---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/02/12: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:39 AM - aileron trim (Rick Lark) 2. 07:47 AM - Re: aileron trim (Kelly McMullen) 3. 07:51 AM - Re: aileron trim (Jesse Saint) 4. 07:59 AM - Re: aileron trim (Kelly McMullen) 5. 07:59 AM - Re: aileron trim (Jae Chang) 6. 07:59 AM - Re: aileron trim (Pascal) 7. 08:16 AM - Re: aileron trim (Kelly McMullen) 8. 08:51 AM - Re: aileron trim (Seano) 9. 09:05 AM - Re: aileron trim (dmaib@me.com) 10. 09:11 AM - Re: aileron trim (Carlos Trigo) 11. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: aileron trim (Kevin Belue) 12. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: aileron trim (Robin Marks) 13. 09:59 AM - Re: Re: aileron trim (Rene Felker) 14. 03:25 PM - Re: aileron trim (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:30 AM PST US From: "Rick Lark" Subject: RV10-List: aileron trim Hi all Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of the left? Thx, Rick Finish & FWF kits enroute #40956 Southampton, Ont. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:30 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim You will have to mirror image the plans........;-) I don't know of any reason, other than roll servo is usually installed in right wing, which shouldn't make much difference. Not visualizing what advantage either wing would have, but have decided to defer getting aileron trim until have flown for awhile to decide if the perceived benefit merits the cost and labor. On 11/2/2012 7:38 AM, Rick Lark wrote: > Hi all > Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is > there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of the > left? > Thx, Rick > Finish & FWF kits enroute > #40956 > Southampton, Ont. > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:06 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim Speaking of which, does anybody have a digital copy of the aileron trim installation drawings? I am needing to make some adjustments on one of them and need to know how it is installed. Thanks and do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Rick Lark wrote: > Hi all > > Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of the left? > Thx, Rick > > Finish & FWF kits enroute > #40956 > Southampton, Ont. > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:34 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim Sent-offlist On 11/2/2012 7:50 AM, Jesse Saint wrote: > Speaking of which, does anybody have a digital copy of the aileron > trim installation drawings? I am needing to make some adjustments on > one of them and need to know how it is installed. > > Thanks and do not archive > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Rick Lark > wrote: > >> Hi all >> Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is >> there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of >> the left? >> Thx, Rick >> Finish & FWF kits enroute >> #40956 >> Southampton, Ont. >> * >> >> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com >> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> * >> > > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:34 AM PST US From: Jae Chang Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim Just my 2c, i use aileron trim on every flight and consider it standard equipment. Otherwise, you will have to constantly apply aileron force (when not on autopilot) to fly wings level as weight varies side to side. Jae do not archive On 11/2/2012 7:47 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > > You will have to mirror image the plans........;-) > I don't know of any reason, other than roll servo is usually installed > in right wing, which shouldn't make much difference. > Not visualizing what advantage either wing would have, but have > decided to defer getting aileron trim until have flown for awhile to > decide if the perceived benefit merits the cost and labor. > > On 11/2/2012 7:38 AM, Rick Lark wrote: >> Hi all >> Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is >> there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of >> the left? >> Thx, Rick >> Finish & FWF kits enroute >> #40956 >> Southampton, Ont. >> * >> >> >> * > -- #40533 RV-10 First flight 10/19/2011 Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:36 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim Depending on how often you fly alone and how far, I have used my trim, but the truth is I dont see a real benefit to it. I use the fuel on the left side first and that usually balances out the plane for me, I have a tab on the rudder, works fine for me. No regrets with not adding a electric rudder trim. My point, You're are right on Kelly. Wait and see if you need it, just as I did with the rudder trim. -----Original Message----- From: Kelly McMullen Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 7:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim You will have to mirror image the plans........;-) I don't know of any reason, other than roll servo is usually installed in right wing, which shouldn't make much difference. Not visualizing what advantage either wing would have, but have decided to defer getting aileron trim until have flown for awhile to decide if the perceived benefit merits the cost and labor. On 11/2/2012 7:38 AM, Rick Lark wrote: > Hi all > Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is there > any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of the left? > Thx, Rick > Finish & FWF kits enroute > #40956 > Southampton, Ont. > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:01 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim That is why I am waiting. I have flown my Mooney for 14 years with similar wing tanks, similar loads with all sorts of fuel imbalance with same pushrod type controls and didn't feel any need for aileron trim. Recognize RV-10 maybe different, with shorter wings, but since it can be installed later, I will wait and see. Usually mods that we have spent money on turn out to be the best, and the rest...who knows.:-P On 11/2/2012 7:58 AM, Jae Chang wrote: > > Just my 2c, i use aileron trim on every flight and consider it > standard equipment. Otherwise, you will have to constantly apply > aileron force (when not on autopilot) to fly wings level as weight > varies side to side. > > Jae > do not archive > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:14 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim I use mine about every other flight. I would install again if starting over. You getting close Kelly? Maybe I'll run down there and see your project this winter when it's cold in SLC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMullen" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim > > That is why I am waiting. I have flown my Mooney for 14 years with similar > wing tanks, similar loads with all sorts of fuel imbalance with same > pushrod type controls and didn't feel any need for aileron trim. Recognize > RV-10 maybe different, with shorter wings, but since it can be installed > later, I will wait and see. > Usually mods that we have spent money on turn out to be the best, and the > rest...who knows.:-P > > On 11/2/2012 7:58 AM, Jae Chang wrote: >> >> Just my 2c, i use aileron trim on every flight and consider it standard >> equipment. Otherwise, you will have to constantly apply aileron force >> (when not on autopilot) to fly wings level as weight varies side to side. >> >> Jae >> do not archive >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:52 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: aileron trim From: "dmaib@me.com" I use my aileron trim on a regular basis and would definitely do it again if I was building another -10. This airplane is more sensitive to lateral imbalance than any other light plane I have flown. I definitely would not install rudder trim if I was building again. I rarely use it. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386556#386556 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:21 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV10-List: aileron trim Kelly Could you please also send it to me. TIA Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: sexta-feira, 2 de Novembro de 2012 14:59 Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim Sent-offlist On 11/2/2012 7:50 AM, Jesse Saint wrote: > Speaking of which, does anybody have a digital copy of the aileron > trim installation drawings? I am needing to make some adjustments on > one of them and need to know how it is installed. > > Thanks and do not archive > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Rick Lark > wrote: > >> Hi all >> Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is >> there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of >> the left? >> Thx, Rick >> Finish & FWF kits enroute >> #40956 >> Southampton, Ont. >> * >> >> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com >> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com >> /contribution >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matron >> ics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> * >> > > * > > > * ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:19:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: aileron trim From: Kevin Belue Wow! That is the exact opposite for my plane. I don't use the aileron trim but need rudder trim all the time.... Kevin Belue RV10 RV6A Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "dmaib@me.com" wrote: > > I use my aileron trim on a regular basis and would definitely do it again if I was building another -10. This airplane is more sensitive to lateral imbalance than any other light plane I have flown. I definitely would not install rudder trim if I was building again. I rarely use it. > > -------- > David Maib > RV-10 #40559 > Transition Trainer > New Smyrna Beach, FL > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386556#386556 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:05 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: aileron trim I love my rudder trim and use it all the time. I did the same to the 8A and once out of paint the rudder trim was inop and I miss it a lot. I will track down the 8A issue shortly and get back to coordinated flight with my feet on the floor. http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/RudderTrim.aspx Keep in mind you are building a superior cross country machine which means long flights. If you only have one ball you might as well center it. :-) Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Belue Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:19 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: aileron trim Wow! That is the exact opposite for my plane. I don't use the aileron trim but need rudder trim all the time.... Kevin Belue RV10 RV6A Sent from my iPhone On Nov 2, 2012, at 11:04 AM, "dmaib@me.com" wrote: > > I use my aileron trim on a regular basis and would definitely do it again if I was building another -10. This airplane is more sensitive to lateral imbalance than any other light plane I have flown. I definitely would not install rudder trim if I was building again. I rarely use it. > > -------- > David Maib > RV-10 #40559 > Transition Trainer > New Smyrna Beach, FL > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386556#386556 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:40 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: aileron trim I use both rudder and aileron trim when hand flying and rudder trim when on AP. If I was building another 10 I would definitely put both in. The aileron trim is much more important when solo..... Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 10:05 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: aileron trim I use my aileron trim on a regular basis and would definitely do it again if I was building another -10. This airplane is more sensitive to lateral imbalance than any other light plane I have flown. I definitely would not install rudder trim if I was building again. I rarely use it. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=386556#386556 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:31 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim I sent, but email bounced. Maybe if you send me a private email direct I can reply to that and attach. On 11/2/2012 9:12 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > > Kelly > > Could you please also send it to me. > > TIA > Carlos > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: sexta-feira, 2 de Novembro de 2012 14:59 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: aileron trim > > > Sent-offlist > On 11/2/2012 7:50 AM, Jesse Saint wrote: >> Speaking of which, does anybody have a digital copy of the aileron >> trim installation drawings? I am needing to make some adjustments on >> one of them and need to know how it is installed. >> >> Thanks and do not archive >> >> Jesse Saint >> Saint Aviation, Inc. >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> C: 352-427-0285 >> F: 815-377-3694 >> >> On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Rick Lark > > wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> Question for those who have installed Vans electric aileron trim, is >>> there any reason the servo can not go in the right wing instead of >>> the left? >>> Thx, Rick >>> Finish & FWF kits enroute >>> #40956 >>> Southampton, Ont. >>> * >>> >>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com >>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com >>> /contribution >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matron >>> ics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> * >>> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ----- No virus found in this message. 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