Also, locked brakes would complicate things if the FBO needed to move your plane. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384461#384461


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    Time: 07:08:13 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fiberglass Overhead Console
    No one asked, but. I started to fit up an overhead console in my plane but then decided against it. My concern was head clearance. With 47 hours now on the plane (most on 90+ degree days), I find the ventilation provided by the stock Van's vents works well. I did make two homebrew LED flexible lights, using the brace top bracket screws to mount. Total cost was less than $10. Carl


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    Time: 07:16:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Question for the fiberglass mavens
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Hi I am finishing my cowl (yeah right!) and am wondering how to install some rivets so that they won't fail or crack paint. I want to install Skybolt CamLoc flanges. These flanges use -3 countersunk rivets. My cowl is carbon fiber with gel coat. My plan is to embed the flanges, after roughening up with scotch rite, in a bed of flox. I also plan roughen up the gel coat and put a later of glass over the line of rivet heads. Is the above a reasonable approach or is there a better way? Should I remove all the gel coat before glassing the rivet line. The carbon fiber is not all that thick so I don't want the rivets to pull through. Many thanks Les #40-643 Now looking at the freight train at the end of a long dark tunnel


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    Time: 07:27:02 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Thanks Geoff Indeed a picture (several pictures is even better) is worth a million words.... They sure helped. Carlos _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Combs Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 14:01 Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console Carlos here are some pictures that might help. Just put a NACA scoop as in the photo 2" scat tubing from the NACA to the bulk head fittings as in the pictures. Hope this helps Geoff Combs _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:36 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console Guys Can you tell someone that doesn=92t know anything about this overhead console, where does the fresh air to these vents come from? Thanks Carlos > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 10:41 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au> > > Eric, I had no issues down he back, it's the front that's giving me grief. > > I'll need to build up he front with a small base in order to lower the vents away from > the overhead and the cabin top on order for the vents to clear the cabin top. > > I'll get there, however progress is slow. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 02/10/2012, at 5:37 AM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote: > > > > > Patrick, I dug through the hanger and the garage and do not have the > 'instructions' for the overhead. You aren't missing much though by way of guidance > from them though. On my installation I had no issue with the vent clearance. I tried > to attach a close up picture of my vent so you could compare. Were I really had > trouble was the joggle on the canopy cover over the back seats. Not even close is > an understatement. Not only was it not in the ballpark, but we were playing different > sports. I had to do remove the sides for about 8 inches forward and aft of the joggle > and reshape it all. Minor work in the grand scheme of things. I did not however > have an issue with clearance. With the vents installed there is no restriction of > movement and with about 3/4" between the vent and the canopy I get plenty of > airflow. Never had the vents fully open in cruise. Getting a whole lot of air out of > them. Feel free to PM me if there are any specifics I can try to help you with. > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384406#384406 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_vent1_364.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > RV10-List Email Forum - > browse > Un/Subscription, > FAQ, > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > ========== > bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > Forums! > > > > ========== > bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - > > bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 07:39:59 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: RE: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation
    Carl Now that you mentioned the stock Van=92s ventilation, I was trying to understand it in the manual, but I can only find (in page 50-3), the installation instruction to mount the NACA scoop on the inside of the fuselage hole, and nothing else. Page 4 of section 50 is =93intentionally left blank=94 and there is no page 5. Are the vents directly mounted to the downwind end of the scoops? And by the way, did everybody use the plastic vents or did you exchange those by the high dollar aluminium vents? Carlos _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 15:07 Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fiberglass Overhead Console No one asked, but=85 I started to fit up an overhead console in my plane but then decided against it. My concern was head clearance. With 47 hours now on the plane (most on 90+ degree days), I find the ventilation provided by the stock Van=92s vents works well. I did make two homebrew LED flexible lights, using the brace top bracket screws to mount. Total cost was less than $10. Carl


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    Time: 07:45:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Carlos, I have 260 hours with Aerosport's overhead console. It is one of the few must have's in my opinion. Really nice haveing multiple areas to adjust air instead of one blasting your left kneecap. -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384469#384469 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/interior_sm4_962.jpg


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    Time: 07:53:36 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    That=92s right Werner I will consider the aircon option, but I need to know prices and weights...... Carlos > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Werner Schneider > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 14:05 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > > > Carlos, > > there are several ideas around however at the end it is always the need > to create an outside air opening going into that overhead console, that > could be an NACA inlet on the top (do not forget to care for the water > entering it or you have a shower ;) or some other opening bringing via a > duct some fresh air to that console. > > For Iberia you could look into an aircon as well instead? > > Cheers > > Werner > > On 02.10.2012 14:35, Carlos Trigo wrote: > > Guys > > > > Can you tell someone that doesn=92t know anything about this overhead > > console, where does the fresh air to these vents come from? > > > > Thanks > > > > Carlos > >


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    Time: 08:08:53 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Sure Sean, I wish I had the console, but you've got to admit it's kind of nice having that vent on the side...you can blast the air right up one leg of your shorts, and then that jungle air comes flowing right out the other leg hole. What a relief in summer! I can't let the wife do that... the whistling noise is at the wrong freq. for my ANR headsets. :) (sorry, couldn't resist) Tim do not archive On 10/2/2012 9:45 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > > Carlos, > > I have 260 hours with Aerosport's overhead console. It is one of the > few must have's in my opinion. Really nice haveing multiple areas to > adjust air instead of one blasting your left kneecap. > > -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying > >


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    Time: 08:22:42 AM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Touche! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:08 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > > Sure Sean, I wish I had the console, but you've got to admit > it's kind of nice having that vent on the side...you can > blast the air right up one leg of your shorts, and then > that jungle air comes flowing right out the other leg hole. > What a relief in summer! I can't let the wife do that... > the whistling noise is at the wrong freq. for my ANR > headsets. :) (sorry, couldn't resist) > > Tim > do not archive > > On 10/2/2012 9:45 AM, Strasnuts wrote: >> >> Carlos, >> >> I have 260 hours with Aerosport's overhead console. It is one of the >> few must have's in my opinion. Really nice haveing multiple areas to >> adjust air instead of one blasting your left kneecap. >> >> -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 08:31:24 AM PST US
    From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Tim that made me LOL. Good reply Geoff Combs -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console Sure Sean, I wish I had the console, but you've got to admit it's kind of nice having that vent on the side...you can blast the air right up one leg of your shorts, and then that jungle air comes flowing right out the other leg hole. What a relief in summer! I can't let the wife do that... the whistling noise is at the wrong freq. for my ANR headsets. :) (sorry, couldn't resist) Tim do not archive On 10/2/2012 9:45 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > > Carlos, > > I have 260 hours with Aerosport's overhead console. It is one of the > few must have's in my opinion. Really nice haveing multiple areas to > adjust air instead of one blasting your left kneecap. > > -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying > >


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    Time: 09:13:36 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: RE: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation
    Yes, the vents mount directly on the NACA scoops. Four #8 screws with a washer under the head and nut work well. I just used the plastic vents, thinking that if I have spare cash in the future I could always buy the nice (but overpriced) aluminum ones from Van=92s. I have the same plastic vents in my 8A for 10 years and never found reason to change them. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: RV10-List: RE: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation Carl Now that you mentioned the stock Van=92s ventilation, I was trying to understand it in the manual, but I can only find (in page 50-3), the installation instruction to mount the NACA scoop on the inside of the fuselage hole, and nothing else. Page 4 of section 50 is =93intentionally left blank=94 and there is no page 5. Are the vents directly mounted to the downwind end of the scoops? And by the way, did everybody use the plastic vents or did you exchange those by the high dollar aluminium vents? Carlos _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 15:07 Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fiberglass Overhead Console No one asked, but=85 I started to fit up an overhead console in my plane but then decided against it. My concern was head clearance. With 47 hours now on the plane (most on 90+ degree days), I find the ventilation provided by the stock Van=92s vents works well. I did make two homebrew LED flexible lights, using the brace top bracket screws to mount. Total cost was less than $10. Carl href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c


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    Time: 09:34:54 AM PST US
    From: Phil Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    Sounds like you need to have another kid, Tim. That'll shift the frequency a couple of octaves lower and it should get caught in the headset with the engine noise. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > > Sure Sean, I wish I had the console, but you've got to admit > it's kind of nice having that vent on the side...you can > blast the air right up one leg of your shorts, and then > that jungle air comes flowing right out the other leg hole. > What a relief in summer! I can't let the wife do that... > the whistling noise is at the wrong freq. for my ANR > headsets. :) (sorry, couldn't resist) > > Tim > do not archive > > On 10/2/2012 9:45 AM, Strasnuts wrote: >> >> Carlos, >> >> I have 260 hours with Aerosport's overhead console. It is one of the >> few must have's in my opinion. Really nice haveing multiple areas to >> adjust air instead of one blasting your left kneecap. >> >> -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 10:52:47 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    I never get a chance to use these acronyms, but... ROTFLMAO! do NOT archive On 10/2/2012 11:31 AM, Phil Perry wrote: > > Sounds like you need to have another kid, Tim. That'll shift the > frequency a couple of octaves lower and it should get caught in the > headset with the engine noise. > > Sent from my iPhone >


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    Time: 10:59:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parking brake alternative - now including towbars
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    If you extend the handle and go up to the seat back you'll get a better angle on the brake pedals, making it less likely they'll slip up and over. I only would use this long enough to get the wheels chocked. Then I'd go back to the rudder bar/gust lock, where it cannot easily slip out. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384485#384485


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    Time: 11:08:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    I was driving to lunch a little earlier and was telling a buddy of mine the scenario while we were driving. I had tears in my eyes and could hardly see the road. I'm surprised no one has gotten offended yet. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > I never get a chance to use these acronyms, but... > ROTFLMAO! > > do NOT archive > > > On 10/2/2012 11:31 AM, Phil Perry wrote: > >> >> Sounds like you need to have another kid, Tim. That'll shift the >> frequency a couple of octaves lower and it should get caught in the >> headset with the engine noise. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > >


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    Time: 11:17:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    From: Jason Wodack <psychobob96@gmail.com>
    Oh, is it that time? I'm offended and appalled. Shocked and amazed. Such baudy low brow locker room humor should have no place on this list You may all now return to your various for of laughing(I will too) On Oct 2, 2012 10:40 PM, "Phillip Perry" <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: > I was driving to lunch a little earlier and was telling a buddy of mine > the scenario while we were driving. I had tears in my eyes and could > hardly see the road. > > I'm surprised no one has gotten offended yet. > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > >> >> I never get a chance to use these acronyms, but... >> ROTFLMAO! >> >> do NOT archive >> >> >> >> On 10/2/2012 11:31 AM, Phil Perry wrote: >> >>> >>> Sounds like you need to have another kid, Tim. That'll shift the >>> frequency a couple of octaves lower and it should get caught in the >>> headset with the engine noise. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >> ====**==============================**= >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**Navigator?RV10-List >> ====**==============================**= >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ====**==============================**= >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/**contribution >> ====**==============================**= >> >> >> >> > * > > * > >


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    Time: 11:19:58 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    I can't claim spontaneity, because I first said that on Saturday when Andrea and I took another couple out for a flight for dinner. We were talking about getting ventilation and the subject came up and it just kind of came out. They got a kick out of it anyway. I've always thought that mamy of the best jokes can have the chance of offending at least someone, but at the same time, I know there's a few out there that enjoyed it. ;) FWIW, I forwarded on some replies to Andrea and she says she's been laughing so hard she's been in tears today. :) Tim On 10/2/2012 1:07 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > I was driving to lunch a little earlier and was telling a buddy of mine > the scenario while we were driving. I had tears in my eyes and could > hardly see the road. > > I'm surprised no one has gotten offended yet. > >


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    Time: 11:44:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Fairing screws
    From: Jay Rowe <jfrjr@roadrunner.com>
    At original build I attached most of the fairings using star drive #6 screws versus the Van's supplied phillips drive. Now after 3 annuals I need to order more screws to replace all that I have lost. But for the life of me I can't recall where I ordered those star drive screws originally-I know ot was not from any of the major suppliers. Can anyone help? Jay Rowe Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 11:46:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    From: James Dearborn <jdearborn@mac.com>
    Good Humor is more than just ice cream! WTG Tim. Cheers, Jim On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > > I can't claim spontaneity, because I first said that > on Saturday when Andrea and I took another couple > out for a flight for dinner. We were talking about > getting ventilation and the subject came up and > it just kind of came out. They got a kick out of > it anyway. I've always thought that mamy of > the best jokes can have the chance of offending at > least someone, but at the same time, I know > there's a few out there that enjoyed it. ;) > FWIW, I forwarded on some replies to Andrea > and she says she's been laughing so hard she's > been in tears today. > :) > Tim > > > On 10/2/2012 1:07 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: >> I was driving to lunch a little earlier and was telling a buddy of mine >> the scenario while we were driving. I had tears in my eyes and could >> hardly see the road. >> >> I'm surprised no one has gotten offended yet. >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 11:54:48 AM PST US
    From: Neal George <ngeorge@continentalmotors.aero>
    Subject: Fairing screws
    http://www.microfasteners.com/ perhaps? Neal -----Original Message----- At original build I attached most of the fairings using star drive #6 screws versus the Van's supplied phillips drive. Now after 3 annuals I need to order more screws to replace all that I have lost. But for the life of me I can't recall where I ordered those star drive screws originally-I know ot was not from any of the major suppliers. Can anyone help? Jay Rowe Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 12:00:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fairing screws
    From: Richard McBride <rick.mcbride@me.com>
    Try: www.microfasteners.com Rick McBride On Oct 2, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Jay Rowe <jfrjr@roadrunner.com> wrote: > > > At original build I attached most of the fairings using star drive #6 screws versus the Van's supplied phillips drive. Now after 3 annuals I need to order more screws to replace all that I have lost. But for the life of me I can't recall where I ordered those star drive screws originally-I know ot was not from any of the major suppliers. Can anyone help? Jay Rowe > Sent from my iPhone > > > >


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    Time: 01:03:22 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    and my post on VAF yesterday was edited for "chicken****" All I meant was chickencrap....;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:51 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console > > I never get a chance to use these acronyms, but... > ROTFLMAO! > > do NOT archive > > > On 10/2/2012 11:31 AM, Phil Perry wrote: >> >> Sounds like you need to have another kid, Tim. That'll shift the >> frequency a couple of octaves lower and it should get caught in the >> headset with the engine noise. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > > >


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    Time: 01:31:24 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    I've always felt there are two kinds of humor... clean and funny Do Not Archive On Oct 2, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I can't claim spontaneity, because I first said that > on Saturday when Andrea and I took another couple > out for a flight for dinner. We were talking about > getting ventilation and the subject came up and > it just kind of came out. They got a kick out of > it anyway. I've always thought that mamy of > the best jokes can have the chance of offending at > least someone, but at the same time, I know > there's a few out there that enjoyed it. ;) > FWIW, I forwarded on some replies to Andrea > and she says she's been laughing so hard she's > been in tears today. > :) > Tim > > > On 10/2/2012 1:07 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: >> I was driving to lunch a little earlier and was telling a buddy of >> mine >> the scenario while we were driving. I had tears in my eyes and could >> hardly see the road. >> >> I'm surprised no one has gotten offended yet. >> >> > >


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    Time: 02:43:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Parking brake alternative - now including towbars
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com>
    .063" X 1/2" X 3/4" steel tabs tig welded to end of bogy bar. Fits in slot under pedals. I insert collapsed tow bar in front of lower seat cushion then adjust seat forward. I tighten my seat belt around stick with an article of clothing to cushion. Nothing moves and minimal weight added. -------- Wayne Gillispie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384514#384514


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    Time: 03:09:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Fibreglass Overhead Console
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Oh man, I was on the phone with ATT and while on hold I was reading this thread. By the time she got back, I was laughing so hard I couldn't speak for minutes :) Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384515#384515


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    Time: 04:14:30 PM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation
    I chose not to put in an overhead console but have to admit it was just plain laziness. That top got as much of me as I was willing to give. And Geoff's cool stuff wasn't out there yet. The Van's vents work fine, though on a hot day in NC, more air is more better. I put an additional obstacle in place that makes the air work harder but it still works fine. http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=91400&row=5 If you look at the second picture, you can see the 2 NACA vents peeking out below the panel. On the panel you can see 2 of Stein's eyeball vents (very nice). If you notice, they don't even come close to lining up. Generally speaking the Vans design seems to just have the vents jutting out underneath the panel though YMMV depending on the specific panel you are putting in. What I did to connect the 2 things was to use a piece of SCAT (actually CEET) rolled up to do a 360deg. About 1 foot curled up on itself works quite nicely. Unfortunately, the tubing isn't in place in these photos. This may be useful for any of you going with the Van's vents but wanting to relocate it on the panel. Bill "who likes all the accessories he has and doesn't need any that he doesn't have" Watson On 10/2/2012 12:12 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > Yes, the vents mount directly on the NACA scoops. Four #8 screws with > a washer under the head and nut work well. > > I just used the plastic vents, thinking that if I have spare cash in > the future I could always buy the nice (but overpriced) aluminum ones > from Van's. I have the same plastic vents in my 8A for 10 years and > never found reason to change them. > > Carl > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Carlos Trigo > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:40 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: RE: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock > ventilation > > Carl > > Now that you mentioned the stock Van's ventilation, I was trying to > understand it in the manual, but I can only find (in page 50-3), the > installation instruction to mount the NACA scoop on the inside of the > fuselage hole, and nothing else. > > Page 4 of section 50 is "intentionally left blank" and there is no page 5. > > Are the vents directly mounted to the downwind end of the scoops? > > And by the way, did everybody use the plastic vents or did you > exchange those by the high dollar aluminium vents? > > Carlos > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl > Froehlich > *Sent:* tera-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012 15:07 > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Fiberglass Overhead Console > > No one asked, but... > > I started to fit up an overhead console in my plane but then decided > against it. My concern was head clearance. With 47 hours now on the > plane (most on 90+ degree days), I find the ventilation provided by > the stock Van's vents works well. > > Carl > > * * >


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    Time: 06:51:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fiberglass Overhead Console and stock ventilation
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    I have the overhead console that came with the Flightline AC air conditioning system. I also installed the upgraded Van's aluminum eyeball vents on the NACA vents in the cockpit. Those vents are really nice and you get a huge amount of air in the cabin with those vents. They are even pretty good on the ground with the engine running. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384529#384529




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