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Sat 10/20/12


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 08:59 AM - Re: GRT standard probes. (Rene)
     2. 02:01 PM - Re: GRT standard probes. (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 05:37 PM - Re: Fw: RV-10 Oil Cooler Brace CB-1005B (Kelly McMullen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:59:01 AM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: GRT standard probes.
    David, how have the EI probes worked out for you? I have already replaced two of the original probes and over the past 5 hours have lost (or starting to loss) three more. I have ~250 hours on the engine. The EI Probes are a little pricey .. so want to make sure I am not going to have "other" problems. If they last 500 hours, they would be about the same price based on the failure rates of the GRT probes.. Thanks in advance for any advise. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:29 AM Subject: RV10-List: GRT standard probes. I started flying with 6 standard EIS 6000 probes. I have had five failures in 310 hours. I don't know whether it is just a bad batch or what. I have three of their higher quality probes (white taped leads) which were their replacements and they have not failed yet, but they have less than 150 hours on them. The latest failure occurred last Saturday and since I had already ordered a set of EI P-110, I am going to change them all as opposed to changing them individually every 50-100 hours. So far my failures occurred at <200, 210, 250,278,and 310 hours. Temperatures were normally 1375-1420 (as measured by the EIS) and located 2" from the exhaust flange. My previous experience with probes is 2000 hours on Insight GEM 603 with one failure and 530 hours on an EI SU8A with no failures. Has anyone else had any EGT probe difficulties?


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    Time: 02:01:48 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: GRT standard probes.
    I have the EI fast response EGT probes on my Mooney. I'm guessing maybe 2-300 hours on them. Main difficulty is probe wires and the connectors. Have to have good connections, and they are very prone to wire fatigue breaks if not adequately protected from vibration, especially at the connections. Probes themselves have been fine, installed 1.5 inches from exhaust flange..normally 1400-1475 peak temps. On 10/20/2012 8:58 AM, Rene wrote: > > David, how have the EI probes worked out for you? I have already > replaced two of the original probes and over the past 5 hours have > lost (or starting to loss) three more. I have ~250 hours on the > engine. The EI Probes are a little pricey so want to make sure I am > not going to have other problems. If they last 500 hours, they would > be about the same price based on the failure rates of the GRT probes. > > Thanks in advance for any advise. > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:29 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: GRT standard probes. > > I started flying with 6 standard EIS 6000 probes. I have had five > failures in 310 hours. I don't know whether it is just a bad batch or > what. I have three of their higher quality probes (white taped leads) > which were their replacements and they have not failed yet, but they > have less than 150 hours on them. The latest failure occurred last > Saturday and since I had already ordered a set of EI P-110, I am going > to change them all as opposed to changing them individually every > 50-100 hours. So far my failures occurred at <200, 210, 250,278,and > 310 hours. Temperatures were normally 1375-1420 (as measured by the > EIS) and located 2" from the exhaust flange. My previous experience > with probes is 2000 hours on Insight GEM 603 with one failure and 530 > hours on an EI SU8A with no failures. Has anyone else had any EGT > probe difficulties? > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > * * > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 05:37:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: RV-10 Oil Cooler Brace CB-1005B
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Just to follow-up. Gus F. figured out from my pictures that my baffle kit had a CB-705A rear baffle instead of the called for CB-1005A. The parts are almost identical except for about 1/4" higher flange on the 1005A. Van's sent me the correct part and now everything fits like it should. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Lew. These pieces get trimmed off once they are assembled together . > The main problem as manufactured there is insufficient edge distance to > drill for the rivets to hold it together. > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM, <lewgall@charter.net> wrote: > >> Hey Kelly, >> >> I don=92t remember this particular problem, but it reminds me that it is a >> good idea to fit the baffles to the upper cowl first, THEN fit the oil >> cooler ' I think this is more of an issue on the RV-8=92s. >> >> Later, ' Lew >> >> *From:* Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:03 AM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* RV10-List: Fwd: RV-10 Oil Cooler Brace CB-1005B >> >> >> >> I've been waiting two weeks for a response from Van's. Ken Scott >> acknowledged my request and said they would have to "research" it. >> I've not seen this as an issue on other builder's sites. Any one else >> have this problem. I know it is minor, and I can fix it, but would rathe r >> have the parts supplied by Vans actually fit without significant >> modification. >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RV-10 Oil Cooler Brace >> CB-1005B Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:29:48 -0700 From: Kelly McMullen >> mailto:kellym@aviating.com <kellym@aviating.com> To: >> support@vansaircraft.com >> >> >> Gentlemen, >> RV-10 Plans, Engine Baffling page FF2-4 and 5. When I placed the oil >> cooler brace on CB-1005A I found that this item was larger than shown in >> the plans, and stands 1/4" above the CB-1006A flange. The flange between >> the CB-1005A and CB-1006A baffles is 1+5/16" high while the CB-1005B >> brace is 1+7/16" tall. This means it is not possible to align the two, >> and there is insufficient edge distance to drill for rivets to secure >> the oil cooler brace on that edge. I have checked with a couple other >> builders that did not seem to have this issue. >> So it appears that either the CB-1005A or CB-1005B is not correctly >> made. Pictures attached. >> Please advise. >> Thank you, >> >> Kelly McMullen >> RV-10 #40866 >> A&P/IA >> EAA Tech Counselor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> p> >> >> * >> =========== =========== =========== =========== >> * >> >> >




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