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Mon 11/12/12


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     0. 12:10 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For?  (Matt Dralle)
     1. 04:42 AM - Flying to NYC (Michael Kraus)
     2. 04:45 AM - Re: Rigging thoughts ()
     3. 05:29 AM - Re: Red Cube FWF install (Rick Lark)
     4. 05:40 AM - Re: Flying to NYC (billz)
     5. 06:34 AM - Re: Re: Flying to NYC (Carl Froehlich)
     6. 09:32 AM - Re: Flying to NYC (Bill Watson)
     7. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Problem with Fuel flow transducer in the tunnel (bob-tcw)
     8. 10:11 AM - Re: Flying to NYC (John Zazulka)
     9. 11:02 AM - Re: Rigging thoughts (Bob Turner)
    10. 11:04 AM - Re: rudder trim RV-10 (Carlos Trigo)
    11. 02:46 PM - Re: rudder trim RV-10 (J. R. (Dick) Dial)
    12. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: Flying to NYC (David Leikam)
    13. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Flying to NYC (Seano)
    14. 06:40 PM - Re: Flying to NYC (Bill Watson)
    15. 10:35 PM - Re: Flying to NYC (Robin Marks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:10:45 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
    Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator


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    Time: 04:42:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Flying to NYC
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    We are planning on flying our RV-10 to New York City next week to visit relatives.... We are staying in Brooklyn Heights. Anyone have any suggestions on where to fly in to, how to get around, and issues we might have with the remnants of Hurricane Sandy? And thoughts/guidance/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you -Mike Kraus Do not archive Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 04:45:07 AM PST US
    From: <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Rigging thoughts
    Hey Carl, Thanks for posting this on rigging. VERY interesting and helpful! I=99m especially interested in how you lowered the inboard side of the aileron. Later, =93 Lew do not archive


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    Time: 05:29:16 AM PST US
    From: "Rick Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
    Subject: Re: Red Cube FWF install
    Excellent Sean, thx. I didn't know ACS sold fire sleeve. I learn things everyday on this list....... Regards, Rick Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Seano To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Red Cube FWF install Rick, I bought mine from Aircraft Spruce. The first link is what I clicked on and then onto the proper size, which I can't currently remember. I would just measure a rough circumference. The second link is a new one for me. I would have ordered this if it was available when I installed mine. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/stratofs.php?clickkey=411 8 http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/gbfireslvft.php?clickkey= 4118 I cut the bolt holes through the firesleeve and pushed it on then stuck the bolts through both. I then connected the fuel lines. As you can see I mounted mine to the engine which the instructions say NOT to do for vibration. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Lark To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:12 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Red Cube FWF install Sean, how did you, or where did you get the fire sleeve to cover the transducer? Thx, Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Seano <sean@braunandco.com> wrote: Myron, Here is a pic of mine. 280 hours with no problems. I fireslleved mine per directions but I didn't follow the statement: Do not attach the transducer directly to the engine...... Here is some notes from the installation manual. Fuel Flow Transducer Notes . NEVER blow through the transducer. Keep the yellow caps on until it is installed. . The fuel flow transducer(s) should be installed in a straight section of your fuel line. (6 straight inches on each side is desirable). . The fuel line should not drop down after exiting the transducer. . The wires MUST NOT come out of the bottom of transducer. Wires pointing up is the best . . When assembling fittings into the 1/4" NPT inlet and outlet ports do not exceed a torque value of 25 ft.-lbs. . Do not use Teflon tape in an aircraft fuel system. Use "Fuel Lube/Ez Turn Lubricant" . The transducer should be mounted down stream of a fuel filter. . Do not attach the transducer directly to the engine to avoid excessive vibration. . Do not mount the transducer near the exhaust systems or other hot engine components. . If the transducer is in the engine compartment, it should be covered in fire sleeve to protect it from excessive heat. . The transducer wires may be trimmed any desired length Possible Transducer Placement Locations: 1. Between the auxiliary electric boost pump and the engines mechanical fuel pump. 2. Between fuel injection servo and the distribution block. 3. Between the Engine driven pump and the Carburetor Note: If your engine is equipped with a fuel return line from the carburetor back to the fuel tank you will need to install two flow transducers. One in the feed line from the fuel pump to the carburetor and one in the return line from the carburetor back to the fuel tank. This applies to certain Continental engines and Rotax 912(ULS) and 914 engines. ----- Original Message ----- From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Red Cube FWF install Anyone be so kind as to post some pix on their firewall forward red cube installation? Thanks in advance. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387382#387382 href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 05:40:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    From: "billz" <billz@roadrunner.com>
    You might look into KHPN (White Plains, NY). Panorama Aviation is good place to park. Give them a call and they can give you the details. The commuter train is not far from the airport and an easy (cheap) way to get into the city. There website is http://www.flypfs.com/# The other option is TEB, but will be more expensive. Enjoy your trip! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387676#387676


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    Time: 06:34:30 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    I used Panorama at White Plains and recommend them. The only problem was taxi for departure and ground told me to "follow the Citation". As these are a dime a dozen at this place I had to ask "which one?". Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of billz Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:41 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying to NYC You might look into KHPN (White Plains, NY). Panorama Aviation is good place to park. Give them a call and they can give you the details. The commuter train is not far from the airport and an easy (cheap) way to get into the city. There website is http://www.flypfs.com/# The other option is TEB, but will be more expensive. Enjoy your trip! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387676#387676


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    Time: 09:32:28 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    I too use Panorama at KHPN. High service level, everything as it should be. I used to live in and around the city and generally settled on KHPN for trips to Queens. I don't know anything about the current post-Sandy conditions but I usually rent a car when doing the boroughs. I would definitely rent now to avoid mass transit outages. We filmed a trip into KHPN via the Hudson River VFR corridor. Ended up looking straight down at the 9/11 memorial. I was looking at it last night and would love to post it but need to figure out how to edit it down a bit. If and when I do, I'll post a link FWIW. Bill Watson On 11/12/2012 7:41 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: > > We are planning on flying our RV-10 to New York City next week to visit relatives.... > > We are staying in Brooklyn Heights. Anyone have any suggestions on where to fly in to, how to get around, and issues we might have with the remnants of Hurricane Sandy? > > And thoughts/guidance/advice would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you > -Mike Kraus > > Do not archive > > Sent from my iPhone > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >


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    Time: 09:47:26 AM PST US
    From: "bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: Problem with Fuel flow transducer in the tunnel
    Bill, I insulated the new line between the electric pump and firewall with standard fire sleeve. The rest of the original lines remain un-insulated. Bob -----Original Message----- From: billz Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:34 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Problem with Fuel flow transducer in the tunnel Bob, Thank you for the excellent analysis. 1. Bob, What did you use for insulation on the fuel lines in the tunnel?? 2. Has anyone used insulation on the heat runs in the tunnel? I'm thinking this adds a significant amount of heat (with uninsulated SCAT) when the heat is turned on. If so, what type of insulation did you use?? FWIW, Every fuel flow sender installation I've seen in certified aircraft has had the sensor mounted ahead of the firewall and usually between the fuel servo and flow divider. Great discussion. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387569#387569


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    Time: 10:11:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    From: John Zazulka <jpiper623@gmail.com>
    Mike you can try Republic Airport in Long Island. Not to far of a ride to Brooklyn. Car rental would be the way to go. You might have some trouble getting gas but Im sur by the tiime you get here that problem should be easied up. Good Luck and fly safe. If you decide to go to Republic try New York Jet FBO 631-588-4800. No landing fee. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > I too use Panorama at KHPN. High service level, everything as it should > be. I used to live in and around the city and generally settled on KHPN > for trips to Queens. > > I don't know anything about the current post-Sandy conditions but I > usually rent a car when doing the boroughs. I would definitely rent now to > avoid mass transit outages. > > We filmed a trip into KHPN via the Hudson River VFR corridor. Ended up > looking straight down at the 9/11 memorial. I was looking at it last night > and would love to post it but need to figure out how to edit it down a bit. > If and when I do, I'll post a link FWIW. > > Bill Watson > > > On 11/12/2012 7:41 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: > >> n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> >> >> We are planning on flying our RV-10 to New York City next week to visit >> relatives.... >> >> We are staying in Brooklyn Heights. Anyone have any suggestions on where >> to fly in to, how to get around, and issues we might have with the remnants >> of Hurricane Sandy? >> >> And thoughts/guidance/advice would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thank you >> -Mike Kraus >> >> Do not archive >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 11:02:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rigging thoughts
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    I can confirm that moving the aileron vertical height a small amount can make a huge difference. In my case it was left wing heavy, and I lowered the outboard bracket, about 1/32 to 1/16". I did it by slotting the holes in the mounting bracket. Vans sells un-drilled mounting brackets if you don't like the idea of leaving it slotted. (The brackets are for the -7, but can be made to work on the -10). I haven't yet decided what my permanent fix will be. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387703#387703


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    Time: 11:04:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rudder trim RV-10
    From: Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    JR I am probably interested but I am away from home and I will have to confirm a t my shop. I will contact you direct on Tuesday Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone No dia 11/11/2012, =C3-s 17:08, "J. R. (Dick) Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org> es creveu: > > I have a new RV-10 trim kit from Aerosports Products in th e box unopened I will sell for $195.oo, I will pay freight in USA. I built a nd fly an RV6 and won this in a drawing at an RV Fly-In. > Contact: jrdial@hal-pc.org > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 02:46:23 PM PST US
    From: "J. R. (Dick) Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org>
    Subject: rudder trim RV-10
    It has been sold. Thanks, Dick From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:53 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder trim RV-10 JR I am probably interested but I am away from home and I will have to confirm at my shop. I will contact you direct on Tuesday Carlos Enviado do meu iPhone No dia 11/11/2012, =C3-s 17:08, "J. R. (Dick) Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org> escreveu: I have a new RV-10 trim kit from Aerosports Products in the box unopened I will sell for $195.oo, I will pay freight in USA. I built and fly an RV6 and won this in a drawing at an RV Fly-In. Contact: jrdial@hal-pc.org ========= ctric.com >www.buildersbooks.com uilthelp.com matronics.com/contribution ========= ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========= cs.com =========


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    Time: 05:20:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    From: David Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com>
    We flew into KLDJ this past Spring. It's close, but the FBO is less than accommodating and seems they could care less about GA aircraft. Seems like mostly chopper traffic out of there. Landed with 11 gallons on board and figured I'd fuel up on departure. Got to the airport Saturday morning, had to hunt down and employee and they had only 14 gal. of 100LL on the field to sell me. Had to make another stop on my way back to WI. I will not go in there again. Dave Leikam On Nov 12, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > I used Panorama at White Plains and recommend them. > > The only problem was taxi for departure and ground told me to "follow the > Citation". As these are a dime a dozen at this place I had to ask "which > one?". > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of billz > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:41 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying to NYC > > > You might look into KHPN (White Plains, NY). Panorama Aviation is good > place to park. Give them a call and they can give you the details. The > commuter train is not far from the airport and an easy (cheap) way to get > into the city. There website is http://www.flypfs.com/# > > The other option is TEB, but will be more expensive. > > Enjoy your trip! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387676#387676 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:37:28 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    Experiences like that is good written out as feedback on Airnav.com I wrote one in particular and the FBO called me the next day to know what happened in detail and said it wouldn't happen again. They also gave me a big discount on 100LL the next time I stopped in. Positive feedback is a must too. I wrote one two weeks ago about Signature in MSY and Bergstrom at PSC and they both appreciated it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Leikam" <arplnplt@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Flying to NYC > > We flew into KLDJ this past Spring. It's close, but the FBO is less than > accommodating and seems they could care less about GA aircraft. Seems > like mostly chopper traffic out of there. Landed with 11 gallons on board > and figured I'd fuel up on departure. Got to the airport Saturday > morning, had to hunt down and employee and they had only 14 gal. of 100LL > on the field to sell me. Had to make another stop on my way back to WI. > I will not go in there again. > > Dave Leikam > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > >> <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> >> >> I used Panorama at White Plains and recommend them. >> >> The only problem was taxi for departure and ground told me to "follow the >> Citation". As these are a dime a dozen at this place I had to ask "which >> one?". >> >> Carl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of billz >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:41 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying to NYC >> >> >> You might look into KHPN (White Plains, NY). Panorama Aviation is good >> place to park. Give them a call and they can give you the details. The >> commuter train is not far from the airport and an easy (cheap) way to get >> into the city. There website is http://www.flypfs.com/# >> >> The other option is TEB, but will be more expensive. >> >> Enjoy your trip! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387676#387676 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:40:51 PM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Flying to NYC
    I just posted a video of our flight over Manhatten and landing at KHPN (Panorama). It's crude, no music, just engine noise and garbled voices. But it was a beautiful day. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60509998/Manhatten%20to%20KHPN%20wLorrie%20%28trimmed%29.wmv Since then I've hooked up the sound for the GoPro to the intercom which makes things a bit quieter and more interesting. I'll leave it up for a few days for anyone that is interested. Bill Watson On 11/12/2012 12:31 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > I too use Panorama at KHPN. High service level, everything as it > should be. I used to live in and around the city and generally > settled on KHPN for trips to Queens. > > I don't know anything about the current post-Sandy conditions but I > usually rent a car when doing the boroughs. I would definitely rent > now to avoid mass transit outages. > > We filmed a trip into KHPN via the Hudson River VFR corridor. Ended > up looking straight down at the 9/11 memorial. I was looking at it > last night and would love to post it but need to figure out how to > edit it down a bit. If and when I do, I'll post a link FWIW. > > Bill Watson do not archive


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    Time: 10:35:36 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Flying to NYC
    Bill, The link directs visitors to download the movie to their local computer. Unfortunately the file is almost 1 GB. Yikes. I suggest you consider uploading the video to YouTube and allow them to deliver your content streaming. From there you can turn on & off public access and forever have a place to watch your adventures w/o having to handle a large video file. YouTube also allows users to watch at lower resolution where bandwidth is a challenge. Looking forward to reviewing the trip. Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:40 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flying to NYC I just posted a video of our flight over Manhatten and landing at KHPN (Panorama). It's crude, no music, just engine noise and garbled voices. But it was a beautiful day. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60509998/Manhatten%20to%20KHPN%20wLorrie%20%28trimmed%29.wmv Since then I've hooked up the sound for the GoPro to the intercom which makes things a bit quieter and more interesting. I'll leave it up for a few days for anyone that is interested. Bill Watson On 11/12/2012 12:31 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > I too use Panorama at KHPN. High service level, everything as it > should be. I used to live in and around the city and generally > settled on KHPN for trips to Queens. > > I don't know anything about the current post-Sandy conditions but I > usually rent a car when doing the boroughs. I would definitely rent > now to avoid mass transit outages. > > We filmed a trip into KHPN via the Hudson River VFR corridor. Ended up > looking straight down at the 9/11 memorial. I was looking at it last > night and would love to post it but need to figure out how to edit it > down a bit. If and when I do, I'll post a link FWIW. > > Bill Watson do not archive




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