RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/20/13


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:27 AM - Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer? (johngoodman)
     2. 09:34 AM - FW: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting (Carlos Trigo)
     3. 12:12 PM - Re: FW: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting (Kelly McMullen)
     4. 02:07 PM - Re: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting (Ron B.)
     5. 02:30 PM - Cabin Top Woes (Vernon Franklin)
     6. 02:48 PM - Re: Cabin Top Woes (John Trollinger)
     7. 03:10 PM - Re: Cabin Top Woes (tsts4)
     8. 03:54 PM - Re: Cabin Top Woes (Dave Saylor)
     9. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting (Kelly McMullen)
    10. 05:14 PM - Re: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting (Ron B.)
    11. 05:49 PM - Re: Cabin Top Woes (bill.peyton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:27:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vertical Lower Cowl Pin Retainer?
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    > So what I'm saying is that those of you who don't see them move probably > didn't get them perfect. Ha! OR, Maybe those of us who keep our props balanced and don't have nose shimmy, eliminated the vibration that causes the pins to move... [Wink] John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392700#392700


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    Time: 09:34:47 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: FW: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting
    Ok, boys, with the help of another -10 builder I just discovered that my manual doesn't have page 10-22. Behind page 10-21 my manual has "THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK" . L Arghh!! Just asked Van's to send me a new page 10-21 / page 10-22 sheet Back to riveting . Carlos From: Carlos Trigo [mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt] Sent: domingo, 20 de Janeiro de 2013 00:25 Subject: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting Guys On page 10-21, the manual says "don't install any rivets in the F-1014 Aft Deck in the area of the F-1011 Bulkhead", which means that, at that time, one should not rivet the F-1011B Stop/Doubler and the F-1011D Attachment Bar Support Angle to the F-1014 Aft Deck. Although I don't know why, that's Ok. I suppose that that should be done when attaching the Empennage to the Tail cone, but I don't find anything on Section 11. And the problem is that I can't find anywhere else in the Manual when to rivet this parts, and with which rivets . Can someone please help? Carlos


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    Time: 12:12:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Sent you the section 10 plans electronically, to your other email address. On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>wrote : > Ok, boys, with the help of another -10 builder I just discovered that my > manual doesn=92t have page 10-22.**** > > Behind page 10-21 my manual has =93THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK=94 =85 L** > ** > > Arghh!!**** > > ** ** > > Just asked Van=92s to send me a new page 10-21 / page 10-22 sheet**** > > ** ** > > Back to riveting =85**** > > ** ** > > Carlos **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Carlos Trigo [mailto:trigo@mail.telepac.pt] > *Sent:* domingo, 20 de Janeiro de 2013 00:25 > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting**** > > ** ** > > Guys**** > > ** ** > > On page 10-21, the manual says =93don=92t install any rivets in the F-101 4 Aft > Deck in the area of the F-1011 Bulkhead=94, which means that, at that tim e, > one should not rivet the F-1011B Stop/Doubler and the F-1011D Attachment > Bar Support Angle to the F-1014 Aft Deck. Although I don=92t know why, th at=92s > Ok.**** > > I suppose that that should be done when attaching the Empennage to the > Tail cone, but I don=92t find anything on Section 11.**** > > And the problem is that I can=92t find anywhere else in the Manual when t o > rivet this parts, and with which rivets =85**** > > ** ** > > Can someone please help?**** > > ** ** > > Carlos **** > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 02:07:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting
    From: "Ron B." <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca>
    Could you send me page 10-22 also as it's missing in my manual also. My e-mail address is ronbelliveau at eastlink dot ca. Thanks Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392762#392762


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    Time: 02:30:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Cabin Top Woes
    From: Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>
    I need some advice. I am trying to fit the cabin top, and it just wont fit into the door area. As you can see from the attached pics, I have a 37 1/16" space to work with. But if I sand the cabin top down that far, I am almost in the door channel. Did anyone else have to sand down this far? How far is to far to sand? Also, did anyone else's "scribe lines" seem completely random, and at times be almost 1/2" off completely? I have attached a picture example of that as well. [image: Inline image 3][image: Inline image 2][image: Inline image 1] -- Vernon Franklin


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    Time: 02:48:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin Top Woes
    From: John Trollinger <john@trollingers.com>
    Just keep sanding, it will eventually fit. I would go from side to side so that each side had about the same amount of materiel left when I was done. The scribe lines are almost meaning less. John On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com>wrote: > I need some advice. I am trying to fit the cabin top, and it just wont > fit into the door area. > > As you can see from the attached pics, I have a 37 1/16" space to work > with. But if I sand the cabin top down that far, I am almost in the door > channel. > > Did anyone else have to sand down this far? How far is to far to sand? > > Also, did anyone else's "scribe lines" seem completely random, and at > times be almost 1/2" off completely? I have attached a picture example of > that as well. > [image: Inline image 3][image: Inline image 2][image: Inline image 1] > > -- > Vernon Franklin >


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    Time: 03:10:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin Top Woes
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net>
    What John said. I was real surprised how much past the scribe lines I had to go on both the top and he doors to get everything to fit. It's tedious, but keep at it a little at a time. I got real good at being able to lift the top into place solo in order to do a fit check. -------- Todd Stovall aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, Purple Pilots, VAF, and RVairspace 728TT RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse, Finishing www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392769#392769


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    Time: 03:54:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin Top Woes
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    You're right, you might be taking a little of the back of the door frame off. That's normal. Just make it fit. Same is true for the bottom edge. It gets pretty thin. --Dave On Jan 20, 2013, at 14:30, Vernon Franklin <vernon.franklin@gmail.com> wrote: > I need some advice. I am trying to fit the cabin top, and it just wont fit into the door area. > > As you can see from the attached pics, I have a 37 1/16" space to work with. But if I sand the cabin top down that far, I am almost in the door channel. > > Did anyone else have to sand down this far? How far is to far to sand? > > Also, did anyone else's "scribe lines" seem completely random, and at times be almost 1/2" off completely? I have attached a picture example of that as well. > <image.jpeg><image.jpeg><image.jpeg> > > -- > Vernon Franklin


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    Time: 04:52:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Sent all of section 10 pdf. On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Ron B. <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca> wrote: > > Could you send me page 10-22 also as it's missing in my manual also. My > e-mail address is ronbelliveau at eastlink dot ca. > Thanks Ron > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392762#392762 > >


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    Time: 05:14:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aft-deck F-1011 Bulkhead riveting
    From: "Ron B." <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca>
    Thanks Kelly We made four copies of the entire manual so each partner would have a copy at home for study and reference. We used the original copy for the build at the hangar. In my copy page 10-22 is missing. I'm going to have to check the hangar copy and see if the item contained on page 10-22 are checked off and the fairing might have to be removed to confirm something wasn't missed. I cannot see four sets of eyes missing holes with no rivets, but this is why I follow these forums. " Did I do That" Thanks again Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392779#392779


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    Time: 05:49:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin Top Woes
    From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
    I attached some photos of mine after trimming. -------- Bill WA0SYV Aviation Partners, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392780#392780 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1281_193.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1280_156.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1289_114.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1266_602.jpg




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