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     1. 03:14 AM - Re: "Co-Pilot Grip activation" switch (was Electric aileron trim) (Carlos Trigo)
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     3. 07:49 AM - OT: EAA Board (Rick Beebe)
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| Subject:  | "Co-Pilot Grip activation" switch (was Electric  aileron | 
      trim)
      
      
      Thanks Robin
      
      Carlos  
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
      Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Novembro de 2012 17:28
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Co-Pilot Grip activation" switch (was Electric
      aileron trim)
      
      
      Carlos,
      It's a nice way to go but unfortunately I have no schematics which I know
      will be shocking for some on this list to believe. :-) But as Tim said " The
      one single switch basically disables the ground on the co-pilot side, so one
      panel switch can remove all control from the co-pilot." Simple solution. BTW
      on my 8A I even placed the Co-Pilots arm switch under a safety switch cover.
      Up is arms, down is disarmed.
      Good luck,
      Robin
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
      Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 3:21 AM
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Co-Pilot Grip activation" switch (was Electric
      aileron trim)
      
      
      Robin
      
      That's a good idea, that I'm going to copy, so would you be so kind to post
      or send me the electric schematic you adopted to install that "Activate
      Co-Pilot's Grip" switch.
      
      Thanks
      Carlos  
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
      Sent: quinta-feira, 15 de Novembro de 2012 20:41
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric aileron trim
      
      
      Bob, I chose to provide full functionality to the co-pilots stick but I also
      have a Activate Co-Pilots Grip switch on my panel. The co-pilots stick
      functions (Trim/PTT/Flip-flop/AP-Off/Flaps) are all inactive unless the
      panel switch arms the co-pilot controls. 
      I did the same for the 8A which was a mistake. Just too complicated for the
      few times they may be desired. 
      
      Robin
      ________________________________________
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] on behalf of Bob Turner
      [bobturner@alum.rpi.edu]
      Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:29 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric aileron trim
      
      
      "Safety Trim" is a commercial product. As stated above, it is an electronic
      control box which will not allow the trim to run for more than 3 seconds at
      one button push, to guard against a runaway trim situation. This could be
      due to a stuck top hat switch, or some have reported a passenger leaning on
      the right stick trim switch. (For this reason I opted not to install a pitch
      trim switch on the right yoke.) This is more critical for pitch trim, which
      is much stronger than the spring loaded aileron trim. I don't know anyone
      who has the Safety Trim box powering their aileron trim.
      
      --------
      Bob Turner
      RV-10 QB
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387990#387990
      
      
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| Subject:  | Pilot / Co-pilot control switch (was Electric aileron  | 
      trim)
      
      
      Thanks Carl 
      
      I will study your description and adapt it to my solution.
      
      Carlos  
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
      Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Novembro de 2012 14:35
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pilot / Co-pilot control switch (was Electric
      aileron trim)
      
      --> <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
      
      Assuming you are using something like the Infinity Grip, there is a common
      wire for the trim top hat switch.  Following the Safety Trim wiring
      instructions you connect this common wire to the safety trim.  To add the
      Pilot/Co-Pilot selector switch you insert this (DPDT) switch between the
      pilot and co-pilot common wires and the Safety trim.  The other four wires
      from each top hat switch all go to the Safety Trim - not through any switch.
      
      I did the standard (momentary) on-off-on toggle switch on the Infinity Grip
      to operate the standard Van's flap actuator.  This toggle switch also as a
      common wire.  Use the other half of the DPDT Pilot/Co-Pilot to switch the
      common wire connection between the pilot and co-pilot.
      
      For other pilot/co-pilot switch configurations:
      PPT - this is controlled via the audio panel as to what radio the pilot or
      co-pilot controls.
      Flip/Flop - I wired the pilot stick to control Comm #1, co-pilot controls
      Comm #2.  This is very limited value for me to add another switch to change
      the pilot flip/flop between the radios.  If the pilot needs to flip/flop
      comm. #2 then use the button on the radio.
      AP disconnect.  Both sticks are wired to disconnect the AP.  Considering the
      Dynon EFIS as an auditable "autopilot disconnected" alert, I will always
      know if the co-pilot hit the button.
      
      I used miniature locking toggle switches in the 8A and the 10 for all but
      heavy current applications (and I used switch breakers for those - such as
      pitot heat and landing lights).  They have performed well.  Here is an
      example of the DPDT on-off-on locking switch:
      http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70128639
      
      Carl
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
      Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 6:25 AM
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pilot / Co-pilot control switch (was Electric
      aileron trim)
      
      
      Carl
      
      It seems you have a similar solution as Robin's, but it can be different, so
      would you post or send me your electric schematic on this "Pilot / Co-pilot
      control switch" you installed.
      
      Thanks
      Carlos
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
      Sent: quinta-feira, 15 de Novembro de 2012 20:50
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Electric aileron trim
      
      --> <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
      
      Safety Trim is used as a replacement for relays and such.  I have the trim
      top hat on the control stick going to the Safety Trim box, then from the box
      to the aileron and elevator trim servos.
      
      On the "co-pilot messing with the trim top hat on his/her stick" problem, I
      added a Trim/Flap control switch on the panel.  It has a Pilot and Co-Pilot
      position.  This way the co-pilot cannot inadvertently operate the trim or
      flap switches on co-pilot stick unless selected.  It has a side benefit of
      isolating the pilot stick switches if one fails and allowing trim/flap
      operation from the other stick as a backup.
      
      Carl
      
      
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      The EAA Board had its Fall meeting yesterday. Among the items discussed, 
      we agreed on the next 5 years of the site development plan and 
      authorized money for this coming year which will build another rest room 
      facility near Theater in the Woods and Vintage cafe, enhance the entry 
      gates and start work on a new Homebuilt Village. We're going to tear 
      down the decrepit hangers across from the homebuilt headquarters (where 
      the "Federal Pavilion" and "Innovation" hangers are), remove all the 
      pavement, plant grass and that whole area will be where the homebuilt 
      exhibitors are. Homebuilt Village won't be done for this coming year but 
      should be for the following.
      
      We also voted to not allow chalets on the flight line. The Aviators Club 
      will remain as it's proven very popular with the members.
      
      We had a lively discussion about Sport Aviation and agreed it needs more 
      homebuilt content. The Homebuilt Council had a 90 minute one-on-one with 
      Mac about it.
      
      There is a sub-committee working on a bunch of bylaw rewording, mostly 
      because the current bylaws are out of date, but also to include some 
      governance changes. Revamping the proxy system is also still in the 
      works. We agreed to set the size of the Board at 21 Class I (elected by 
      the members) Director--3 groups of 7 who get elected for a 3 year term. 
      There are 9 Class II Directors--heads of the divisions (Warbirds, 
      Vintage, Homebuilt Council, etc.) and the EAA President. And up to 11 
      Class III Directors, appointed by the Board for a 1 year term. The Bylaw 
      changes will be voted on at the next Annual Meeting at AirVenture.
      
      The issue of member access to Board minutes is on the table and being 
      worked on. When they're available I'll let you know. There is a project 
      to consolidate and simplify EAA's 23(!) different web sites.
      
      With all the staff changes, the museum has gotten short shrift of the 
      past couple years and that will be an area of renewed focus. A 
      sub-committee will be putting together a plan for our Spring meeting. 
      Frank Christensen's Christen Eagle II, serial number 1 is now hanging in 
      a place of honor in the aerobatics area of the museum. It's a very nice 
      display.
      
      Finally, Jack Pelton continues to volunteer his time to guide the 
      organization until we can hire a new president. That process hasn't 
      started yet, but will shortly.
      
      --Rick
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: OT: EAA Board | 
      
      Hmmmm.
      Rick Beebe richard.beebe@yale.edu  
      
      
      You would think someone from Yale would know how to spell HANGARS.... <G
      >
      do not archive
      
      
      Ben Haas
      N801BH
      www.haaspowerair.com
      
      ---------- Original Message ----------
      From: Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu>
      Subject: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
      
      
      The EAA Board had its Fall meeting yesterday. Among the items discussed,
      
      
      we agreed on the next 5 years of the site development plan and 
      
      authorized money for this coming year which will build another rest room
      
      
      facility near Theater in the Woods and Vintage cafe, enhance the entry 
      
      gates and start work on a new Homebuilt Village. We're going to tear 
      
      down the decrepit hangers across from the homebuilt headquarters (where 
      
      
      the "Federal Pavilion" and "Innovation" hangers are), remove all the 
      
      pavement, plant grass and that whole area will be where the homebuilt 
      
      exhibitors are. Homebuilt Village won't be done for this coming year but
      
      
      should be for the following.
      
      We also voted to not allow chalets on the flight line. The Aviators Club
      
      
      will remain as it's proven very popular with the members.
      
      We had a lively discussion about Sport Aviation and agreed it needs more
      
      
      homebuilt content. The Homebuilt Council had a 90 minute one-on-one with
      
      
      Mac about it.
      
      There is a sub-committee working on a bunch of bylaw rewording, mostly 
      
      because the current bylaws are out of date, but also to include some 
      
      governance changes. Revamping the proxy system is also still in the 
      
      works. We agreed to set the size of the Board at 21 Class I (elected by 
      
      
      the members) Director--3 groups of 7 who get elected for a 3 year term. 
      
      
      There are 9 Class II Directors--heads of the divisions (Warbirds, 
      
      Vintage, Homebuilt Council, etc.) and the EAA President. And up to 11 
      
      Class III Directors, appointed by the Board for a 1 year term. The Bylaw
      
      
      changes will be voted on at the next Annual Meeting at AirVenture.
      
      The issue of member access to Board minutes is on the table and being 
      
      worked on. When they're available I'll let you know. There is a project 
      
      
      to consolidate and simplify EAA's 23(!) different web sites.
      
      With all the staff changes, the museum has gotten short shrift of the 
      
      past couple years and that will be an area of renewed focus. A 
      
      sub-committee will be putting together a plan for our Spring meeting. 
      
      Frank Christensen's Christen Eagle II, serial number 1 is now hanging in
      
      
      a place of honor in the aerobatics area of the museum. It's a very nice 
      
      
      display.
      
      Finally, Jack Pelton continues to volunteer his time to guide the 
      
      organization until we can hire a new president. That process hasn't 
      
      started yet, but will shortly.
      
      --Rick
      
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| Subject:  | Re: OT: EAA Board | 
      
      Missed it because I was trying to figure out how to spell decrepit. Besides,
       I'm not from Yale. I just work there. <g>
      
      --Rick
      
      On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:21 PM, "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote
      :
      
      > Hmmmm.
      > 
      > Rick Beebe richard.beebe@yale.edu 
      >  
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > You would think someone from Yale would know how to spell HANGARS.... <G>
      > 
      > do not archive
      > 
      > 
      > Ben Haas
      > N801BH
      > www.haaspowerair.com
      > 
      > ---------- Original Message ----------
      > From: Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu>
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
      > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:48:07 -0500
      > 
      > 
      > The EAA Board had its Fall meeting yesterday. Among the items discussed, 
      
      > we agreed on the next 5 years of the site development plan and 
      > authorized money for this coming year which will build another rest room 
      
      > facility near Theater in the Woods and Vintage cafe, enhance the entry 
      > gates and start work on a new Homebuilt Village. We're going to tear 
      > down the decrepit hangers across from the homebuilt headquarters (where 
      
      > the "Federal Pavilion" and "Innovation" hangers are), remove all the 
      > pavement, plant grass and that whole area will be where the homebuilt 
      > exhibitors are. Homebuilt Village won't be done for this coming year but 
      
      > should be for the following.
      > 
      > We also voted to not allow chalets on the flight line. The Aviators Club 
      
      > will remain as it's proven very popular with the members.
      > 
      > We had a lively discussion about Sport Aviation and agreed it needs more 
      
      > homebuilt content. The Homebuilt Council had a 90 minute one-on-one with 
      
      > Mac about it.
      > 
      > There is a sub-committee working on a bunch of bylaw rewording, mostly 
      > because the current bylaws are out of date, but also to include some 
      > governance changes. Revamping the proxy system is also still in the 
      > works. We agreed to set the size of the Board at 21 Class I (elected by 
      
      > the members) Director--3 groups of 7 who get elected for a 3 year term. 
      
      > There are 9 Class II Directors--heads of the divisions (Warbirds, 
      > Vintage, Homebuilt Council, etc.) and the EAA President. And up to 11 
      > Class III Directors, appointed by the Board for a 1 year term. The Bylaw 
      
      > changes will be voted on at the next Annual Meeting at AirVenture.
      > 
      > The issue of member access to Board minutes is on the table and being 
      > worked on. When they're available I'll let you know. There is a project 
      
      > to consolidate and simplify EAA's 23(!) different web sites.
      > 
      > With all the staff changes, the museum has gotten short shrift of the 
      > past couple years and that will be an area of renewed focus. A 
      > sub-committee will be putting together a plan for our Spring meeting. 
      > Frank Christensen's Christen Eagle II, serial number 1 is now hanging in 
      
      > a place of honor in the aerobatics area of the museum. It's a very nice 
      
      > display.
      > 
      > Finally, Jack Pelton continues to volunteer his time to guide the 
      > organization until we can hire a new president. That process hasn't 
      > start=======================
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| Subject:  | Re: OT: EAA Board | 
      
      A totally uncalled for response. 
      
      
      David Clifford 
      
      RV-10 Builder 
      Howell, MI 
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: n801bh@netzero.com 
      Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:21:57 PM 
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board 
      
      
      Hmmmm. 
      
      
      Rick Beebe richard.beebe@yale.edu 
      
      
      You would think someone from Yale would know how to spell HANGARS.... <G> 
      
      do not archive 
      
      
      Ben Haas 
      N801BH 
      www.haaspowerair.com 
      
      ---------- Original Message ---------- 
      From: Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu> 
      Subject: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board 
      
      
      The EAA Board had its Fall meeting yesterday. Among the items discussed, 
      we agreed on the next 5 years of the site development plan and 
      authorized money for this coming year which will build another rest room 
      facility near Theater in the Woods and Vintage cafe, enhance the entry 
      gates and start work on a new Homebuilt Village. We're going to tear 
      down the decrepit hangers across from the homebuilt headquarters (where 
      the "Federal Pavilion" and "Innovation" hangers are), remove all the 
      pavement, plant grass and that whole area will be where the homebuilt 
      exhibitors are. Homebuilt Village won't be done for this coming year but 
      should be for the following. 
      
      We also voted to not allow chalets on the flight line. The Aviators Club 
      will remain as it's proven very popular with the members. 
      
      We had a lively discussion about Sport Aviation and agreed it needs more 
      homebuilt content. The Homebuilt Council had a 90 minute one-on-one with 
      Mac about it. 
      
      There is a sub-committee working on a bunch of bylaw rewording, mostly 
      because the current bylaws are out of date, but also to include some 
      governance changes. Revamping the proxy system is also still in the 
      works. We agreed to set the size of the Board at 21 Class I (elected by 
      the members) Director--3 groups of 7 who get elected for a 3 year term. 
      There are 9 Class II Directors--heads of the divisions (Warbirds, 
      Vintage, Homebuilt Council, etc.) and the EAA President. And up to 11 
      Class III Directors, appointed by the Board for a 1 year term. The Bylaw 
      changes will be voted on at the next Annual Meeting at AirVenture. 
      
      The issue of member access to Board minutes is on the table and being 
      worked on. When they're available I'll let you know. There is a project 
      to consolidate and simplify EAA's 23(!) different web sites. 
      
      With all the staff changes, the museum has gotten short shrift of the 
      past couple years and that will be an area of renewed focus. A 
      sub-committee will be putting together a plan for our Spring meeting. 
      Frank Christensen's Christen Eagle II, serial number 1 is now hanging in 
      a place of honor in the aerobatics area of the museum. It's a very nice 
      display. 
      
      Finally, Jack Pelton continues to volunteer his time to guide the 
      organization until we can hire a new president. That process hasn't 
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| Subject:  | Re: OT: EAA Board | 
      
      Rick;
      Thank you for the update and status of the EAA Board. Good to see that 
      Sport Aviation is being rebuilt to focus more on Experimental and moving 
      away from Mac=99s flying focus on certified.
      Great review, thank you for the time to cover the details.
      Regardless of some typo, which I completely missed, I sure appreciate 
      it!
      thx
      
      From: Richard Beebe 
      Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 1:57 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
      
      Missed it because I was trying to figure out how to spell decrepit. 
      Besides, I'm not from Yale. I just work there. <g>
      
      --Rick
      
      On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:21 PM, "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> 
      wrote:
      
      
        Hmmmm.
      
        Rick Beebe richard.beebe@yale.edu 
      
      
        You would think someone from Yale would know how to spell HANGARS.... 
      <G>
      
        do not archive
      
      
        Ben Haas
        N801BH
        www.haaspowerair.com
      
        ---------- Original Message ----------
        From: Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu>
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
        Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:48:07 -0500
      
      
        The EAA Board had its Fall meeting yesterday. Among the items 
      discussed, 
        we agreed on the next 5 years of the site development plan and 
        authorized money for this coming year which will build another rest 
      room 
        facility near Theater in the Woods and Vintage cafe, enhance the entry 
      
        gates and start work on a new Homebuilt Village. We're going to tear 
        down the decrepit hangers across from the homebuilt headquarters 
      (where 
        the "Federal Pavilion" and "Innovation" hangers are), remove all the 
        pavement, plant grass and that whole area will be where the homebuilt 
        exhibitors are. Homebuilt Village won't be done for this coming year 
      but 
        should be for the following.
      
        We also voted to not allow chalets on the flight line. The Aviators 
      Club 
        will remain as it's proven very popular with the members.
      
        We had a lively discussion about Sport Aviation and agreed it needs 
      more 
        homebuilt content. The Homebuilt Council had a 90 minute one-on-one 
      with 
        Mac about it.
      
        There is a sub-committee working on a bunch of bylaw rewording, mostly 
      
        because the current bylaws are out of date, but also to include some 
        governance changes. Revamping the proxy system is also still in the 
        works. We agreed to set the size of the Board at 21 Class I (elected 
      by 
        the members) Director--3 groups of 7 who get elected for a 3 year 
      term. 
        There are 9 Class II Directors--heads of the divisions (Warbirds, 
        Vintage, Homebuilt Council, etc.) and the EAA President. And up to 11 
        Class III Directors, appointed by the Board for a 1 year term. The 
      Bylaw 
        changes will be voted on at the next Annual Meeting at AirVenture.
      
        The issue of member access to Board minutes is on the table and being 
        worked on. When they're available I'll let you know. There is a 
      project 
        to consolidate and simplify EAA's 23(!) different web sites.
      
        With all the staff changes, the museum has gotten short shrift of the 
        past couple years and that will be an area of renewed focus. A 
        sub-committee will be putting together a plan for our Spring meeting. 
        Frank Christensen's Christen Eagle II, serial number 1 is now hanging 
      in 
        a place of honor in the aerobatics area of the museum. It's a very 
      nice 
        display.
      
        Finally, Jack Pelton continues to volunteer his time to guide the 
        organization until we can hire a new president. That process hasn't 
      
      start=======================
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| Subject:  | Elevator Tip Rib Question  | 
      
      Hi All- I'm trying to attach the Tip Rib assembly to the elevators, and can
      not tell what the "order" should be of the parts....I believe the very top 
      is the main skin, followed by the Tip Rib skin.
      
      What I'm unsure about are the flanges of the E-903 Rib and the E-1002 Spar.
        In the attached picture, the E-903 flanges are on the outside of the E-10
      02 spar flanges, but then the main skin is not quite tight between the 1002
       spar and main skin. It also looks like this is stressing the E-1002 flange
       as it pushes it down a bit.
      
      The other option is for the E-1002 flange to be on the outside, but that cr
      eates a tiny gap between the E-903 flange and the E913 Rib Tip skin.   So, 
      nothing looks quite right, and I'm wondering what I'm missing.
      
      I'm sure this is something basic, but I've stared at it long enough!  Thank
       you,\
      
      Steve Farner
      
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      On the front corners of the bottom of the oil pan are two threaded bolt holes.
      
      I've noticed that several have run some angle stock along the front edge using
      those holes.
      
      Can anyone report what the faster/thread size is for those holes?
      
      Thanks in advance.
      
      --------
      Myron Nelson
      Mesa, AZ
      Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear.  Finishing kit and
      FWF kit in progress.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=388190#388190
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: OT: EAA Board | 
      
      
      I used the .... <G> to show my joking nature... Rick responded with a si
      milar <G>....   I am also a Lifetime EAA member so I have alot of skin i
      n the game on the future of the EAA.... I am glad Rick reported on the o
      utcome of the meeting..
      Thanks Rick..
      
      
      Ps.... on off topic comments please us the " do not archive" thing so we
       don't clog Matronics storage ... 
      
      
      Ben Haas
      N801BH
      www.haaspowerair.com
      
      ---------- Original Message ----------
      From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
      
      
      A totally uncalled for response. 
      
      
      David Clifford
      
      RV-10 Builder
      Howell,  MI
      
      From: n801bh@netzero.com
      Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:21:57 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
      
      Hmmmm.
      Rick Beebe richard.beebe@yale.edu  
      
      
      You would think someone from Yale would know how to spell HANGARS.... <G
      >
      do not archive
      
      
      Ben Haas
      N801BH
      www.haaspowerair.com
      
      ---------- Original Message ----------
      From: Rick Beebe <richard.beebe@yale.edu>
      Subject: RV10-List: OT: EAA Board
      
      
      The EAA Board had its Fall meeting yesterday. Among the items discussed,
      
      
      we agreed on the next 5 years of the site development plan and 
      
      authorized money for this coming year which will build another rest room
      
      
      facility near Theater in the Woods and Vintage cafe, enhance the entry 
      
      gates and start work on a new Homebuilt Village. We're going to tear 
      
      down the decrepit hangers across from the homebuilt headquarters (where 
      
      
      the "Federal Pavilion" and "Innovation" hangers are), remove all the 
      
      pavement, plant grass and that whole area will be where the homebuilt 
      
      exhibitors are. Homebuilt Village won't be done for this coming year but
      
      
      should be for the following.
      
      We also voted to not allow chalets on the flight line. The Aviators Club
      
      
      will remain as it's proven very popular with the members.
      
      We had a lively discussion about Sport Aviation and agreed it needs more
      
      
      homebuilt content. The Homebuilt Council had a 90 minute one-on-one with
      
      
      Mac about it.
      
      There is a sub-committee working on a bunch of bylaw rewording, mostly 
      
      because the current bylaws are out of date, but also to include some 
      
      governance changes. Revamping the proxy system is also still in the 
      
      works. We agreed to set the size of the Board at 21 Class I (elected by 
      
      
      the members) Director--3 groups of 7 who get elected for a 3 year term. 
      
      
      There are 9 Class II Directors--heads of the divisions (Warbirds, 
      
      Vintage, Homebuilt Council, etc.) and the EAA President. And up to 11 
      
      Class III Directors, appointed by the Board for a 1 year term. The Bylaw
      
      
      changes will be voted on at the next Annual Meeting at AirVenture.
      
      The issue of member access to Board minutes is on the table and being 
      
      worked on. When they're available I'll let you know. There is a project 
      
      
      to consolidate and simplify EAA's 23(!) different web sites.
      
      With all the staff changes, the museum has gotten short shrift of the 
      
      past couple years and that will be an area of renewed focus. A 
      
      sub-committee will be putting together a plan for our Spring meeting. 
      
      Frank Christensen's Christen Eagle II, serial number 1 is now hanging in
      
      
      a place of honor in the aerobatics area of the museum. It's a very nice 
      
      
      display.
      
      Finally, Jack Pelton continues to volunteer his time to guide the 
      
      organization until we can hire a new president. That process hasn't 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Elevator Tip Rib Question | 
      
      I put the rib flanges inside the spar flanges:
      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/sgspHys2LPDJPdi22WBl1NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
      
      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OrKcmLgostpF9xddmht4dNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
      
      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RPF0hrgtZngylLNIJb17S9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
      
      
      On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Steve Farner <steve.farner@bellevue.edu>wrote:
      
      >   Hi All- I'm trying to attach the Tip Rib assembly to the elevators, and
      > cannot tell what the "order" should be of the parts....I believe the very
      > top is the main skin, followed by the Tip Rib skin.
      >
      > What I'm unsure about are the flanges of the E-903 Rib and the E-1002
      > Spar.  In the attached picture, the E-903 flanges are on the outside of the
      > E-1002 spar flanges, but then the main skin is not quite tight between the
      > 1002 spar and main skin. It also looks like this is stressing the E-1002
      > flange as it pushes it down a bit.
      >
      > The other option is for the E-1002 flange to be on the outside, but that
      > creates a tiny gap between the E-903 flange and the E913 Rib Tip skin.
      >  So, nothing looks quite right, and I'm wondering what I'm missing.
      >
      > I'm sure this is something basic, but I've stared at it long enough!
      > Thank you,\
      >
      > Steve Farner
      >
      
 
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