RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/25/12


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:12 AM - Engine Mount Slump (Greg McFarlane)
     2. 03:57 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Dave Saylor)
     3. 05:29 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Carl Froehlich)
     4. 06:28 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Bob Leffler)
     5. 06:34 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Phillip Perry)
     6. 06:49 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Tim Olson)
     7. 06:59 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Jay Rowe)
     8. 07:00 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Bob Leffler)
     9. 07:07 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Phillip Perry)
    10. 08:48 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (James McGrew)
    11. 08:49 AM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (James McGrew)
    12. 02:28 PM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Rob Kochman)
    13. 02:44 PM - Re: Engine Mount Slump (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:12:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Engine Mount Slump
    From: "Greg McFarlane" <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
    [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying RV10s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. Cheers from Western Australia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971


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    Time: 03:57:51 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    We set the top cowl 1/8" to 3/16" below the upper edge of the spinner. It drops down just right. Don't worry about the gap changing between the spinner and prop. If you get it right from the start it doesn't change. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying > RV10s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 > hours, typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter > inch at the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the > 0540. Cheers from Western Australia > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 > >


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    Time: 05:29:54 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Engine Mount Slump
    On my 8A I biased the cowl =C2=BC=9D down on the spinner (as in =C2=BC=9D from the spinner being exactly in the center). 10 years and 700 hours later it is still =C2=BC=9D down =93 so no engine slump. On the 10 I did the same but with the James Cowl that translated to the top of the spinner being flush the top of the cowl, and the bottom of the spinner being =C2=BC=9D above =9Cflush=9D to the bottom of the cowl. 58 hours so far and the engine has not moved. I=99ve seen a few long time flying RVs with the spinner proud above the top of the cowl. You may not want to bias the cowl beyond the top of the spinner being flush with the top of the cowl. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:57 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Mount Slump We set the top cowl 1/8" to 3/16" below the upper edge of the spinner. It drops down just right. Don't worry about the gap changing between the spinner and prop. If you get it right from the start it doesn't change. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying RV10s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. Cheers from Western Australia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List MS - k">http://forums.matronics.com e - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:28:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    I set my cowl the same as Dave's a year ago. Mine hasn't dropped yet. Alth ough, I'm not flying yet. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote: We set the top cowl 1/8" to 3/16" below the upper edge of the spinner. It d rops down just right. Don't worry about the gap changing between the spinne r and prop. If you get it right from the start it doesn't change. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wr ote: > > > [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying RV1 0s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, t ypically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. Cheers from Western Australia > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 > > > > > > > > ========== > " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ========== > MS - > k">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > e - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ========


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    Time: 06:34:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    I'm interested in knowing how long the engine hung on the mount before the cowling was fitted; then what the drop results were. Mine has been hanging for nearly a year and I can't imagine getting it to drop too much more - even when it starts operating. Phil On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > I set my cowl the same as Dave's a year ago. Mine hasn't dropped yet. > Although, I'm not flying yet. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Dave Saylor < > dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote: > > We set the top cowl 1/8" to 3/16" below the upper edge of the spinner. It > drops down just right. Don't worry about the gap changing between the > spinner and prop. If you get it right from the start it doesn't change. > > Dave Saylor > 831-750-0284 CL > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>wrote: > >> grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> >> >> [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying >> RV10s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 >> hours, typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter >> inch at the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the >> 0540. Cheers from Western Australia >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> MS - >> k">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> e - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > * > > * > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 06:49:01 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    This isn't a measurement exactly, but I'll tell you I planned for mine to drop based what other non-RV-10 builders were saying at the time, since I was one of the earlier completions. I found that it didn't drop for my RV-10 nearly as much as I expected it to based on what they said. So I'd go with your first reply and maybe do a max of 1/8" or 3/16" if you really want to push it. Chances are you'll end up about right maybe with 1/8" but any more and it may be high forever. Tim On 10/25/2012 8:33 AM, Phillip Perry wrote: > I'm interested in knowing how long the engine hung on the mount before > the cowling was fitted; then what the drop results were. > > Mine has been hanging for nearly a year and I can't imagine getting it > to drop too much more - even when it starts operating. > > Phil


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    Time: 06:59:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: Jay Rowe <jfrjr@roadrunner.com>
    At initial build I fitted the cowling to match the spinner and the engine ha d only been hanging for about a month. Then after two years and 250 hours of flying the drop was about 1/4 inch--fairly easy to correct by placing washe rs (1 thin and 1 thick) on the bottom motor mounts. I had to unbolt twice to get the proper washer thickness in order to have a perfect height. It may b e possible to mathmatically calculate the washer thickness but that would be way above my pay grade. Jay Rowe Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm interested in knowing how long the engine hung on the mount before the cowling was fitted; then what the drop results were. > > Mine has been hanging for nearly a year and I can't imagine getting it to d rop too much more - even when it starts operating. > > Phil > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: >> I set my cowl the same as Dave's a year ago. Mine hasn't dropped yet. A lthough, I'm not flying yet. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.c om> wrote: >> >> We set the top cowl 1/8" to 3/16" below the upper edge of the spinner. I t drops down just right. Don't worry about the gap changing between the spi nner and prop. If you get it right from the start it doesn't change. >> >> Dave Saylor >> 831-750-0284 CL >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: om> >>> >>> [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying R V10s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at t he back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. Chee rs from Western Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> ========== >>> MS - >>> k">http://forums.matronics.com >>> ========== >>> e - >>> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> ========== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 07:00:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Hung the engine 2/5/11. Cowl was fitted four weeks later. So it's been abou t 20 months with no drop. So when you see the hub sitting 1/8" proud at OSH , you'll know why. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: I'm interested in knowing how long the engine hung on the mount before the c owling was fitted; then what the drop results were. Mine has been hanging for nearly a year and I can't imagine getting it to dr op too much more - even when it starts operating. Phil On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > I set my cowl the same as Dave's a year ago. Mine hasn't dropped yet. Al though, I'm not flying yet. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.co m> wrote: > > We set the top cowl 1/8" to 3/16" below the upper edge of the spinner. It drops down just right. Don't worry about the gap changing between the spin ner and prop. If you get it right from the start it doesn't change. > > Dave Saylor > 831-750-0284 CL > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> w rote: m> >> >> [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying RV 10s regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, t ypically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. Cheers from Western Australia >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ========== >> MS - >> k">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> e - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== > > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ========


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    Time: 07:07:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    As long as we see it sitting proud at OSH. On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote: > Hung the engine 2/5/11. Cowl was fitted four weeks later. So it's been > about 20 months with no drop. So when you see the hub sitting 1/8" proud > at OSH, you'll know why. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 25, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm interested in knowing how long the engine hung on the mount before the > cowling was fitted; then what the drop results were. > > Mine has been hanging for nearly a year and I can't imagine getting it to > drop too much more - even when it starts operating. > > Phil >


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    Time: 08:48:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    I set mine up 3/8 inch. At 200 hours spinner is level with the cowl. -Jim N312JE On 10/25/12, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: > > [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying RV10s > regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, > typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at > the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. > Cheers from Western Australia > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 > > -- Sent from my mobile device


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    Time: 08:49:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu>
    Correction 3/16 inch. -Jim On 10/25/12, James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > I set mine up 3/8 inch. At 200 hours spinner is level with the cowl. > > -Jim > N312JE > > On 10/25/12, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: >> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> >> >> [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying >> RV10s >> regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, >> typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch at >> the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. >> Cheers from Western Australia >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > -- Sent from my mobile device


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    Time: 02:28:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    Ours didn't drop any noticeable amount. We used the Lord mounts (the others weren't available), which I've heard results in less dropping, but you'll find plenty of people that have seen a drop with the Lords, so seems difficult to preduct. -Rob On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:48 AM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > Correction 3/16 inch. > > -Jim > > On 10/25/12, James McGrew <jsmcgrew@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > I set mine up 3/8 inch. At 200 hours spinner is level with the cowl. > > > > -Jim > > N312JE > > > > On 10/25/12, Greg McFarlane <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: > >> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com> > >> > >> [Rolling Eyes] Just fitting top cowl, what is the experience of flying > >> RV10s > >> regarding the amount the engine/mounts drop/settle after say 100 hours, > >> typically the smaller 0320 & 0360 in sixes etc drop about quarter inch > at > >> the back of the spinner is this about the same for the 10 with the 0540. > >> Cheers from Western Australia > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385971#385971 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 02:44:04 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Slump
    I'm thinking that the reason some have a little more drop than others, may be that some people hang their engine and have it sitting on there for a while during the build and some get through the cowl fit process quicker. They must move down pretty quickly initially, but not move very much over time after the initial "set". Tim On 10/25/2012 4:28 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > Ours didn't drop any noticeable amount. We used the Lord mounts (the > others weren't available), which I've heard results in less dropping, > but you'll find plenty of people that have seen a drop with the Lords, > so seems difficult to preduct. > > -Rob >




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