---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/05/12: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:36 AM - Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? (Bill Judge) 2. 08:13 AM - Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? (Phil White) 3. 08:32 AM - Glideslope Antennas (Phillip Perry) 4. 08:43 AM - Re: Glideslope Antennas (Strasnuts) 5. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Phillip Perry) 6. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Marcus Cooper) 7. 09:59 AM - Re: Glideslope Antennas (Bob Turner) 8. 10:02 AM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Seano) 9. 11:18 AM - Re: Glideslope Antennas (Bob Turner) 10. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Robin Marks) 11. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? (Tim Olson) 12. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Ed Kranz) 13. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Tim Olson) 14. 12:06 PM - New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale (Sean Stephens) 15. 12:10 PM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Robin Marks) 16. 12:13 PM - Re: Glideslope Antennas (Bob Turner) 17. 12:41 PM - Re: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale (pilotdds) 18. 01:38 PM - Re: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale (John MacCallum) 19. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Ed Kranz) 20. 02:26 PM - Re: Glideslope Antennas (David Maib) 21. 03:11 PM - Re: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale (Sean Stephens) 22. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Bill Watson) 23. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Glideslope Antennas (Phillip Perry) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:19 AM PST US From: Bill Judge Subject: RV10-List: Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? Thanks for the advice. So, if you were length constrained, it sounds like the best you could do would be to cleco the tailcone on, fit the cabin top, finish the doors and interior then pull the tail cone off to do the fire wall forward work. In that case all you're saving is the length from the firewall to the spinner, bottom line is that you need 20 feet at least. Wing and empannage storage isn't a problem, I've got a hangar for that, I just know that the longer you stay at the house the faster you get done. VR, Bill On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:01 AM, RV10-List Digest Server < rv10-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete RV10-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(John Cox) > 4. 03:57 PM - Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? (Jesse Saint) > 5. 06:10 PM - Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? (Bob Leffler) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:58:17 PM PST US > From: Bill Judge > Subject: RV10-List: Delayed tail cone attaching? > > Greetings, > I'm figuring out space for building an RV-10, translation is that my wife > and I are passively shopping for a house. > > I'm wondering if you can delay attaching the tail cone until after you've > completed the firewall forward, interior, windows, doors and just about > everything else that takes forever to finish? > > Seems like you'd be able to build the RV-10 in a much smaller place if you > didn't have to attach the tail cone until much later, like at the airport. > > Anyway, I'd love to hear some opinions on this. > > Thanks, > > Bill Judge > N84WJ, RV-8, 843 hrs > http://rv-8.blogspot.com/ > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:09:09 PM PST US > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Delayed tail cone attaching? > From: Phillip Perry > > I don't think that would be a problem. The only issue that I can think of > would be at the baggage bulkhead. I think you'd have to wait to do that > until the tailcone is attached. > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Bill Judge wrote: > > > Seems like you'd be able to build the RV-10 in a much smaller place if > you > > didn't have to attach the tail cone until much later, like at the > airport. > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:09:41 PM PST US > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Delayed tail cone attaching? > From: John Cox > > Longerons are integral to FWF and fuselage. > > John 40600 > On Dec 4, 2012 3:02 PM, "Bill Judge" wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I'm figuring out space for building an RV-10, translation is that my wife > > and I are passively shopping for a house. > > > > I'm wondering if you can delay attaching the tail cone until after you've > > completed the firewall forward, interior, windows, doors and just about > > everything else that takes forever to finish? > > > > Seems like you'd be able to build the RV-10 in a much smaller place if > you > > didn't have to attach the tail cone until much later, like at the > airport. > > > > Anyway, I'd love to hear some opinions on this. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bill Judge > > N84WJ, RV-8, 843 hrs > > http://rv-8.blogspot.com/ > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:57:55 PM PST US > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Delayed tail cone attaching? > From: Jesse Saint > > You really need the tailbone attached to be able to do doors and other > thing > s. You could possibly attach the rear windows to the cabin top, but that's > n > ot a big job. The cabin top installation requires the tailbone to be > attache > d. > > On the firewall forward, you would really want the upper forward fuselage > at > a minimum, and I may worry about things being deformed in the back if I > did > n't have the tailcone on, as John mentioned. I have replaced a tailcone on > a > finished plane before, so it isn't physically impossible, but the > tailcone h > ad originally been on when the rest had been done. > > In short, it can probably be done, but it would introduce more risks than > I w > ould want. At the very least I would want to Cleco the tailcone on and > insta > ll the cabin top permanently before going to the fwf, and that would be > abso > lutely necessary, IMHO, before doing the doors. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > www.mavericklsa.com > C: 352-427-0285 > O: 352-465-4545 > F: 815-377-3694 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:09 PM, John Cox wrote: > > > Longerons are integral to FWF and fuselage. > > > > John 40600 > > > > On Dec 4, 2012 3:02 PM, "Bill Judge" wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> I'm figuring out space for building an RV-10, translation is that my > wife > and I are passively shopping for a house. > >> > >> I'm wondering if you can delay attaching the tail cone until after > you've > completed the firewall forward, interior, windows, doors and just about > eve > rything else that takes forever to finish? > >> > >> Seems like you'd be able to build the RV-10 in a much smaller place if > yo > u didn't have to attach the tail cone until much later, like at the > airport. > > >> > >> Anyway, I'd love to hear some opinions on this. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Bill Judge > >> N84WJ, RV-8, 843 hrs > >> http://rv-8.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > >> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > >> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> tp://forums.matronics.com > >> > > > > > > > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:10:05 PM PST US > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Delayed tail cone attaching? > From: Bob Leffler > > > I built 90% of my project in one half of a two car garage. You'll want > to a > ttach the tail cone, but you'll can leave the horizontal and vertical off > un > til the airport. The biggest issue is where to store the empennage parts > w > hile building the wings. I hung mine from the ceiling, but I have 14' > ceil > ings in the garage. I couldn't put on the engine mount on in my garage > due > to other things in the garage, but if your two car is empty, it shouldn't > b > e an issue. > > The fuselage and wings will take about the same amount of space. > > You won't be able to complete many tasks without the tail cone riveted to > th > e fuselage. Leaving it off wouldn't be my recommendation. > > Bob > > > > On Dec 4, 2012 3:02 PM, "Bill Judge" wrote: > >> Greetings, > >> I'm figuring out space for building an RV-10, translation is that my > wife > and I are passively shopping for a house. > >> > >> I'm wondering if you can delay attaching the tail cone until after > you've > completed the firewall forward, interior, windows, doors and just about > eve > rything else that takes forever to finish? > >> > >> Seems like you'd be able to build the RV-10 in a much smaller place if > yo > u didn't have to attach the tail cone until much later, like at the > airport. > > >> > >> Anyway, I'd love to hear some opinions on this. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Bill Judge > >> N84WJ, RV-8, 843 hrs > >> http://rv-8.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > >> .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > >> ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> tp://forums.matronics.com > >> > > > > > > > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > ========================= > ======== > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:30 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? From: "Phil White" Bill: I built my -10 in one half a modest 2 car garage, attached tail cone, and hung my Mazda engine (which with PSRU, is 6" longer than stock to prop flange), and I could close the garage door with 1/2" to spare. Not easy to pull out and re-park, but I did it several times, with jockeying. Also built a cradle that stored both wings leading edge down plus the horiz stab between, and it fit beside the fuse. All this to maintain marital peace by allowing wife's car to be in out of Chicago winters for several years. Better by far to build at home than drive to a hangar. Those late nite work session from 10:30 to 11:30 were very productive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389902#389902 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:15 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Glideslope Antennas From: Phillip Perry I haven't seen much discussion about the location for glideslope antennas and I'm going to need to make that decision sometime soon. What seems to be the standard choice for antenna type and placement? Also what type of results are you seeing? Thanks, Phil #40750 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:51 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: "Strasnuts" http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/comant157p.php and http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/coupler507.php?clickkey=11684 -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389905#389905 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: Phillip Perry That sounds pretty easy. Maybe that's why I never heard any discussion about it. :) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/comant157p.php > > and > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/coupler507.php?clickkey=11684 > > -------- > 40936 > RV-10 SB N801VR Flying > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389905#389905 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: Marcus Cooper I used the Bob Archer VOR wingtip antenna and the splitter mentioned below. Works great. Marcus 40286 On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:43 AM, "Strasnuts" wrote: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/comant157p.php and http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/coupler507.php?clickkey=11684 -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389905#389905 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:41 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: "Bob Turner" As you are seeing, although it is possible to have a separate GS antenna (ever been in a Cessna with the bow tie antenna on the windscreen?) most people are using a VOR antenna with a splitter. If you have an SL30 it isn't even an option - it has a splitter built in for the GS, and the only input is for a VOR antenna. I too use the Archer wingtip antenna, and it works great. It may have a directionally-dependent slightly reduced range for VORs, but I have heard no complaints about it when used for the localizer or GS. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389913#389913 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:16 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas There will be a bunch of combinations and personal opinions but just for reference I installed the Bob Archer in my wingtip for Nav 2 (SL30). My 430W is my NAV1 with the CI-157P on the vertical stab and it uses the diplexer. At 7000 feet I was averaging around 30-40 miles better reception on the cat whiskers than the Bob Archer. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Perry To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:48 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas That sounds pretty easy. Maybe that's why I never heard any discussion about it. :) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Strasnuts wrote: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/comant157p.php and http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/coupler507.php?clickkey=1 1684 -------- 40936 RV-10 SB N801VR Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389905#389905 ========== ="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com ooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com et="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution le, List Admin. ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:27 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: "Bob Turner" As the above post mentions, you will hear varying opinions on the Archer antenna. I think this is because it is somewhat installation dependent. However, I have not yet heard any negative comments about localizer or GS reception. My data point: I did not follow Archer's instructions to the letter. From 7000' I routinely receive useable VOR signals (SL30) from 80 miles away - essentially line of sight to the horizon - except when the VOR is 90 degrees to the right, and the antenna has to "look" thru the fuselage. Then range is perhaps 40 miles. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389919#389919 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:48 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas Me too. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:00 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas I used the Bob Archer VOR wingtip antenna and the splitter mentioned below. Works great. Marcus 40286 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:52 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? I'd agree with that. I don't think I'd want to even just cleco it and finish the cabin top, because if you get anything not solid and aligned it could cause issues with doors and windows and flex later. So better to just leave everything involving the cabin top until after you can join the tailcone. My garage wouldn't handle the airplane straight in, with the tailcone attached. I had to angle it across the garage. I think I used 22' or so. I'd just keep shopping for that house with a bigger garage and work on the other things that you can first. You could probably even do your entire panel and stuff, if you make things easily removable, if you have to. Tim do not archive On 12/5/2012 9:34 AM, Bill Judge wrote: > Thanks for the advice. > > So, if you were length constrained, it sounds like the best you could do > would be to cleco the tailcone on, fit the cabin top, finish the doors > and interior then pull the tail cone off to do the fire wall forward > work. In that case all you're saving is the length from the firewall to > the spinner, bottom line is that you need 20 feet at least. > > Wing and empannage storage isn't a problem, I've got a hangar for that, > I just know that the longer you stay at the house the faster you get done. > > VR, > Bill > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: Ed Kranz This might be a stupid question, but if you are using a wingtip Bob Archer antenna for GS/LOC, would your position be offset by the 15' or so that the antenna is out from the centerline of the plane? Is this something that you can compensate for in the NAV radio? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > > Me too. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:00 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas > > > I used the Bob Archer VOR wingtip antenna and the splitter mentioned > below. Works great. > > Marcus > 40286 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:48:55 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas No worries, Ed, all you do is fly 15' over to the left or right a little. :) You go try flying the approach to 15' lateral accuracy and let me know when you've got it perfected. :) (sorry, couldn't resist...especially since it was you) Tim No not archive, no way, no how. On 12/5/2012 1:38 PM, Ed Kranz wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but if you are using a wingtip Bob > Archer antenna for GS/LOC, would your position be offset by the 15' or > so that the antenna is out from the centerline of the plane? > > Is this something that you can compensate for in the NAV radio? > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:29 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale I received an AntiSplatAero 3/4 inch prop wrench (http://antisplataero.com/Prop_Wrench.html) as a gift and I already had one, so I'll sell an unused brand spankin' new one to the first lucky stiff that emails me off-list. $60 shipped to any of the lower 48. $69.99 + $5 shipping on their website, so this is $14.99 off if you were planning on getting one. -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:10:33 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas I have an Archer style antenna (we mad ours) in both wing tips so I can flip between the two to get perfectly centered. :-). I just got my 200 Hp IO-360 to run LOP and got 152 KTAS at 5.8 GPH with a little tail wind I was getting 32 MPG. Yahoo! Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:48 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas No worries, Ed, all you do is fly 15' over to the left or right a little. :) You go try flying the approach to 15' lateral accuracy and let me know when you've got it perfected. :) (sorry, couldn't resist...especially since it was you) Tim No not archive, no way, no how. On 12/5/2012 1:38 PM, Ed Kranz wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but if you are using a wingtip Bob > Archer antenna for GS/LOC, would your position be offset by the 15' or > so that the antenna is out from the centerline of the plane? > > Is this something that you can compensate for in the NAV radio? > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:24 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: "Bob Turner" Ed is correct. I put the antenna in the left wing tip so I am 15' to the right of the approach lights, making them easier to see out my (left) window!! -:) -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389926#389926 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale From: pilotdds i will take it if avaliable let me know how to pay -----Original Message----- From: Sean Stephens Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 12:07 pm Subject: RV10-List: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale I received an AntiSplatAero 3/4 inch prop wrench (http://antisplataero.com/Prop_Wrench.html) as a gift and I already had one, so I'll sell an unused brand spankin' new one to the first lucky stiff that emails me off-list. $60 shipped to any of the lower 48. $69.99 + $5 shipping on their website, so this is $14.99 off if you were planning on getting one. -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:38:09 PM PST US From: John MacCallum Subject: RE: RV10-List: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale HI Sean, I'll take it if you will send it to Australia. US Post International express postage works well for me and I can send you The money via Paypal. Cheers John MacCallum VH-DUU RV 10 # 41016 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 7:06 AM Subject: RV10-List: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale I received an AntiSplatAero 3/4 inch prop wrench (http://antisplataero.com/Prop_Wrench.html) as a gift and I already had one, so I'll sell an unused brand spankin' new one to the first lucky stiff that emails me off-list. $60 shipped to any of the lower 48. $69.99 + $5 shipping on their website, so this is $14.99 off if you were planning on getting one. -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: Ed Kranz Good point, Tim. I had a hard enough time keeping your plane in the HITS boxes! On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > No worries, Ed, all you do is fly 15' over to the left or right > a little. :) You go try flying the approach to 15' lateral > accuracy and let me know when you've got it perfected. :) > (sorry, couldn't resist...especially since it was you) > > Tim > No not archive, no way, no how. > > > On 12/5/2012 1:38 PM, Ed Kranz wrote: > >> This might be a stupid question, but if you are using a wingtip Bob >> Archer antenna for GS/LOC, would your position be offset by the 15' or >> so that the antenna is out from the centerline of the plane? >> >> Is this something that you can compensate for in the NAV radio? >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:26:29 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Glideslope Antennas I used the Comant that others have noted and it is mounted under the horizontal stab on the bottom of the tailcone. I have a splitter installed so that I can use it for the VOR/ILS/GS on both my SL-30 and my 430W. Works great. I can receive vor's on the SL-30 at 90 to 100 nm and usually about 60 nm on the 430W. ILS and GS reception is excellent on both. David Maib 40559 Flying 600 hours. On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Phillip Perry wrote: I haven't seen much discussion about the location for glideslope antennas and I'm going to need to make that decision sometime soon. What seems to be the standard choice for antenna type and placement? Also what type of results are you seeing? Thanks, Phil #40750 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:51 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: New AntiSplat Prop Wrench For Sale The prop wrench has been sold. -Sean On 12/5/12 2:05 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > I received an AntiSplatAero 3/4 inch prop wrench > (http://antisplataero.com/Prop_Wrench.html) as a gift and I already > had one, so I'll sell an unused brand spankin' new one to the first > lucky stiff that emails me off-list. > > $60 shipped to any of the lower 48. $69.99 + $5 shipping on their > website, so this is $14.99 off if you were planning on getting one. > > -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:53 PM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas Me too. The Archer is shared by a G430 and SL30. Works fine. Only use it for practice - in actual I'm 100% GPS. I used an Archer for my Com2. I don't recommend doing that. When my Com1 went intermittent (probably from an electrical storm) I found my Com2 didn't work well enough to function as my primary Com. Since this happened 3 legs from home, I had to swap antennas so my remaining com was using a Comant whip. (Thanks again Kelly!) The archer Com antenna is gone and a 2nd whip is now on my belly. I went back and verified that the Archer Nav antenna performed well enough approach work - it did. VOR reception varied side to side per the findings by other posters. I did follow the Archer installation instructions to a "T". The Com works, just not good enough for a primary radio. And I learned that if it won't do primary, then it really isn't a full backup. do not archive On 12/5/2012 2:27 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > > Me too. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:00 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas > > > I used the Bob Archer VOR wingtip antenna and the splitter mentioned below. Works great. > > Marcus > 40286 > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas From: Phillip Perry I just got my panel in from Aerotronics last Friday and hadn't had a chance to dig through it closely yet. Once I got home tonight, I looked a little more closely at the GTN750 and SL30. Viola, there it was. The splitter is already in place and connected to both radios. Now I just have to connect the coax from the cat whiskers and I'm done. What started off as a minor head scratcher turned into a remarkably simple issue. Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction. By the way, the panel looks even better in person than it does in pictures. It exceeded my expectations by a long shot. Can't wait to put electrons into it a few months from now. Phil On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Bill Watson wrote: > > Me too. The Archer is shared by a G430 and SL30. Works fine. Only use > it for practice - in actual I'm 100% GPS. > > I used an Archer for my Com2. I don't recommend doing that. When my Com1 > went intermittent (probably from an electrical storm) I found my Com2 > didn't work well enough to function as my primary Com. Since this happened > 3 legs from home, I had to swap antennas so my remaining com was using a > Comant whip. (Thanks again Kelly!) > > The archer Com antenna is gone and a 2nd whip is now on my belly. > > I went back and verified that the Archer Nav antenna performed well enough > approach work - it did. VOR reception varied side to side per the findings > by other posters. > > I did follow the Archer installation instructions to a "T". The Com > works, just not good enough for a primary radio. And I learned that if it > won't do primary, then it really isn't a full backup. > > do not archive > > On 12/5/2012 2:27 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > >> >> Me too. >> >> Robin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@**matronics.com[mailto: >> owner-rv10-list-**server@matronics.com] >> On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper >> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:00 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Glideslope Antennas >> >> >> I used the Bob Archer VOR wingtip antenna and the splitter mentioned >> below. Works great. >> >> Marcus >> 40286 >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.