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1. 08:03 AM - Upper Fwd Fuselage Sec 31 (Rick Lark)
2. 08:26 AM - Re: Upper Fwd Fuselage Sec 31 (Ron B.)
3. 08:26 AM - Mag cooling tubes (woxofswa)
4. 10:28 AM - Re: Mag cooling tubes (Dave Saylor)
5. 11:59 AM - Re: Mag cooling tubes (Carl Froehlich)
6. 12:10 PM - Re: Mag cooling tubes (Robin Marks)
7. 01:22 PM - Baron Mobile Link System for sale (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
8. 04:24 PM - Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Carlos Trigo)
9. 04:34 PM - Re: Mag cooling tubes (Kelly McMullen)
10. 04:39 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Rene)
11. 04:46 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Jesse Saint)
12. 04:56 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (bob-tcw)
13. 05:54 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Carl Froehlich)
14. 06:36 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
15. 06:58 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Chris)
16. 08:16 PM - Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables (Bob Turner)
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Subject: | Upper Fwd Fuselage Sec 31 |
Hi All
Currently working on the fwd fuse and I just noticed I have section 31Q
plans, as well as a section 31. I scanned through both copies and can't
find any differences. Even the revision numbers on both copies are mixed
with all sorts of different dates. Does anyone know why I would have both?
Thx, Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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Subject: | Re: Upper Fwd Fuselage Sec 31 |
I do believe that 31Q was for the optional throttle quadrant mount.If you look
at pn/F-1083 on page 31-9 you'll see that it's mounted different. I don't remember
but it might also be a different part (I'm only looking at plan 31 as I don't
have 31Q in front of me.
Ron
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Subject: | Mag cooling tubes |
I'll be running Bendix 1200's primarily in AZ. I'm curious about the brain trust
consensus about mag cooling tubes. My spam cans never had them.
Are they air worth taking or is the air put to better use left in the containment
area?
What about the fuel pump?
Thanks in advance.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and
FWF kit in progress.
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Subject: | Re: Mag cooling tubes |
I think it helps to cool the part of the mag closest to the breaker cam.
The little plastic follower that rides on the cam seems most sensitive to
heat. Make sure you keep the tube up close the the magneto case so the
cooler air doesn't get diluted before it reaches the mag.
I don't cool my fuel pump but I don't have to deal with the OATs that you
do.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:26 AM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote:
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> I'll be running Bendix 1200's primarily in AZ. I'm curious about the
> brain trust consensus about mag cooling tubes. My spam cans never had them.
> Are they air worth taking or is the air put to better use left in the
> containment area?
> What about the fuel pump?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --------
> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing
> kit and FWF kit in progress.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389673#389673
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Subject: | Mag cooling tubes |
I'm not using cooling tubes on the mags - I will however back fit a small
tube if/when Brad at Emag ever gets the six cylinder electronic ignition
done.
On the fuel pump, no cooling tube but I had a lot of concern on the location
of the cabin heat control valves. In the summertime all that really hot air
coming off the heat muffs is dumped right toward the fuel pump. I put a
piece of KoolMat
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=KOOLMAT+INSULATION&x=0&y=0
between the firewall and the control valves (hole cut out where the value
penetrates the firewall0 then draped the KoolMat over the top of the valves,
tucking the end between the bottom of the valves and the nose gear mount.
This redirects the dumped hot air down and away from the engine and fuel
pump.
Carl
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Subject: RV10-List: Mag cooling tubes
I'll be running Bendix 1200's primarily in AZ. I'm curious about the brain
trust consensus about mag cooling tubes. My spam cans never had them.
Are they air worth taking or is the air put to better use left in the
containment area?
What about the fuel pump?
Thanks in advance.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit
and FWF kit in progress.
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Subject: | Mag cooling tubes |
Carl,
I suspect you will have built your RV-27 before the 6 cylinder P-Mag arrives.
Robin
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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Mag cooling tubes
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I'm not using cooling tubes on the mags - I will however back fit a small tube
if/when Brad at Emag ever gets the six cylinder electronic ignition done.
On the fuel pump, no cooling tube but I had a lot of concern on the location of
the cabin heat control valves. In the summertime all that really hot air coming
off the heat muffs is dumped right toward the fuel pump. I put a piece of
KoolMat
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=KOOLMAT+INSULATION&x=0&y=0
between the firewall and the control valves (hole cut out where the value penetrates
the firewall0 then draped the KoolMat over the top of the valves, tucking
the end between the bottom of the valves and the nose gear mount.
This redirects the dumped hot air down and away from the engine and fuel pump.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woxofswa
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Mag cooling tubes
I'll be running Bendix 1200's primarily in AZ. I'm curious about the brain trust
consensus about mag cooling tubes. My spam cans never had them.
Are they air worth taking or is the air put to better use left in the containment
area?
What about the fuel pump?
Thanks in advance.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and
FWF kit in progress.
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Subject: | Baron Mobile Link System for sale |
Greetings:
I have a complete Baron Weather Works system for sale. This system
provides complete XM weather to your IPAD via a WIFI connection. Unlike
ADSB this system provides near real time weather ON THE GROUND OR
ANYWHERE IN THE US. I will also include the Dual portable GPS which
provides accurate wireless GPS position to your IPAD. All cables and
system components are included along with a triplex cigarette power
adapter. All equipment is in like new condition. This is a $1,200 value.
After having in flight weather I would not fly cross country trips again
without it.
Asking $500.00 or best offer.
Dick Sipp
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Subject: | Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
Gang
I am finding it almost "impossible" to route the CT Q-43 teleflex cables
from the Elevator Trim system through the Horizontal Stabilizer spars.
Is there a secret I must know about this?
Any hints are welcome
Regards
Carlos
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Subject: | Re: Mag cooling tubes |
I believe the Bendix 1200 uses a very different breaker cam follower
arrangement than the Slicks the new engines come with.
I don't know if there is anything in the Bendix that is particularly
heat sensitive, but my Mooney has cooling blast tubes for the stock
Bendix mags it came with 47 yrs ago.
On 12/1/2012 11:26 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> I think it helps to cool the part of the mag closest to the breaker
> cam. The little plastic follower that rides on the cam seems most
> sensitive to heat. Make sure you keep the tube up close the the
> magneto case so the cooler air doesn't get diluted before it reaches
> the mag.
>
> I don't cool my fuel pump but I don't have to deal with the OATs that
> you do.
>
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:26 AM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com
> <mailto:woxof@aol.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:woxof@aol.com>>
>
> I'll be running Bendix 1200's primarily in AZ. I'm curious about
> the brain trust consensus about mag cooling tubes. My spam cans
> never had them.
> Are they air worth taking or is the air put to better use left in
> the containment area?
> What about the fuel pump?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --------
> Myron Nelson
> Mesa, AZ
> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear.
> Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress.
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Subject: | Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
If I remember right.I used a shot fish tape.coat hanger.to make it happen...
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables
Gang
I am finding it almost "impossible" to route the CT Q-43 teleflex cables
from the Elevator Trim system through the Horizontal Stabilizer spars.
Is there a secret I must know about this?
Any hints are welcome
Regards
Carlos
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Subject: | Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
Run a piece of Pitot line or similar tubing throwing backwards, put threaded
end into tube, push through as you get the HS in place.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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On Dec 1, 2012, at 7:22 PM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> Gang
>
> I am finding it almost =9Cimpossible=9D to route the CT Q-43 t
eleflex cables from the Elevator Trim system through the Horizontal Stabiliz
er spars.
> Is there a secret I must know about this?
> Any hints are welcome
>
> Regards
> Carlos
>
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Subject: | Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
Carlos, The first time I tried to route those cables I thought,
=9C how is this possible?=9D fighting them all the way.
So when I put them together after paint I attached a fish tape to the
end of the cable and was able to pull them through the bushings and that
elongated first hole without much difficulty at all. Being able to
pull the cable through while pushing it from the other end was the
secret for me. I though I was going to have to open up the oval hole,
but did not with the help of a fish tape.
Bob Newman
N541RV flying,
N361RV under construction...oops I did it again.
From: Carlos Trigo
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables
Gang
I am finding it almost =9Cimpossible=9D to route the CT Q-43
teleflex cables from the Elevator Trim system through the Horizontal
Stabilizer spars.
Is there a secret I must know about this?
Any hints are welcome
Regards
Carlos
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Subject: | Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
I was not thrilled with having the cable ride in the oval hole without
some kind of protection. I added a snap bushing to the cable, but as
the snap bushing is at an angle to the aluminum edge of the oval hole I
added epoxy to hold the bushing in place. This eliminated the issue of
having the oval hole aluminum edge cut into the cable.
Carl
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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables
Carlos, The first time I tried to route those cables I thought,
=9C how is this possible?=9D fighting them all the way.
So when I put them together after paint I attached a fish tape to the
end of the cable and was able to pull them through the bushings and that
elongated first hole without much difficulty at all. Being able to
pull the cable through while pushing it from the other end was the
secret for me. I though I was going to have to open up the oval hole,
but did not with the help of a fish tape.
Bob Newman
N541RV flying,
N361RV under construction...oops I did it again.
From: Carlos Trigo <mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables
Gang
I am finding it almost =9Cimpossible=9D to route the CT Q-43
teleflex cables from the Elevator Trim system through the Horizontal
Stabilizer spars.
Is there a secret I must know about this?
Any hints are welcome
Regards
Carlos
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Subject: | Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
I wasn't as smart as all of the other sensible solutions I now see here. I
think I lost about a pint of blood from my fingers the first time I put th
em through there.
From: trigo@mail.telepac.pt
Subject: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables
Gang I am finding it almost =93impossible=94 to route the CT Q-43 teleflex
cables from the Elevator Trim system through the Horizontal Stabilizer spar
s.Is there a secret I must know about this?Any hints are welcome RegardsCar
los
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Subject: | Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
I did this too but opened the oval a little more and added the Spring Fast
edge protection to the oval. Fished cable through with aluminum tubing.
-Chris
N919AR
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From: Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
Sent: Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:53:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables
I was not thrilled with having the cable ride in the oval hole without some
kind of protection. I added a snap bushing to the cable, but as the snap
bushing is at an angle to the aluminum edge of the oval hole I added epoxy
to hold the bushing in place. This eliminated the issue of having the oval
hole aluminum edge cut into the cable.
Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob-tcw
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Routing the Elevator Trim cables Carlos, The firs
t time I tried to route those cables I thought, =9C how is this poss
ible?=9D fighting them all the way. So when I put them together
after paint I attached a fish tape to the end of the cable and was able to
pull them through the bushings and that elongated first hole without much
difficulty at all. Being able to pull the cable through while pushing it
from the other end was the secret for me. I though I was going to have t
o open up the oval hole, but did not with the help of a fish tape. Bob Newm
anN541RV flying,N361RV under construction...oops I did it again. From:Carlo
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Subject: | Re: Routing the Elevator Trim cables |
I remember it was hard. I think I found a pair of 12" hemostats useful.
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RV-10 QB
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