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Fri 12/07/12


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 03:37 AM - hi (millstees@ameritech.net)
     2. 01:02 PM - Re: Delayed tail cone attaching? (rv10flyer)
     3. 01:28 PM - Grass runway operation (Mike Whisky)
     4. 02:15 PM - Re: Grass runway operation (Marcus Cooper)
     5. 02:53 PM - Re: Grass runway operation (Robin Marks)
     6. 03:14 PM - Re: Grass runway operation (Michael Kraus)
     7. 03:30 PM - Re: Grass runway operation (Ron B.)
     8. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: Grass runway operation (Seano)
     9. 10:56 PM - Re: Grass runway operation (rv10flyer)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:37:58 AM PST US
    From: millstees@ameritech.net
    Subject: hi
    http://megabiznews.com/friends/friends.links.php?xuk&ean&zmdx


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    Time: 01:02:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Delayed tail cone attaching?
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com>
    Follow the plans. There are many structural reasons why aircraft are assembled in a certain order. You'll need a minimum of 23' X23' inside garage wall dimensions without a center support post to have room to work with engine/prop on and HS/VS off. I spent the last 100 hrs with final assembly at the airport. Good luck with the house search and -10 build. If you can find a house with the electrical panel in the garage...all the better. Nice for air compressor, heating or a/c and lighting. -------- Wayne G. 12/01/2011 TT= 95 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390031#390031


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    Time: 01:28:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Grass runway operation
    From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Hi, For those who are flying in and out of grass runways could you please share ground roll for T/O and landing distance at gross weight. Vans states on there website 500ft/650ft but I guess that's on paved runways. Has anyone experience how terra grid (50% coverage) of grass runway influences T/O distance. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior &amp; finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390034#390034


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    Time: 02:15:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Grass runway operation
    From: Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com>
    While I don't know the answer to your question, I suspect it is not significantly different given the impressive T/O performance (landing should be the same or better since we don't brake too hard). The biggest consideration operating on grass is the close tolerance between wheel pant and wheel, you might want to do a search of the archives if nobody has any direct comments. Marcus 40286 On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:28 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: Hi, For those who are flying in and out of grass runways could you please share ground roll for T/O and landing distance at gross weight. Vans states on there website 500ft/650ft but I guess that's on paved runways. Has anyone experience how terra grid (50% coverage) of grass runway influences T/O distance. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior &amp; finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390034#390034


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    Time: 02:53:49 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: Grass runway operation
    Landing on grass is not always same or better. Grass can hold moisture and power braking NOT suggested. Vans posted landing distance includes liberal use of brakes. Robin Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote: While I don't know the answer to your question, I suspect it is not significantly different given the impressive T/O performance (landing should be the same or better since we don't brake too hard). The biggest consideration operating on grass is the close tolerance between wheel pant and wheel, you might want to do a search of the archives if nobody has any direct comments. Marcus 40286 On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:28 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: Hi, For those who are flying in and out of grass runways could you please share ground roll for T/O and landing distance at gross weight. Vans states on there website 500ft/650ft but I guess that's on paved runways. Has anyone experience how terra grid (50% coverage) of grass runway influences T/O distance. Thanks Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior &amp; finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390034#390034


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    Time: 03:14:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Grass runway operation
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    I fly off of grass almost exclusively. While I have never measured actual take off distance at max gross, I can tell you it is significantly reduced when you take off with half flaps. -Mike Kraus RV-10 flying >100 hours Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2012, at 4:28 PM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote: > > Hi, > For those who are flying in and out of grass runways could you please share ground roll for T/O and landing distance at gross weight. > Vans states on there website 500ft/650ft but I guess that's on paved runways. > > Has anyone experience how terra grid (50% coverage) of grass runway influences T/O distance. > > Thanks > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (interior &amp; finishing) > #511 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390034#390034 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:30:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Grass runway operation
    From: "Ron B." <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca>
    My strip is 2200' and I'm off in less than half at gross. If it's soft and wet I will use half. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390040#390040


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    Time: 04:58:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Grass runway operation
    From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com>
    Ron, what is your elevation? Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2012, at 16:30, "Ron B." <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca> wrote: > > My strip is 2200' and I'm off in less than half at gross. If it's soft and wet I will use half. > Ron > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390040#390040 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:56:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Grass runway operation
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@gmail.com>
    The only time I get off on pavement in 500' is solo, full fuel and below 50F at 663' MSL. At gross with the family and 3* flap setting during the hot humid summer we are off around 2,000'. Winter maybe 1,000'. On wet, soggy grass at Triple Tree, SC this summer departing uphill rwy 3, at gross with 18* flaps we were off in 2,000. I usually land at 4* glideslope, 70 kias at gross, touchdown 100-200' past the numbers, don't touch the brakes, roll out 2,000' before turning off at midfield. I raise the nose and let it fly off when it is ready, usually about 65 kts at gross. I hardly use brakes on any landing, even if I have to taxi 500' farther back to the ramp. -------- Wayne G. 12/01/2011 TT= 95 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390051#390051




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