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1. 07:20 AM - Re: Cable runs (bill.peyton)
2. 12:13 PM - Re: Re: Cable runs (Sean Stephens)
3. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Cable runs (Linn)
4. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Cable runs (Rob Kermanj)
5. 01:14 PM - Re: Cable runs (bill.peyton)
6. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Cable runs (Kelly McMullen)
7. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: Cable runs (Bob-TCW)
8. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Cable runs (Sean Stephens)
9. 02:55 PM - Starter (Jesse Saint)
10. 03:25 PM - Re: Starter (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
11. 04:57 PM - Re: Starter (Kelly McMullen)
12. 11:05 PM - Re: Re: Another RV-10 down? (Dave Fritzsche (Building))
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I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve cover screw as the ignition
leads. I did not want to take the chance if an erroneous reading with
the egt. In reality, the egt lines are such low impedance that the chance of
it happening is slim. It was too easy to just use additional adel clamps...
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I'm curious what you guys did for the lip of the valve cover by the
screws. Did you add washers to lift up the contact area of the clamp to
clear the lip of the valve cover?
-Sean #40303 (finishing cowl)
On 1/13/13 9:19 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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> I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve cover screw as the
ignition leads. I did not want to take the chance if an erroneous reading with
the egt. In reality, the egt lines are such low impedance that the chance of
it happening is slim. It was too easy to just use additional adel clamps...
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On 1/13/2013 3:12 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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> I'm curious what you guys did for the lip of the valve cover by the
> screws. Did you add washers to lift up the contact area of the clamp
> to clear the lip of the valve cover?
Yes. Standard practice!
Linn
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> -Sean #40303 (finishing cowl)
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> On 1/13/13 9:19 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>> I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve cover screw
>> as the ignition leads. I did not want to take the chance if an
>> erroneous reading with the egt. In reality, the egt lines are such
>> low impedance that the chance of it happening is slim. It was too
>> easy to just use additional adel clamps...
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>> WA0SYV
>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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Yep, added washers.
On Jan 13, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
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> I'm curious what you guys did for the lip of the valve cover by the screws.
Did you add washers to lift up the contact area of the clamp to clear the lip
of the valve cover?
>
> -Sean #40303 (finishing cowl)
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> On 1/13/13 9:19 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>> I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve cover screw as the
ignition leads. I did not want to take the chance if an erroneous reading with
the egt. In reality, the egt lines are such low impedance that the chance
of it happening is slim. It was too easy to just use additional adel clamps...
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>> Bill
>> WA0SYV
>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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The new LYCOMING engines come with a bag of washers and screws that are longer
than the factory installed valve cover screws. The washers go under the clamps
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That is what I do Sean, to ensure the valve cover is secure and to give the
adel clamp a flat surface to rest on.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>wrote:
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> I'm curious what you guys did for the lip of the valve cover by the
> screws. Did you add washers to lift up the contact area of the clamp to
> clear the lip of the valve cover?
>
> -Sean #40303 (finishing cowl)
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> On 1/13/13 9:19 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>> I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve cover screw as
>> the ignition leads. I did not want to take the chance if an erroneous
>> reading with the egt. In reality, the egt lines are such low impedance
>> that the chance of it happening is slim. It was too easy to just use
>> additional adel clamps...
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>> Bill
>> WA0SYV
>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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Yes, two did it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 13, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote:
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> I'm curious what you guys did for the lip of the valve cover by the screws.
Did you add washers to lift up the contact area of the clamp to clear the lip
of the valve cover?
>
> -Sean #40303 (finishing cowl)
>
> On 1/13/13 9:19 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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>> I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve cover screw as the
ignition leads. I did not want to take the chance if an erroneous reading with
the egt. In reality, the egt lines are such low impedance that the chance
of it happening is slim. It was too easy to just use additional adel clamps...
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>> Bill
>> WA0SYV
>> Aviation Partners, LLC
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Thanks everyone. That's what I figured, but wanted to confirm.
-Sean
On 1/13/13 3:35 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> That is what I do Sean, to ensure the valve cover is secure and to
> give the adel clamp a flat surface to rest on.
>
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com
> <mailto:sean@stephensville.com>> wrote:
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> <sean@stephensville.com <mailto:sean@stephensville.com>>
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> I'm curious what you guys did for the lip of the valve cover by
> the screws. Did you add washers to lift up the contact area of
> the clamp to clear the lip of the valve cover?
>
> -Sean #40303 (finishing cowl)
>
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> On 1/13/13 9:19 AM, bill.peyton wrote:
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> <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net <mailto:peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>>
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> I ran mine in a separate clamp attached to the same valve
> cover screw as the ignition leads. I did not want to take the
> chance if an erroneous reading with the egt. In reality, the
> egt lines are such low impedance that the chance of it
> happening is slim. It was too easy to just use additional
> adel clamps...
>
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> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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Does anybody have a Skytec 149-12PM starter? I don't have a good way to chec
k this. I just need to verify that it fits/works with the 540 in the -10.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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You probably already know this but its not recommended for the 540 due to possible
kick back breakage.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
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From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:38:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Starter
Does anybody have a Skytec 149-12PM starter? I don't have a good way to check this.
I just need to verify that it fits/works with the 540 in the -10.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
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I have one on my Mooney. I don't recommend that model. It may or may not
clear baffling because the solenoid is mounted on the side. Either the
Skytec Nline starter or the Hartzell E Drive starter are better choices,
with lower current draw, more ability to overcome torque to get piston over
top of compression stroke.
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>wrote:
> Does anybody have a Skytec 149-12PM starter? I don't have a good way to
> check this. I just need to verify that it fits/works with the 540 in the
> -10.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
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| Subject: | Re: Another RV-10 down? |
If I remember correctly, early last year this list carried a discussion
regarding Lycoming raising prices of kits to the level that Aerosport
and others stopped building new engines. Thus it looks like that option
is off the table. Aerosport has a great reputation among the members of
my local EAA chapter. That is where I was going in about a year, but
now I have to rethink my options.
Dave
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Dave Fritzsche
40813
Puyallup, WA
Fuselage
On 1/11/2013 9:02 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Jerry didn't seem to have any lack of faith in Aerosport. That says a
> lot. If I had to order an engine today, that's where I'd go.
>
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
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> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>
> Actually, Scott and I are over 900. :)
>
> One of the reasons we went with Aerosport was the positive feedback
> on reliability. I actually trust them very much and have had
> nothing but a positive experience from them. I get the feeling that
> they will bend over backwards and go further than they even
> should be willing to, to support your engine. They've sent me
> seals and gaskets that I should have paid for, for free, and
> things like that. Over and above.
>
> I can tell you that on my engine, my experience with those
> copper crush gaskets hasn't always been positive. It seems that
> over time those can be prone to leakage. I had a leak on the
> right side of my engine that was fixed by replacing the copper
> crush gasket under my oil pressure adjuster on the right side.
>
> Certainly this isn't absolving the engine builder from
> any possibility of improper torquing or a faulty component
> causing an issue...nobody knows what happened yet. But,
> I'm just saying, I think there are far more happy customers
> of this one than disappointed ones. If you really want
> an eye opener, read the Lancair list for threads on the
> Performance Engines (Continental models) that they have, and
> what kinds of issues they have. That can be scary.
>
> It will be interesting to see what was the cause on this
> one....valve cover gasket? Copper crush gasket? Oil return
> line? Could have been a bunch of things....could also be
> an automatic quick/drain.
>
> We'll see.
> Tim
>
>
> On 1/11/2013 8:42 AM, Seano wrote:
>
> I actually thought the same thing, who wouldn't? It could
> have been a
> lot of other connections or accessories so we will have to
> wait to see
> what exactly happened. Just for reference, I have an Aerosport
> IO-540-N1A5 with 300 hours. Tim O and Scott S have them too
> with over
> 800 hours each.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard McBride <mailto:rick.mcbride@me.com
> <mailto:rick.mcbride@me.com>>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2013 5:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Another RV-10 down?
>
> Please disregard my previous post. I was having a
> conversation off
> the list but inadvertently sent it to the group. It's out of
> context and in no way a negative statement. Sorry.
>
> Rick
>
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Richard McBride
> <rick.mcbride@me.com <mailto:rick.mcbride@me.com>
> <mailto:rick.mcbride@me.com <mailto:rick.mcbride@me.com>>>
> wrote:
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> But did you notice where his engine came from?
>
> Rick
>
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Pascal
> <rv10flyer@live.com <mailto:rv10flyer@live.com>
> <mailto:rv10flyer@live.com
> <mailto:rv10flyer@live.com>>> wrote:
>
> Unlike some other 10 accidents Jerry did
> everything right. I
> recall doing the engine review by pulling the cowl
> after every
> flight and thinking it might be overkill, looks
> like Jerry did
> the same thing, so whatever caused that loss of
> oil pressure
> happened quickly and without any sign of it in his
> last
> inspection, recall that we can fly these planes
> with as a little
> as 2.75 quarts of oil, so at least 6 quarts
> drained out quickly
> (if that is what happened). Much can be learned
> from what
> happened. BTW, I flew into aqua caliente once, and
> only once,
> swore I would never go back there again. (gas was
> .15c cheaper a
> gallon) I got beat up from the steep terrain,
> high cross winds
> and high oil temperatures. What Jerry did in that
> terrain is
> amazing, one needs to see how tough that terrain
> is to set a
> plane down anywhere to understand the level of
> difficulty.
> Pascal
> *From:* Miller John <mailto:gengrumpy@aol.com
> <mailto:gengrumpy@aol.com>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:12 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Another RV-10 down?
> Hope Jerry will forward to the list what happened
> to his
> engine......
> grumpy
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