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1. 04:47 AM - Re: Manifold Pressure 'excursions' Your feedback wanted (Eric_Kallio)
2. 05:02 AM - Re: Is there a DAR "standard"? (Eric_Kallio)
3. 06:00 AM - Re: Mesa and KFFZ (Tim Olson)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Manifold Pressure 'excursions' Your feedback wanted (Linn)
5. 10:29 AM - Re: Mesa and KFFZ (Bill Watson)
6. 10:58 AM - Re: Re: Is there a DAR "standard"? (Bill Watson)
7. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: Is there a DAR "standard"? (Linn)
8. 12:37 PM - ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer (Tim Olson)
9. 01:11 PM - Re: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer (Pascal)
10. 02:57 PM - Re: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer (Bill Watson)
11. 03:07 PM - Re: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer (Pascal)
12. 04:34 PM - Re: Maximum Climb Angle (Tim Lewis)
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| Subject: | Re: Manifold Pressure 'excursions' Your feedback wanted |
Not to hijack Deems' thread here, but along the lines of MP indicating issues...
When I turn on my boost pump the MP indications go up by 4 PSI. No other changes
in engine indications (CHT, EGT, RPM). Anyone witnessed anything like this
one before and have any thoughts on where to begin tracking this one down?
Eric
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Is there a DAR "standard"? |
When I went through I had a very proactive DAR who wanted to make 3 visits. He
charged me somewhere around $400 total and came out after I made contact with
him to make first contact and talk with me about the process, look at the project,
discuss what he was looking for, and he provided me with a packet of paperwork
that would need to be completed before it was all said and done. On his
second visit everything was opened up and he performed his flashlight and mirror
inspection. He provided me with 3 lists of notes. One was a list of things
that must be fixed before he would sign off (fortunately I had none). The second
list were things that should be addressed no later than the next annual. Finally
were just some notes. Eventually he came for a third visit where I had
to start the engine and he verified the avionics and instruments came alive and
that the engine and the nav/strobe/landing lights were functioning. It was a
long process and he performed more than what he said was required of a DAR, but
by the time I first flew the plane had been thoroughly looked over.
Eric
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389246#389246
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| Subject: | Re: Mesa and KFFZ |
I ended up at KCHD a year or more ago...it was a good place
to stay, so I can 2nd that choice.
Tim
On 11/27/2012 10:19 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Can't say that I can make a recommendation at FFZ. However, unless you
> have real need to be there, CHD is only around 10nm SW, with cheaper
> fuel, cafe on field, with nearby lodging and rental cars. FBO full and
> self serve, and city self serve fuel, full service maintenance facility,
> etc. I'm based there, building my -10 there, happy to assist.
> There are plenty of things to do, from golf, zoo, botanical gardens, art
> and other museums.
> FFZ does have both CAF facility with numerous WWII aircraft, and Boeing
> helicopter factory. 2 flying -10s there and another nearby in finishing
> phase.
> Around the area there is Sedona with scenic red rocks, aircraft carrier
> runway. Eloy has world class sky diving facility. Tucson has Pima Air
> Museum and Davis Monthan AFB with both active A-10 squadron and most
> mothballed USAF aircraft. Pinal AirPark is one of the country's biggest
> airliner storage facility.
>
> On 11/27/2012 8:54 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>>
>> I have a trip planned to Mesa's Falcon Field (KFFZ) and would like
>> advice on a good FBO. It seems they are numerous and I haven't a clue
>> which one to pick.
>>
>> Things to do in the area would be appreciated as well.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sheldo Olesen
>> N475PV 440hrs
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Manifold Pressure 'excursions' Your feedback wanted |
Scratching my head over this one. There should be no connection between
MP and the boost pump ..... except maybe an electrical connection with
the MP sensor if you have one. I find most electrical gremlins can be
traced to poor grounds or ground loops. so check the ground for the
boost pump.
Linn
On 11/28/2012 7:47 AM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> Not to hijack Deems' thread here, but along the lines of MP indicating issues...
When I turn on my boost pump the MP indications go up by 4 PSI. No other changes
in engine indications (CHT, EGT, RPM). Anyone witnessed anything like this
one before and have any thoughts on where to begin tracking this one down?
>
> Eric
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389244#389244
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mesa and KFFZ |
I visited Phoenix last season about this time but didn't visit KFFZ.
I parked it for a week at Scottsdale's Aircenter at KSDL because it was
closest to where I was going. It's primarily a jetport which can
translate into a high level of service and amenities. Definitely the
case at KSDL's Scottsdale Aircenter. Overpriced fuel, $15/night
otherwise, Ice cream sandwiches along with all the rest and we were the
only SE piston in sight. I like it like that. It was perfect except....
... due to some radio problems I needed some avionics help. The shop at
Aircenter looked at me like I grew a third head. A call out on this
list brought Kelly to the rescue. I flew over to KCHD to get some
access to tools and advice. (Thanks again Kelly!!) KCHD is a great
light plane place with lot's of planes and facilities. I'd stay there
if it were closer to my destination.
This was my first western excursion with a power plane. As others have
hinted out, shade or a hangar is very desirable. First day out in the
SW sun after 100 flying hours, things in my interior started to come
apart. Nothing serious but an interior shield is the minimum required.
Missed a serious dust storm by a day.
I need to get back there soon.
Bill "between trips" Watson
N215TG
On 11/27/2012 10:54 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>
> I have a trip planned to Mesa's Falcon Field (KFFZ) and would like advice on
a good FBO. It seems they are numerous and I haven't a clue which one to pick.
>
> Things to do in the area would be appreciated as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sheldo Olesen
> N475PV 440hrs
>
> Do not archive
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is there a DAR "standard"? |
My DAR charged about the same for a single visit as described earlier.
However, I was lucky enough to get the thorough going over by a very
experienced TC. He had been monitoring my build with a roughly annual
visit. He's an airpark neighbor but apparently came to the conclusion
that my building process was fine and his assistance was needed only on
request.
My TC strongly suggested that test flying take place on a hard surface
runway with off field options. I took that advice, assembled at remote
airport, and prepared to fly. My TC, previously a man of few words and
limited action, showed up several times for the W&B work, a thorough
mirror and flashlight inspection and to supervise engine setup. In
other words, the important stuff.
This is exactly what I needed. **Dirty Laundry Alert** He found one
critical problem during his inspection - untorqued fuel fittings.
Apparently, years ago, I hand tightened the entire fuel system with the
intent of torquing down all the fittings later. At the point he found
one loose fitting, he grabbed some wrenches and dove into the innards to
check every single fuel fitting. A potential life saver. The engine
setup was much needed as well because I didn't have a clue as to what to do.
Anyway, I'm writing all this just to reiterate the importance of the
pre-first flight inspections. Your DAR may or may not focus on them to
the extent needed (my DAR would not have found this given his inspection
- but he may have known of my TC inspection - I'll never know). Unless
you are an experienced mechanic, some expert hands and eyes are
required. If you are an experienced mechanic, you will probably get
some other expert hands and eyes anyway.
Bill
do not archive
On 11/28/2012 8:02 AM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> When I went through I had a very proactive DAR who wanted to make 3 visits. He
charged me somewhere around $400 total and came out after I made contact with
him to make first contact and talk with me about the process, look at the project,
discuss what he was looking for, and he provided me with a packet of paperwork
that would need to be completed before it was all said and done. On his
second visit everything was opened up and he performed his flashlight and mirror
inspection. He provided me with 3 lists of notes. One was a list of things
that must be fixed before he would sign off (fortunately I had none). The second
list were things that should be addressed no later than the next annual.
Finally were just some notes. Eventually he came for a third visit where I had
to start the engine and he verified the avionics and instruments came alive
and that the engine and the nav/strobe/landing lights were functioning. It was
a long process and he performed more than what he sai!
> d was required of a DAR, but by the time I first flew the plane had been thoroughly
looked over.
>
> Eric
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is there a DAR "standard"? |
When I built my Pitts S-1E in the late 70's my DAR was the Piper (Vero
Beach is close by) inspector. He came up for the 'pre-cover' inspection
which we had to do back then, and Looked at the log books I had laid out
on a table. He looked across the hangar and said 'I only see one wing'
..... and I pointed out that the lower wings were behind the top wing.
OK. Tail feathers over there ..... and signed the logbooks and left.
Final inspection day the airplane was pulled out in front of the hangar,
ready to fly and the books were on the table. He said 'looks nice',
signed the logs and then we had this conversation: "You really didn't
look it over very hard." "Don't need to. It looks like a Pitts and the
rigging looks right ..... and it ought to fly OK."
So the next day I flew the first flight with no squawks, landed and was
pushing the Pitts back into the hangar when I noticed the jam nuts on
the tail brace wires weren't tight .... far from it. And the
landing/flying wires .... same thing. A lot of people had looked at the
airplane and nobody noticed the loose jam nuts .... including me.
Don't remember what he charged (if anything) but I would have welcomed a
little closer inspection, just for my own peace of mind.
Linn
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| Subject: | ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer |
Not sure if others got this or not, but just one part to
check out if you have used an ECI parts kit at all, or
happen to have an ECI retainer clip from some maintenance.
http://eci.aero/pdf/12-1.pdf
Just one of those little things...
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer |
I called Eci, good folks! the stock was changed in July 2010. Basically if
there was a problem one would know rather quickly in the form of a oil leak.
I explained I had over 100 hours and he suggested that it was quite remote
at this point to have an issue, which means I probably had the engine built
with different retainer clips.
If you have had the engine less than 2 years this should not apply to you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer
Not sure if others got this or not, but just one part to
check out if you have used an ECI parts kit at all, or
happen to have an ECI retainer clip from some maintenance.
http://eci.aero/pdf/12-1.pdf
Just one of those little things...
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer |
Some clarification please. Is this an aftermarket part that would not
be found on a new stock Lycoming?
Thanks as always,
Bill
On 11/28/2012 3:36 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Not sure if others got this or not, but just one part to
> check out if you have used an ECI parts kit at all, or
> happen to have an ECI retainer clip from some maintenance.
>
> http://eci.aero/pdf/12-1.pdf
>
> Just one of those little things...
> Tim
>
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| Subject: | Re: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer |
Eci cylinders are an option that are put into experimental engines.
Mattituck, Penn Aero, America's, etc may us them when they build an engine
for a builder (overhauled, rebuilt).. Lycoming has their own cylinders so
not an issue for stock Lycoming.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Watson
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: ECI Pushrod Shroud Retainer
Some clarification please. Is this an aftermarket part that would not
be found on a new stock Lycoming?
Thanks as always,
Bill
On 11/28/2012 3:36 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Not sure if others got this or not, but just one part to
> check out if you have used an ECI parts kit at all, or
> happen to have an ECI retainer clip from some maintenance.
>
> http://eci.aero/pdf/12-1.pdf
>
> Just one of those little things...
> Tim
>
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| Subject: | Re: Maximum Climb Angle |
Not the answer, but a data point: I see up to about 15 degrees pitch up
(EFIS reference w.r.t. cruise pitch) at best rate of climb (takeoff).
Best angle would be steeper.
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 1104 hrs - sold
RV-10 N31TD -- 350 hrs
Les Kearney said the following on 11/25/2012 11:23 AM:
> Maximum Climb Angle
>
> Hi
>
> One of the things I need to do for my final inspection is ensure fuel
> flow with minimum fuel at the maximum climb angle.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the maximumpitch angle is in a climb?
>
> I will assume that theminimumfuel is whatever it takes to allow fuel
> to flow at that angle.Anyone have an idea of what that might be?
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643 - CGCWZ
>
> Soclose, oh so close..
>
> *
>
>
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