---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/19/13: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:08 AM - Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? (rv10flyer) 2. 02:01 PM - Re: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? (Sean Stephens) 3. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? (Rene) 4. 02:48 PM - Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Patrick Pulis) 5. 02:55 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (jim@JimVillani.com) 6. 04:25 PM - Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting (Carlos Trigo) 7. 04:27 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Patrick Pulis) 8. 04:54 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Bob Turner) 9. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Marcus Cooper) 10. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? (Roger Standley) 11. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Tim Olson) 12. 06:02 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Robin Marks) 13. 06:20 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (jim@JimVillani.com) 14. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Patrick Pulis) 15. 09:10 PM - Re: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Cooprv7) 16. 09:22 PM - Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Bob Turner) 17. 10:10 PM - Re: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location (Michael Kraus) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:20 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? From: "rv10flyer" Mine have not moved and bottom hinges have not cracked. All stock. -------- Wayne G. 12/01/2011 TT= 95 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392637#392637 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:54 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? Thanks for the input everyone. I have a feeling a lot has to do with how "perfect" you built those hinges. If you got them just right, the pin is more likely to move. If you are like me and you didn't get them exact, the pin is a little tight. So what I'm saying is that those of you who don't see them move probably didn't get them perfect. :) Ha! -Sean #40303 (oil door) On 1/19/13 10:07 AM, rv10flyer wrote: > > Mine have not moved and bottom hinges have not cracked. All stock. > > -------- > Wayne G. > 12/01/2011 > TT= 95 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392637#392637 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:58 PM PST US From: "Rene" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? I second that.....I am only half perfect. :) But the amount that the pin moves does not concern me...... Rene' N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? Thanks for the input everyone. I have a feeling a lot has to do with how "perfect" you built those hinges. If you got them just right, the pin is more likely to move. If you are like me and you didn't get them exact, the pin is a little tight. So what I'm saying is that those of you who don't see them move probably didn't get them perfect. :) Ha! -Sean #40303 (oil door) On 1/19/13 10:07 AM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> > > Mine have not moved and bottom hinges have not cracked. All stock. > > -------- > Wayne G. > 12/01/2011 > TT= 95 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392637#392637 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:56 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Patrick Pulis I'm looking for an appropriate spot to install the GPS antenna (puck teardrop style) for the Garmin unit and have read several posts of locations used by builders (i.e. cabin top, top of panel, top of coming before firewall and under the top cowl forward of the firewall. The Garmin GTN-750 GPS antenna requires a ground plane if installed on composites, which isn't a real problem (compared with to my TCAS mount challenge!). Is there any structural disadvantage of mounting the GPS antenna on the cabin top, as I'll need four attachment point (was thinking of using rivnuts and embedding them in the glass top and using a mesh ground plane under the GPS antenna. The main disadvantage of this installation is the you need to drill through the cabin top for the antenna cable! The other option is just to mount the antenna on the front panel, however are there any issues with interference from any other avionics if located here? I don't fancy mounting the antenna firewall forward! Your thoughts would be very much appreciated please. Warm regards Patrick On 18/01/2013, at 6:38 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > > Sean, > > If I owe you anything for the brackets or if you'd like the nylon ones back please let me know? > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 18/01/2013, at 2:28 AM, Seano wrote: > >> My new planearound anodized aluminum brackets are widened to accept bigger struts. The opening is 3/8" they work perfect for stock struts too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> 

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> > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: jim@JimVillani.com Firewall forward Works great!!! I have 3 mounted an a Vans RV12 mount. Great coverage... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Pulis Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location I'm looking for an appropriate spot to install the GPS antenna (puck teardrop style) for the Garmin unit and have read several posts of locations used by builders (i.e. cabin top, top of panel, top of coming before firewall and under the top cowl forward of the firewall. The Garmin GTN-750 GPS antenna requires a ground plane if installed on composites, which isn't a real problem (compared with to my TCAS mount challenge!). Is there any structural disadvantage of mounting the GPS antenna on the cabin top, as I'll need four attachment point (was thinking of using rivnuts and embedding them in the glass top and using a mesh ground plane under the GPS antenna. The main disadvantage of this installation is the you need to drill through the cabin top for the antenna cable! The other option is just to mount the antenna on the front panel, however are there any issues with interference from any other avionics if located here? I don't fancy mounting the antenna firewall forward! Your thoughts would be very much appreciated please. Warm regards Patrick On 18/01/2013, at 6:38 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > > Sean, > > If I owe you anything for the brackets or if you'd like the nylon ones back please let me know? > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 18/01/2013, at 2:28 AM, Seano wrote: > >> My new planearound anodized aluminum brackets are widened to accept bigger struts. The opening is 3/8" they work perfect for stock struts too. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> 

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> > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:51 PM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RV10-List: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting Guys On page 10-21, the manual says "don't install any rivets in the F-1014 Aft Deck in the area of the F-1011 Bulkhead", which means that, at that time, one should not rivet the F-1011B Stop/Doubler and the F-1011D Attachment Bar Support Angle to the F-1014 Aft Deck. Although I don't know why, that's Ok. I suppose that that should be done when attaching the Empennage to the Tail cone, but I don't find anything on Section 11. And the problem is that I can't find anywhere else in the Manual when to rivet this parts, and with which rivets . Can someone please help? Carlos ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Patrick Pulis Any photos please Jim? Any heating issues with the antenna? Warm regards Patrick On 20/01/2013, at 9:24 AM, jim@jimvillani.com wrote: > > Firewall forward Works great!!! > I have 3 mounted an a Vans RV12 mount. > Great coverage... > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Pulis > Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:22:55 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location > > > I'm looking for an appropriate spot to install the GPS antenna (puck teardrop style) for the Garmin unit and have read several posts of locations used by builders (i.e. cabin top, top of panel, top of coming before firewall and under the top cowl forward of the firewall. > > The Garmin GTN-750 GPS antenna requires a ground plane if installed on composites, which isn't a real problem (compared with to my TCAS mount challenge!). > > Is there any structural disadvantage of mounting the GPS antenna on the cabin top, as I'll need four attachment point (was thinking of using rivnuts and embedding them in the glass top and using a mesh ground plane under the GPS antenna. The main disadvantage of this installation is the you need to drill through the cabin top for the antenna cable! > > The other option is just to mount the antenna on the front panel, however are there any issues with interference from any other avionics if located here? > > I don't fancy mounting the antenna firewall forward! > > Your thoughts would be very much appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 18/01/2013, at 6:38 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > >> >> Sean, >> >> If I owe you anything for the brackets or if you'd like the nylon ones back please let me know? >> >> Warm regards >> >> Patrick >> >> On 18/01/2013, at 2:28 AM, Seano wrote: >> >>> My new planearound anodized aluminum brackets are widened to accept bigger struts. The opening is 3/8" they work perfect for stock struts too. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> 

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>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:14 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: "Bob Turner" Mine is on top behind the baggage area, on the metal tailcone so the ground plane is a non issue. It has never failed to pull in plenty of satellites. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392672#392672 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Marcus Cooper I have the same location, same great results. Marcus do not archive On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:53 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote: Mine is on top behind the baggage area, on the metal tailcone so the ground plane is a non issue. It has never failed to pull in plenty of satellites. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:09 PM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? We need to be careful as to what we consider "perfect". Some might consider perfect to be that the stress on each eye-let on each of the six hinges to be the same and carrying their fair share of the load. That being the case, the shorter hinge pins would be easier to pull than the longer hinge pins. Its Saturday night...gee, I wish the wife felt better so we could go out instead of being totally irrelevant on this list... ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Stephens To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:01 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? > Thanks for the input everyone. I have a feeling a lot has to do with how "perfect" you built those hinges. If you got them just right, the pin is more likely to move. If you are like me and you didn't get them exact, the pin is a little tight. So what I'm saying is that those of you who don't see them move probably didn't get them perfect. :) Ha! -Sean #40303 (oil door) On 1/19/13 10:07 AM, rv10flyer wrote: > > > Mine have not moved and bottom hinges have not cracked. All stock. > > -------- > Wayne G. > 12/01/2011 > TT= 95 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392637#392637 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Tim Olson Same here too. Tim On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > > I have the same location, same great results. > > Marcus > > do not archive > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:53 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote: > > > Mine is on top behind the baggage area, on the metal tailcone so the ground plane is a non issue. It has never failed to pull in plenty of satellites. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:45 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location I have two Garmin GPS antenna firewall forward on the 8A and it works well. The only issue is Garmin suggests 6" separation and staggered from what I am told. No way I would put them on my dash. Just too in your face. I try to keep th e dash completely free of items. Robin [cid:image007.jpg@01CDF66F.1E97A5B0][cid:image008.jpg@01CDF66F.1E97A5B0][ci d:image009.jpg@01CDF66F.1E97A5B0] -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location --> > Any photos please Jim? Any heating issues with the antenna? Warm regards Patrick On 20/01/2013, at 9:24 AM, jim@jimvillani.com wr ote: .com> > > Firewall forward Works great!!! > I have 3 mounted an a Vans RV12 mount. > Great coverage... > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Pulis > > Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:22:55 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location > > --> > > > I'm looking for an appropriate spot to install the GPS antenna (puck tear drop style) for the Garmin unit and have read several posts of locations us ed by builders (i.e. cabin top, top of panel, top of coming before firewall and under the top cowl forward of the firewall. > > The Garmin GTN-750 GPS antenna requires a ground plane if installed on c omposites, which isn't a real problem (compared with to my TCAS mount chall enge!). > > Is there any structural disadvantage of mounting the GPS antenna on the c abin top, as I'll need four attachment point (was thinking of using rivnuts and embedding them in the glass top and using a mesh ground plane under t he GPS antenna. The main disadvantage of this installation is the you need to drill through the cabin top for the antenna cable! > > The other option is just to mount the antenna on the front panel, however are there any issues with interference from any other avionics if located here? > > I don't fancy mounting the antenna firewall forward! > > Your thoughts would be very much appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 18/01/2013, at 6:38 AM, Patrick Pulis > wrote: > >> --> > >> >> Sean, >> >> If I owe you anything for the brackets or if you'd like the nylon ones b ack please let me know? >> >> Warm regards >> >> Patrick >> >> On 18/01/2013, at 2:28 AM, Seano > wrote: >> >>> My new planearound anodized aluminum brackets are widened to accept big ger struts. The opening is 3/8" they work perfect for stock struts too. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> 


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>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:20:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: jim@JimVillani.com I will get some Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Pulis Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location Any photos please Jim? Any heating issues with the antenna? Warm regards Patrick On 20/01/2013, at 9:24 AM, jim@jimvillani.com wrote: > > Firewall forward Works great!!! > I have 3 mounted an a Vans RV12 mount. > Great coverage... > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Pulis > Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:22:55 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Garmin GPS Antenna Location > > > I'm looking for an appropriate spot to install the GPS antenna (puck teardrop style) for the Garmin unit and have read several posts of locations used by builders (i.e. cabin top, top of panel, top of coming before firewall and under the top cowl forward of the firewall. > > The Garmin GTN-750 GPS antenna requires a ground plane if installed on composites, which isn't a real problem (compared with to my TCAS mount challenge!). > > Is there any structural disadvantage of mounting the GPS antenna on the cabin top, as I'll need four attachment point (was thinking of using rivnuts and embedding them in the glass top and using a mesh ground plane under the GPS antenna. The main disadvantage of this installation is the you need to drill through the cabin top for the antenna cable! > > The other option is just to mount the antenna on the front panel, however are there any issues with interference from any other avionics if located here? > > I don't fancy mounting the antenna firewall forward! > > Your thoughts would be very much appreciated please. > > Warm regards > > Patrick > > On 18/01/2013, at 6:38 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > >> >> Sean, >> >> If I owe you anything for the brackets or if you'd like the nylon ones back please let me know? >> >> Warm regards >> >> Patrick >> >> On 18/01/2013, at 2:28 AM, Seano wrote: >> >>> My new planearound anodized aluminum brackets are widened to accept bigger struts. The opening is 3/8" they work perfect for stock struts too. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> 

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>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Patrick Pulis Guys is your COMM antenna also mounted out back there too? Warm regards Patrick On 20/01/2013, at 12:19 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Same here too. > Tim > > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > >> >> I have the same location, same great results. >> >> Marcus >> >> do not archive >> On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:53 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote: >> >> >> Mine is on top behind the baggage area, on the metal tailcone so the ground plane is a non issue. It has never failed to pull in plenty of satellites. >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Cooprv7 My main comm antenna is on the bottom with a Bob Archer strip on the roof for comm 2. Marcus Do not archive Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2013, at 23:45, Patrick Pulis wrote: Guys is your COMM antenna also mounted out back there too? Warm regards Patrick On 20/01/2013, at 12:19 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Same here too. > Tim > > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > >> >> I have the same location, same great results. >> >> Marcus >> >> do not archive >> On Jan 19, 2013, at 7:53 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote: >> >> >> Mine is on top behind the baggage area, on the metal tailcone so the ground plane is a non issue. It has never failed to pull in plenty of satellites. >> >> -------- >> Bob Turner >> RV-10 QB ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:50 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: "Bob Turner" Com 1 on belly, com 2 is Archer clone in wingtip. Nav is Archer in other wingtip. Only antennas on top are gps and ELT. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392689#392689 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Garmin GPS Antenna Location From: Michael Kraus Comm 1 and 2 are on the belly underneath the seats for me. All my GPS anten nas (and GDL39) are under the cowl. All work great!! -Mike Kraus RV-4 sold :-( RV-10 flying :-) KitFox SS7 Radial building :-) On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:22 AM, "Bob Turner" wrote: > > Com 1 on belly, com 2 is Archer clone in wingtip. Nav is Archer in other w ingtip. Only antennas on top are gps and ELT. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392689#392689 > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >
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