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1. 06:02 AM - Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna Installat (bill.peyton)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna Installat (Kelly McMullen)
3. 09:31 AM - Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna Installat (billz)
4. 05:26 PM - N433RV First Flight (hotwheels)
5. 05:43 PM - Re: N433RV First Flight (Bob-TCW)
6. 06:34 PM - Re: N433RV First Flight (Les Kearney)
7. 06:43 PM - Re: N433RV First Flight (Byron Gillespie)
8. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna Installat (Kelly McMullen)
9. 08:21 PM - Re: N433RV First Flight (hotwheels)
10. 08:34 PM - Re: Re: N433RV First Flight (Kelly McMullen)
11. 09:38 PM - Re: Re: N433RV First Flight (Dave Saylor)
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna Installat |
The bottom of the door frame is close to level flight. For the cabin cover the
closest area to level flight is directly between the doors. Unfortunately, Vans
does not want you mounting anything there from a roll-over strutural integrity.
This is where I put both my GPS antennas. There are wood stringer stifferners
buried in the glass that run fore and aft. If you mount the overhead
you won't be able to get to the coax unless it is mounted above one of the removable
panels. Ground planes are not required for GPS antennas to function, I
am not sure about TCAS. I believe Sean (strasnuts) has the same system you are
inquiring about.
Bill
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WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna |
Installat
Garmin actually does call for a ground plane for their WAAS GPS antennas.
On 12/30/2012 7:01 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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> Ground planes are not required for GPS antennas to function, I am not sure
about TCAS. I believe Sean (strasnuts) has the same system you are inquiring
about.
> Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna Installat |
I've just completed antenna installations on my cabin top. After lengthy discussions
with Folks who have installed the GTS800 as well as others, concerning
the various GPS antennas, this is what I decided to do.
1. The GPS antennas do not need an additional ground plane. The base of the antenna
provides an adequate ground plane. However, I did run some #10 wire between
the antenna mounting fasteners and to my common ground point (on the firewall),
to provide lightning protection.
2. I have the Garmin GPS (WAAS) antenna in front with the combined (experimental)GPS/WAAS
antenna behind it. I'm planning to run these three wires forward,
through the windshield support post.
3. I decided to mount the GTS 800 antenna behind the doors. After seeing the installation
on the Cessna Corvalis at Oshkosh, it seemed like a good place. The
10 deg. angle exceeds the recommended angle (5 deg.), but shouldn't be a major
performance issue. It seems to work for Cessna. This also provides a short
cable run from the antenna to the GTS 800 processor, mounted behind the baggage
compartment. I installed and 18 in diameter ground plane under the GTS 800
antenna. I used aluminum window screen. The antenna is bolted to a mounting
plate (with nutplates). The mounting plate is bolted (and epoxied) to the
cabin top and I used conductive paste between the screen and the mounting plate.
Attached are some pictures that should provide more insight into the process.
BTW, the ground plane screen is covered with epoxy to fair it into the cabin top.
The picture shows the first of many coats of epoxy.
I hope this is a help with your airplane.
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| Subject: | N433RV First Flight |
N433RV RV-10 made her maiden flight on December 29th after nearly 9 years of building.
My -10 is powered by a rebuilt Lyco IO-540, 2-blade Hartzell blended airfoil propeller,
dual Light Speed electronic ignitions, dual B&C alternators and B&C starter.
The panel includes Grand Rapids HXes and EIS, PS9000 Audio, Garmin 430W,
SL30 and GTX330 xponder, TruTrak autopilot, Navworx UAT and a few steam gauges.
It's a very nice ride.
The plane has amazing performance. KFLY is at 6800' MSL and I was at pattern altitude
before reaching the end of the runway. The controls were very responsive
and the plane did exactly what I asked. I found that my -10 has a heavy left
wing as has been reported by others. However, that should be easily remedied
by adding some aileron trim. Speaking of trim, the Final Inspection document stated
that "1/3 nose up travel" recommended for first flight. However, I found
that to be way too much (50 lbs of sand in the baggage compartment for W&B).
Neutral trim would have been a better choice - at least for me.
My first flight was cut short due to a fuel issue after about 30 minutes. Fortunately,
both pilot and plane made it safely back to the airport where I made a
surprising good landing for an RV rookie. I can hardly wait to get back in the
air after everything gets the once over.
Thanks to my family who put up with riveting, cutting and dust in our garage...
To the folks at Van's for providing a great design, to AlexD for quality transition
training, to numerous EAA Tech Counselor visits and to my builder buddies
(you know who you are!) and, of course, to tips provided by many of the folks
on this list........ I couldn't have made the journey without lots of help
from all of you!
Cheers,
Jay
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| Subject: | Re: N433RV First Flight |
Jay. Congratulations! Enjoy.
Bob Newman
N541RV
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 30, 2012, at 8:25 PM, "hotwheels" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> N433RV RV-10 made her maiden flight on December 29th after nearly 9 years of
building.
>
> My -10 is powered by a rebuilt Lyco IO-540, 2-blade Hartzell blended airfoil
propeller, dual Light Speed electronic ignitions, dual B&C alternators and B&C
starter. The panel includes Grand Rapids HXes and EIS, PS9000 Audio, Garmin 430W,
SL30 and GTX330 xponder, TruTrak autopilot, Navworx UAT and a few steam gauges.
It's a very nice ride.
>
> The plane has amazing performance. KFLY is at 6800' MSL and I was at pattern
altitude before reaching the end of the runway. The controls were very responsive
and the plane did exactly what I asked. I found that my -10 has a heavy left
wing as has been reported by others. However, that should be easily remedied
by adding some aileron trim. Speaking of trim, the Final Inspection document
stated that "1/3 nose up travel" recommended for first flight. However, I found
that to be way too much (50 lbs of sand in the baggage compartment for W&B).
Neutral trim would have been a better choice - at least for me.
>
> My first flight was cut short due to a fuel issue after about 30 minutes. Fortunately,
both pilot and plane made it safely back to the airport where I made
a surprising good landing for an RV rookie. I can hardly wait to get back in
the air after everything gets the once over.
>
> Thanks to my family who put up with riveting, cutting and dust in our garage...
To the folks at Van's for providing a great design, to AlexD for quality transition
training, to numerous EAA Tech Counselor visits and to my builder buddies
(you know who you are!) and, of course, to tips provided by many of the folks
on this list........ I couldn't have made the journey without lots of help
from all of you!
>
> Cheers,
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391255#391255
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0382_lr_671.jpg
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>
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| Subject: | Re: N433RV First Flight |
Hi Jay
Congrats on the first flight!
Cheers
Les
Sent from my iPhone
On 2012-12-30, at 6:25 PM, "hotwheels" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> N433RV RV-10 made her maiden flight on December 29th after nearly 9 years of
building.
>
> My -10 is powered by a rebuilt Lyco IO-540, 2-blade Hartzell blended airfoil
propeller, dual Light Speed electronic ignitions, dual B&C alternators and B&C
starter. The panel includes Grand Rapids HXes and EIS, PS9000 Audio, Garmin 430W,
SL30 and GTX330 xponder, TruTrak autopilot, Navworx UAT and a few steam gauges.
It's a very nice ride.
>
> The plane has amazing performance. KFLY is at 6800' MSL and I was at pattern
altitude before reaching the end of the runway. The controls were very responsive
and the plane did exactly what I asked. I found that my -10 has a heavy left
wing as has been reported by others. However, that should be easily remedied
by adding some aileron trim. Speaking of trim, the Final Inspection document
stated that "1/3 nose up travel" recommended for first flight. However, I found
that to be way too much (50 lbs of sand in the baggage compartment for W&B).
Neutral trim would have been a better choice - at least for me.
>
> My first flight was cut short due to a fuel issue after about 30 minutes. Fortunately,
both pilot and plane made it safely back to the airport where I made
a surprising good landing for an RV rookie. I can hardly wait to get back in
the air after everything gets the once over.
>
> Thanks to my family who put up with riveting, cutting and dust in our garage...
To the folks at Van's for providing a great design, to AlexD for quality transition
training, to numerous EAA Tech Counselor visits and to my builder buddies
(you know who you are!) and, of course, to tips provided by many of the folks
on this list........ I couldn't have made the journey without lots of help
from all of you!
>
> Cheers,
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391255#391255
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0382_lr_671.jpg
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N433RV First Flight |
Way to go. I know the feeling.
Any comments you care to share on the "fuel issue"? I always learn a lot from what
other folks find.
Byron
N253RV Flying (just need some paint)
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 30, 2012, at 8:25 PM, "hotwheels" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> N433RV RV-10 made her maiden flight on December 29th after nearly 9 years of
building.
>
> My -10 is powered by a rebuilt Lyco IO-540, 2-blade Hartzell blended airfoil
propeller, dual Light Speed electronic ignitions, dual B&C alternators and B&C
starter. The panel includes Grand Rapids HXes and EIS, PS9000 Audio, Garmin 430W,
SL30 and GTX330 xponder, TruTrak autopilot, Navworx UAT and a few steam gauges.
It's a very nice ride.
>
> The plane has amazing performance. KFLY is at 6800' MSL and I was at pattern
altitude before reaching the end of the runway. The controls were very responsive
and the plane did exactly what I asked. I found that my -10 has a heavy left
wing as has been reported by others. However, that should be easily remedied
by adding some aileron trim. Speaking of trim, the Final Inspection document
stated that "1/3 nose up travel" recommended for first flight. However, I found
that to be way too much (50 lbs of sand in the baggage compartment for W&B).
Neutral trim would have been a better choice - at least for me.
>
> My first flight was cut short due to a fuel issue after about 30 minutes. Fortunately,
both pilot and plane made it safely back to the airport where I made
a surprising good landing for an RV rookie. I can hardly wait to get back in
the air after everything gets the once over.
>
> Thanks to my family who put up with riveting, cutting and dust in our garage...
To the folks at Van's for providing a great design, to AlexD for quality transition
training, to numerous EAA Tech Counselor visits and to my builder buddies
(you know who you are!) and, of course, to tips provided by many of the folks
on this list........ I couldn't have made the journey without lots of help
from all of you!
>
> Cheers,
> Jay
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391255#391255
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0382_lr_671.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Final Installation & TCAS Antenna |
Installat
Once again, the Garmin GA-35 antenna recommends a ground plane. See
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=94658
Grounding the fasteners does not equal a ground plane.
On 12/30/2012 10:30 AM, billz wrote:
>
> I've just completed antenna installations on my cabin top. After lengthy discussions
with Folks who have installed the GTS800 as well as others, concerning
the various GPS antennas, this is what I decided to do.
>
> 1. The GPS antennas do not need an additional ground plane. The base of the
antenna provides an adequate ground plane. However, I did run some #10 wire between
the antenna mounting fasteners and to my common ground point (on the firewall),
to provide lightning protection.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N433RV First Flight |
Sure... I'll share. In preparation for landing, I turned the electric fuel pump
on and smelled fuel in the cockpit. Immediately turned off the fuel pump and
landed. Then engine stopped on the runway and I coasted off.
Removed cowl and tunnel covers back at the hangar. The tunnel was dry. However,
running the electric fuel pump resulted in fuel leakage at the low pressure input
fitting to the mechanical engine driven pump. It was loose. This after numerous
engine starts, taxi tests and run ups without leakage.
What's interesting is that nothing was obviously amiss until running the electric
pump. Maybe someone else has ideas about why that might be...
Just goes to show the value of putting a wrench on as much as possible before flight
and, of course, mentally preparing for engine out events.
Regards,
Jay
[quote="bgill1(at)mediastreamus.n"]Way to go. I know the feeling.
Any comments you care to share on the "fuel issue"? I always learn a lot from what
other folks find.
Byron
N253RV Flying (just need some paint)
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| Subject: | Re: N433RV First Flight |
You are fortunate. I had same situation in an injected certified plane,
and the mechanical pump sucked enough air through the loose fitting that
the engine quit. Only running the boost pump would restore power.
Fortunately I was within 10 nm of home aerodrome.
On 12/30/2012 9:20 PM, hotwheels wrote:
>
> Sure... I'll share. In preparation for landing, I turned the electric fuel pump
on and smelled fuel in the cockpit. Immediately turned off the fuel pump and
landed. Then engine stopped on the runway and I coasted off.
>
> Removed cowl and tunnel covers back at the hangar. The tunnel was dry. However,
running the electric fuel pump resulted in fuel leakage at the low pressure
input fitting to the mechanical engine driven pump. It was loose. This after
numerous engine starts, taxi tests and run ups without leakage.
>
> What's interesting is that nothing was obviously amiss until running the electric
pump. Maybe someone else has ideas about why that might be...
>
> Just goes to show the value of putting a wrench on as much as possible before
flight and, of course, mentally preparing for engine out events.
>
> Regards,
> Jay
>
>
> [quote="bgill1(at)mediastreamus.n"]Way to go. I know the feeling.
>
> Any comments you care to share on the "fuel issue"? I always learn a lot from
what other folks find.
>
> Byron
> N253RV Flying (just need some paint)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391262#391262
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N433RV First Flight |
I think the boost pump was pressurizing that particular junction. With the
boost pump off, that fitting would be under negative pressure, and Kelly's
scenario would be the norm. One way to check for that loose fitting would
be a leak check with the boost pump on--but I bet you've done that by now!
Glad everything worked out. We'd all like to hear some cut and dried
performance numbers from 6800 MSL this summer...I bet they're pretty good.
Dave
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:20 PM, hotwheels <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Sure... I'll share. In preparation for landing, I turned the electric fuel
> pump on and smelled fuel in the cockpit. Immediately turned off the fuel
> pump and landed. Then engine stopped on the runway and I coasted off.
>
> Removed cowl and tunnel covers back at the hangar. The tunnel was dry.
> However, running the electric fuel pump resulted in fuel leakage at the low
> pressure input fitting to the mechanical engine driven pump. It was loose.
> This after numerous engine starts, taxi tests and run ups without leakage.
>
> What's interesting is that nothing was obviously amiss until running the
> electric pump. Maybe someone else has ideas about why that might be...
>
> Just goes to show the value of putting a wrench on as much as possible
> before flight and, of course, mentally preparing for engine out events.
>
> Regards,
> Jay
>
>
> [quote="bgill1(at)mediastreamus.n"]Way to go. I know the feeling.
>
> Any comments you care to share on the "fuel issue"? I always learn a lot
> from what other folks find.
>
> Byron
> N253RV Flying (just need some paint)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=391262#391262
>
>
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