---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/18/12: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:07 AM - Re: Throttle Cable length - short (AirMike) 2. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Carl Froehlich) 3. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Linn) 4. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Kelly McMullen) 5. 05:35 PM - Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Bob Turner) 6. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Kelly McMullen) 7. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Pascal) 8. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Seano) 9. 09:10 PM - Re: Re: Throttle Cable length - short (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:59 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short From: "AirMike" Sure enough, my Vans OEM 47.5" throttle cable has chaffed through the metal shroud. This, discovered during my annual condition inspection. The Vans web site still shows the, too short 47.5" cable as the suggestion for the RV10, but it is obvious that this is a poor choice. It chaffed through on the bottom of the engine oil case. The suggested replacement on prior blogs is to get the RV7 cable as a replacement which is 50.5" long. Any other suggestions appreciated. -------- See you OSH '13 Q/B - flying 3 yrs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385618#385618 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:58 AM PST US From: Carl Froehlich Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short I got the next longer cable listed on the Van's web site and it works fine. I don't remember if it was the RV-7 one or not. I sent a note to Van's on the recommended throttle cable being too short - my reply was "a lot of people use it so you must have changed something". Carl On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:04 AM, "AirMike" wrote: > > Sure enough, my Vans OEM 47.5" throttle cable has chaffed through the metal shroud. This, discovered during my annual condition inspection. The Vans web site still shows the, too short 47.5" cable as the suggestion for the RV10, but it is obvious that this is a poor choice. It chaffed through on the bottom of the engine oil case. The suggested replacement on prior blogs is to get the RV7 cable as a replacement which is 50.5" long. Any other suggestions appreciated. > > -------- > See you OSH '13 > Q/B - flying 3 yrs. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385618#385618 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:36 AM PST US From: Linn Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short That's a departure from their normal "We've never heard of that before." reply. It's always 'Kill the messenger". Linn On 10/18/2012 9:29 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > I got the next longer cable listed on the Van's web site and it works fine. I don't remember if it was the RV-7 one or not. > > I sent a note to Van's on the recommended throttle cable being too short - my reply was "a lot of people use it so you must have changed something". > > Carl > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:04 AM, "AirMike" wrote: > >> >> Sure enough, my Vans OEM 47.5" throttle cable has chaffed through the metal shroud. This, discovered during my annual condition inspection. The Vans web site still shows the, too short 47.5" cable as the suggestion for the RV10, but it is obvious that this is a poor choice. It chaffed through on the bottom of the engine oil case. The suggested replacement on prior blogs is to get the RV7 cable as a replacement which is 50.5" long. Any other suggestions appreciated. >> >> -------- >> See you OSH '13 >> Q/B - flying 3 yrs. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385618#385618 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:46 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short Now that you know the range of length needed, you can get a good cable from McFarlane. They make a 4 ft length as stock, or will make exact length you want. You can get stock push pull cable, button release vernier cable, or their new combo push pull/vernier with no release button. http://www.mcfarlane-aviation.com On 10/18/2012 6:04 AM, AirMike wrote: > > Sure enough, my Vans OEM 47.5" throttle cable has chaffed through the metal shroud. This, discovered during my annual condition inspection. The Vans web site still shows the, too short 47.5" cable as the suggestion for the RV10, but it is obvious that this is a poor choice. It chaffed through on the bottom of the engine oil case. The suggested replacement on prior blogs is to get the RV7 cable as a replacement which is 50.5" long. Any other suggestions appreciated. > > -------- > See you OSH '13 > Q/B - flying 3 yrs. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385618#385618 > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:10 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short From: "Bob Turner" "We've never heard of this before" is just wrong. My throttle and mixture cables were both too short (absolutely stock build, standard QB fuselage, Van's supplied engine and mount), and I exchanged numerous emails and photos with Vans and they were perplexed. I cannot tell where the QC problem is, if the cables are varying, or the engines, or what. I was able to make it work by moving the arms (not over center) a bit and by using a more direct routing than shown in the instructions. I have applied RTV and Adel clamps (not tight) in places to try to protect the cable from abrasion. So far (100 hours) so good. But at some point in time I will replace them with longer ones. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385650#385650 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:30 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short I don't know, but I suspect that everything is based on 410RV which has a narrow deck engine. That is why the prop governor as delivered isn't correct, and so on., since all engines Vans sells are wide deck. It shouldn't matter on the throttle or mixture, but stranger things have happened. The other area that can vary is where the piece mounting the cables to the instrument panel is located and how it is oriented. On 10/18/2012 5:34 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > > "We've never heard of this before" is just wrong. > > My throttle and mixture cables were both too short (absolutely stock build, standard QB fuselage, Van's supplied engine and mount), and I exchanged numerous emails and photos with Vans and they were perplexed. I cannot tell where the QC problem is, if the cables are varying, or the engines, or what. > > I was able to make it work by moving the arms (not over center) a bit and by using a more direct routing than shown in the instructions. I have applied RTV and Adel clamps (not tight) in places to try to protect the cable from abrasion. So far (100 hours) so good. But at some point in time I will replace them with longer ones. > > Bob > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385650#385650 > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:14 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short You may be on to something, I have a narrow deck, which might explain why I never had an issue with either the prop nor the throttle cables. I happen to have checked both last week as I go through my condition inspection and they looked fine, the rubber donuts look a little cracked up however but the cables look fine. -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:44 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short I don't know, but I suspect that everything is based on 410RV which has a narrow deck engine. That is why the prop governor as delivered isn't correct, and so on., since all engines Vans sells are wide deck. It shouldn't matter on the throttle or mixture, but stranger things have happened. The other area that can vary is where the piece mounting the cables to the instrument panel is located and how it is oriented. On 10/18/2012 5:34 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > > "We've never heard of this before" is just wrong. > > My throttle and mixture cables were both too short (absolutely stock > build, standard QB fuselage, Van's supplied engine and mount), and I > exchanged numerous emails and photos with Vans and they were perplexed. I > cannot tell where the QC problem is, if the cables are varying, or the > engines, or what. > > I was able to make it work by moving the arms (not over center) a bit and > by using a more direct routing than shown in the instructions. I have > applied RTV and Adel clamps (not tight) in places to try to protect the > cable from abrasion. So far (100 hours) so good. But at some point in time > I will replace them with longer ones. > > Bob > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385650#385650 > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short From: Seano I have a wide deck and stock cables. They work good and were plenty long. 270 hours. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 18, 2012, at 19:05, "Pascal" wrote: > > You may be on to something, I have a narrow deck, which might explain why I never had an issue with either the prop nor the throttle cables. I happen to have checked both last week as I go through my condition inspection and they looked fine, the rubber donuts look a little cracked up however but the cables look fine. > > > -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:44 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short > > > I don't know, but I suspect that everything is based on 410RV which has > a narrow deck engine. That is why the prop governor as delivered isn't > correct, and so on., since all engines Vans sells are wide deck. It > shouldn't matter on the throttle or mixture, but stranger things have > happened. The other area that can vary is where the piece mounting the > cables to the instrument panel is located and how it is oriented. > > On 10/18/2012 5:34 PM, Bob Turner wrote: >> >> "We've never heard of this before" is just wrong. >> >> My throttle and mixture cables were both too short (absolutely stock build, standard QB fuselage, Van's supplied engine and mount), and I exchanged numerous emails and photos with Vans and they were perplexed. I cannot tell where the QC problem is, if the cables are varying, or the engines, or what. >> >> I was able to make it work by moving the arms (not over center) a bit and by using a more direct routing than shown in the instructions. I have applied RTV and Adel clamps (not tight) in places to try to protect the cable from abrasion. So far (100 hours) so good. But at some point in time I will replace them with longer ones. >> >> Bob >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385650#385650 > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:50 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short I'm not sure what deck I have, but I replaced my cables this year and I bought all of the standard Van's lengths for my quadrant install. On my particular install, I certainly wouldn't want to add any length. I did have some chafing from my cable to oil sump, but I consider that to be my fault..it's a close fit and I did nothing to protect the cable. It was just some sheathing wear, nothing that went into the metal shell. But, when I did the reinstall I added a 2" section of rubber hose over the cable, RTV'd in place, and also did a better job on the clamps. Will be hitting 900 hours this weekend. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 10/18/2012 8:27 PM, Seano wrote: > > I have a wide deck and stock cables. They work good and were plenty long. 270 hours. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 18, 2012, at 19:05, "Pascal" wrote: > >> >> You may be on to something, I have a narrow deck, which might explain why I never had an issue with either the prop nor the throttle cables. I happen to have checked both last week as I go through my condition inspection and they looked fine, the rubber donuts look a little cracked up however but the cables look fine. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen >> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:44 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Throttle Cable length - short >> >> >> I don't know, but I suspect that everything is based on 410RV which has >> a narrow deck engine. That is why the prop governor as delivered isn't >> correct, and so on., since all engines Vans sells are wide deck. It >> shouldn't matter on the throttle or mixture, but stranger things have >> happened. The other area that can vary is where the piece mounting the >> cables to the instrument panel is located and how it is oriented. >> >> On 10/18/2012 5:34 PM, Bob Turner wrote: >>> >>> "We've never heard of this before" is just wrong. >>> >>> My throttle and mixture cables were both too short (absolutely stock build, standard QB fuselage, Van's supplied engine and mount), and I exchanged numerous emails and photos with Vans and they were perplexed. I cannot tell where the QC problem is, if the cables are varying, or the engines, or what. >>> >>> I was able to make it work by moving the arms (not over center) a bit and by using a more direct routing than shown in the instructions. I have applied RTV and Adel clamps (not tight) in places to try to protect the cable from abrasion. So far (100 hours) so good. But at some point in time I will replace them with longer ones. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> -------- >>> Bob Turner >>> RV-10 QB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385650#385650 >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.