---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/15/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:20 AM - Re: Mounting Aerosport panel (rvdave) 2. 08:32 AM - Cowl Hinge Pins (Sean Stephens) 3. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Mounting Aerosport panel (Kelly McMullen) 4. 01:40 PM - Re: Cowl Hinge Pins (Carl Froehlich) 5. 03:10 PM - Re: Cowl Hinge Pins (Sean Stephens) 6. 05:14 PM - Bottom wing skin J-stiffeners (Bill and Tami Britton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:49 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Mounting Aerosport panel From: "rvdave" Ok, sounds like a good idea to enlarge the holes to make more space around the CF panel to glare shield . I have the instructions for the panel but am not quite understanding how the depth or forward edges of panel support frame should fit to CF panel. Should frame sit "into" or "behind" CF panel? The drawing shows taking material off of support frame at the outboard edges. If it sits into the panel, the CF sits an eighth to three sixteenths proud of the frame. -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390480#390480 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:35 AM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: Cowl Hinge Pins Anyone know a source for the stainless hinge pins besides Vans? I don't understand why they don't provide enough for the side hinges between the top and bottom cowl. Page 47-8 says they are available from the accessories catalog. I'd think they are more than just accessories. I understand that they weld on a retainer for these "accessories", but one would think that it would be supplied in the kit. -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Mounting Aerosport panel From: Kelly McMullen The support panel screws up tight to the back of the CF panel. The support panel has to sit about 1/8" low to allow room for the CF inside the upper cowl deck. I can get you some photos tomorrow when I go to hangar. On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:19 AM, rvdave wrote: > > Ok, sounds like a good idea to enlarge the holes to make more space around > the CF panel to glare shield . I have the instructions for the panel but > am not quite understanding how the depth or forward edges of panel support > frame should fit to CF panel. Should frame sit "into" or "behind" CF panel? > The drawing shows taking material off of support frame at the outboard > edges. If it sits into the panel, the CF sits an eighth to three sixteenths > proud of the frame. > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 flying > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390480#390480 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:28 PM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cowl Hinge Pins Sean, I purchased hinge pin material from ACS - this may be the right number but you need to check: MS20253-P2-7200 HINGE PIN SS 03-49000. I see no advantage to stainless steel over the standard steel pins. I got (2) 6' lengths as I install the cowl side pins from inside the cockpit. The pins run through a piece of 1/4" aluminum tubing on the cabin side of the firewall that acts as a conduit. I took a 3/16" round head rivet and drilled a 1/16" hole through the center, then countersunk the shank end, cut off the head, and JB welded the rivet into one end of the 1/4" tubing (countersunk part to the inside so the pin is directed into the 1/16" hole). A 3/16" hole is drilled into the firewall such that the rivet shank pokes through 1/4" or so, in a spot such that the pin is directed into the first eyelet on the cowl. This is really a lot simpler than it sounds. The end result is with a few AN fittings you have lockable side pins that don't poke through the front of the cowl. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Cowl Hinge Pins Anyone know a source for the stainless hinge pins besides Vans? I don't understand why they don't provide enough for the side hinges between the top and bottom cowl. Page 47-8 says they are available from the accessories catalog. I'd think they are more than just accessories. I understand that they weld on a retainer for these "accessories", but one would think that it would be supplied in the kit. -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:20 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cowl Hinge Pins Thanks Carl. I assumed it was "required" to replace them with the part mentioned in the plans, but I am now seeing that is not the case. I shamelessly stole the pin retainer from Mike (http://www.azcloudflyer.com/finish/IMG_0298.jpg). And it seems the pins that come with the hinges will be fine. -Sean #40303 On 12/15/12 3:39 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > Sean, > > I purchased hinge pin material from ACS - this may be the right number but > you need to check: MS20253-P2-7200 HINGE PIN SS 03-49000. I see no > advantage to stainless steel over the standard steel pins. > > I got (2) 6' lengths as I install the cowl side pins from inside the > cockpit. The pins run through a piece of 1/4" aluminum tubing on the cabin > side of the firewall that acts as a conduit. I took a 3/16" round head > rivet and drilled a 1/16" hole through the center, then countersunk the > shank end, cut off the head, and JB welded the rivet into one end of the > 1/4" tubing (countersunk part to the inside so the pin is directed into the > 1/16" hole). A 3/16" hole is drilled into the firewall such that the rivet > shank pokes through 1/4" or so, in a spot such that the pin is directed into > the first eyelet on the cowl. > > This is really a lot simpler than it sounds. The end result is with a few > AN fittings you have lockable side pins that don't poke through the front of > the cowl. > > Carl > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:32 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Cowl Hinge Pins > > > Anyone know a source for the stainless hinge pins besides Vans? I don't > understand why they don't provide enough for the side hinges between the top > and bottom cowl. Page 47-8 says they are available from the accessories > catalog. I'd think they are more than just accessories. I understand that > they weld on a retainer for these "accessories", but one would think that it > would be supplied in the kit. > > -Sean #40303 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:42 PM PST US From: "Bill and Tami Britton" Subject: RV10-List: Bottom wing skin J-stiffeners Quick, simple question. The instructions state that the outboard bottom wing skin overlaps the inboard bottom skin but doesn't mention how the stiffeners overlap. Do I assume it's the same as the skins (which is what I've done up to this point) or does it really matter??? 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