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1. 05:43 AM - Re: Blown out Wheel pant (nukeflyboy)
2. 12:25 PM - Gear leg stiffeners (Bruce Johnson)
3. 12:34 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Linn)
4. 01:05 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Bruce Johnson)
5. 01:06 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Carl Froehlich)
6. 01:14 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Pascal)
7. 01:32 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Linn)
8. 01:33 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Bruce Johnson)
9. 01:35 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Jayrowe)
10. 01:45 PM - Baggage Area Weight (Bob Turner)
11. 01:49 PM - The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane (Jeff Carpenter)
12. 04:42 PM - Re: The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane (Kelly McMullen)
13. 04:51 PM - Re: The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane (Linn)
14. 04:54 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (Lew Gallagher)
15. 05:18 PM - Re: The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane (Robin Marks)
16. 08:00 PM - N880EE Exposed (Robin Marks)
17. 08:06 PM - Re: N880EE Exposed (Matt Dralle)
18. 08:07 PM - Re: N880EE Exposed (Pascal)
19. 09:48 PM - Re: Baggage Area Weight (rv10flyer)
20. 09:57 PM - Re: Gear leg stiffeners (rv10flyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Blown out Wheel pant |
Sean,
You are not alone. The same thing happened to me. The clearance on one side was
too small, about finger thickness, and the tire grabbed it. This can happen
without much notice either - I found it on a preflight. Don McDonald had cautioned
me about the minimal clearance and I filed it away for a future fix.
I was getting ready for my first flight and didn't want anything else in the way
at the moment. Then I forgot about it. Bit me around 70 hours.
I keep my mains at 42 pounds.
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Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - flying
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| Subject: | Gear leg stiffeners |
Does anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard about
?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until today. Ful
l fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my passenger and sti
ll had a shake and then landed without one. Took off again and it was just
a minute shake, landed with none.-Weird-after all these take offs and l
andings for it to start now. I am going to pull the fairings off and check
for other things, but while I am at it I might put the stiffeners on. Thank
s in advance-=0A=0ADo not archive=0ABruce Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
You might have nosegear shimmy ..... easy for someone on the ground to
see. If so, just tighten up the nose fork nut so that a spring scale
reads 25-30 Lbs when pulled at the axle. You may need to add Belleville
washers for more dampening. The washers 'wear in' a little after
initial tightening.
Linn
On 2/15/2013 3:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> Does anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard
> about?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until
> today. Full fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my
> passenger and still had a shake and then landed without one. Took off
> again and it was just a minute shake, landed with none. Weird after
> all these take offs and landings for it to start now. I am going to
> pull the fairings off and check for other things, but while I am at it
> I might put the stiffeners on. Thanks in advance
>
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
I'll double check, but it-sure-felt like it was the mains. Like I said
never happened before-=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:
Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday,
February 15, 2013 1:33 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners=0A
=0A=0AYou might have nosegear shimmy ..... easy for someone on the ground
to see.- If so, just tighten up the nose fork nut so that a spring scale
reads 25-30 Lbs when pulled at the axle.- You may need to add Belleville
washers for more dampening.- The washers 'wear in' a little after initial
tightening.=0ALinn=0A=0A=0AOn 2/15/2013 3:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:=0A
=0ADoes anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard ab
out?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until today.
Full fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my passenger and
still had a shake and then landed without one. Took off again and it was ju
st a minute shake, landed with none.-Weird-after all these take offs an
d landings for it to start now. I am going to pull the fairings off and che
ck for other things, but while I am at it I might put the stiffeners on. Th
anks in advance-=0A>=0A>=0A>Do not archive=0A>Bruce Johnson=0A>No virus f
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| Subject: | Gear leg stiffeners |
Yep - at 65 hours now and just did the third nose gear fork nut tighten. On
my 8A this eventually stabilized out so I just check it at each annual.
Carl
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners
You might have nosegear shimmy ..... easy for someone on the ground to see.
If so, just tighten up the nose fork nut so that a spring scale reads 25-30
Lbs when pulled at the axle. You may need to add Belleville washers for
more dampening. The washers 'wear in' a little after initial tightening.
Linn
On 2/15/2013 3:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Does anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard
about?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until today.
Full fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my passenger and
still had a shake and then landed without one. Took off again and it was
just a minute shake, landed with none. Weird after all these take offs and
landings for it to start now. I am going to pull the fairings off and check
for other things, but while I am at it I might put the stiffeners on. Thanks
in advance
Do not archive
Bruce Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
Bruce;
I just had the same situation last week. I added some air to the front
tire and verified the torque was right on the fork nut, but for some
reason the plane shakes at a certain speed when I taxi now. I thought it
was the taxiway, but than it occurred to me that I have been over the
same taxiway in the past without an issue, so I don=99t know why
it does it now, no issue on takeoff or landing, only when I do a taxi at
a job pace.
From: Bruce Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners
I'll double check, but it sure felt like it was the mains. Like I said
never happened before
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From: Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners
You might have nosegear shimmy ..... easy for someone on the ground to
see. If so, just tighten up the nose fork nut so that a spring scale
reads 25-30 Lbs when pulled at the axle. You may need to add Belleville
washers for more dampening. The washers 'wear in' a little after
initial tightening.
Linn
On 2/15/2013 3:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Does anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard
about?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until
today. Full fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my
passenger and still had a shake and then landed without one. Took off
again and it was just a minute shake, landed with none. Weird after all
these take offs and landings for it to start now. I am going to pull the
fairings off and check for other things, but while I am at it I might
put the stiffeners on. Thanks in advance
Do not archive
Bruce Johnson
No virus found in this message.
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
If you have nose gear shimmy and add air over your normal pressure,
you're setting yourself up for tire wear in the center treads.
When I was a baby pilot my mentor said to air up the tire so the outside
tread just lifts off the pavement. You don't have to measure the
pressure. It stands to reason that one tire pressure won't fit a plane
that weighs lots Vs. one that weighs little. This filling method has
worked for me.
If you have a problem with vibration on the ground, get an observer to
watch and see what's going on. Mains can have tracking problems, nose
can shimmy and both will suffer from out-of-balance conditions. You
really can't tell what's out of whack because both nose and mains
transmit their vibration to the fuselage .... and then to your butt.
Linn
On 2/15/2013 4:13 PM, Pascal wrote:
> Bruce;
> I just had the same situation last week. I added some air to the front
> tire and verified the torque was right on the fork nut, but for some
> reason the plane shakes at a certain speed when I taxi now. I thought
> it was the taxiway, but than it occurred to me that I have been over
> the same taxiway in the past without an issue, so I don=99t know
why it
> does it now, no issue on takeoff or landing, only when I do a taxi at
> a job pace.
> *From:* Bruce Johnson <mailto:bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 1:04 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners
> I'll double check, but it surefelt like it was the mains. Like I said
> never happened before
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> *From:* Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 1:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners
> You might have nosegear shimmy ..... easy for someone on the ground to
> see. If so, just tighten up the nose fork nut so that a spring scale
> reads 25-30 Lbs when pulled at the axle. You may need to add
> Belleville washers for more dampening. The washers 'wear in' a little
> after initial tightening.
> Linn
>
>
> On 2/15/2013 3:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>> Does anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard
>> about?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until
>> today. Full fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my
>> passenger and still had a shake and then landed without one. Took off
>> again and it was just a minute shake, landed with none. Weirdafter
>> all these take offs and landings for it to start now. I am going to
>> pull the fairings off and check for other things, but while I am at
>> it I might put the stiffeners on. Thanks in advance
>>
>> Do not archive
>> Bruce Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
Mine is about 45 mph on take off and landing, taxi is fine. And it shakes,
I almost aborted my take off this morning. When I first started flying it I
had heard about the slow leaks of the Van's tire and tried putting slime i
n them, that was fun. About 35 to 50 it gave a very interesting ride, needl
ess to say taking the slime out was way harder than putting it in. Lesson l
earned=C2-=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Pascal <rv10
flyer@live.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, February 15,
2013 2:13 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Gear leg stiffeners=0A =0A=0ABruce;
=0AI just had the same situation last week. I added some air to the front t
ire =0Aand verified the torque was right on the fork nut, but for some reas
on the plane =0Ashakes at a certain speed when I taxi now. I thought it was
the taxiway, but =0Athan it occurred to me that I have been over the same
taxiway in the past =0Awithout an issue, so I don=99t know why it doe
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dy have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard about?? I have
got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until today. Full fuel,
two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my passenger and still had a
shake and then landed without one. Took off again and it was just a minut
e shake, landed with none. Weirdafter all these take offs and landings fo
r it to start now. I am going to pull the fairings off and check for other
things, but while I am at it I might put the stiffeners on. Thanks in adv
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
Bruce: Make sure it's not the nose wheel. I have 360 hours and roughly ever
y 100 hours I get a hard shimmy. And each time the lateral torgue on the nos
e wheel castor had dropped to about 10lbs. Increasing it back to the require
d 25lbs cured the shimmy completely. Jay Rowe
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com> wrot
e:
> Does anybody have a picture handy of the wood stiffeners I have heard abou
t?? I have got 87 hrs on 151BJ and have never had a problem until today. Ful
l fuel, two 200lb guys and wow what a shake. I dropped my passenger and stil
l had a shake and then landed without one. Took off again and it was just a m
inute shake, landed with none. Weird after all these take offs and landings f
or it to start now. I am going to pull the fairings off and check for other t
hings, but while I am at it I might put the stiffeners on. Thanks in advance
>
> Do not archive
> Bruce Johnson
>
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| Subject: | Baggage Area Weight |
The paperwork from Vans that came with my final kit recommended a maximum of 150
lbs in the baggage area.
But I see Vans' web site now says 100 lbs maximum.
Anyone know when this change happened? Or why?
Bob
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane |
... now on sale for 162.99
Disclaimer clearly states "not for aircraft use"
I'll take my chances.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
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| Subject: | Re: The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane |
So only use it to pick up engines, not aircraft. ;-)
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>wrote:
> ... now on sale for 162.99
>
> Disclaimer clearly states "not for aircraft use"
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> I'll take my chances.
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> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
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| Subject: | Re: The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane |
The lawyers are taking over. I buy paint stripper .... brand name
'Aircraft Stripper'. The small print: 'Not for use on aircraft'. So sad.
Linn
On 2/15/2013 7:41 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> So only use it to pick up engines, not aircraft. ;-)
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Carpenter
> <jeff@westcottpress.com <mailto:jeff@westcottpress.com>> wrote:
>
> ... now on sale for 162.99
>
> Disclaimer clearly states "not for aircraft use"
>
>
> I'll take my chances.
>
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> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
Hey RV10flyer,
Another thought on your slow taxi shake ... have you checked to see if one of your
brake pads is dragging? Warped rotor? Flat spot on tire (landed with brake
on)? I found that sometimes the right brake pedal on the co-pilot's side wasn't
totally releasing, causing that brake to drag (others have solved this with
springs or re-drilling the brake pedal hinge rod holes to free it up). To
test, you have to jack it up and spin it by hand. It just takes a tiny bit of
the pedal not returning to cause this since there is a release bypass in the
last bit of piston travel.
Later, - Lew
[quote="rv10flyer(at)live.com"]Bruce;
I just had the same situation last week. I added some air to the front tire and
verified the torque was right on the fork nut, but for some reason the plane
shakes at a certain speed when I taxi now. I thought it was the taxiway, but
than it occurred to me that I have been over the same taxiway in the past
without an issue, so I dont know why it does it now, no issue on takeoff or landing,
only when I do a taxi at a job pace.
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
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| Subject: | The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane |
I wrote three different a cheeky replies to this email and deleted them all
. My restraint is improving!
Robin
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: The Harbor Freight 2 Ton Shop Crane
The lawyers are taking over. I buy paint stripper .... brand name 'Aircraf
t Stripper'. The small print: 'Not for use on aircraft'. So sad.
Linn
On 2/15/2013 7:41 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
So only use it to pick up engines, not aircraft. ;-)
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com<mai
lto:jeff@westcottpress.com>> wrote:
... now on sale for 162.99
Disclaimer clearly states "not for aircraft use"
I'll take my chances.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
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RV List
I recently posted a First Flight on the Vans site and VAF. I thought I woul
d share it with those on this list that didn't already know about 85.
Robin
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=744277
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/first-flights.htm
More photos can be seen at:
http://www.painttheweb.com/painttheweb/RV-8A/
HD Video can be seen at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ912gZyQ0U&feature=share&list=UU33RvU
l-OACUdX3XIljn26w
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| Subject: | Re: N880EE Exposed |
At 07:59 PM 2/15/2013 Friday, Robin Marks wrote:
>RV List
>I recently posted a First Flight on the Vans site and VAF. I thought I would share
it with those on this list that didnt already know about 85.
>Robin
>
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><http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=744277>http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=744277
>
>http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/first-flights.htm
>
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>More photos can be seen at:
><http://www.painttheweb.com/painttheweb/RV-8A/>http://www.painttheweb.com/painttheweb/RV-8A/
>
>HD Video can be seen at:
><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ912gZyQ0U&feature=share&list=UU33RvUl-OACUdX3XIljn26w>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ912gZyQ0U&feature=share&list=UU33RvUl-OACUdX3XIljn26w
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VERY nice, Robin! Your workmanship is exquisite thorough out. Love the instrument
panel! The paint-job quality looks absolutely fantastic. Who did the paint
and airbrush work?
Well done!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
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| Subject: | Re: N880EE Exposed |
nice job with the plane Robin! look forward to seeing it in person soon!
Pascal
From: Robin Marks
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N880EE Exposed
RV List
I recently posted a First Flight on the Vans site and VAF. I thought I
would share it with those on this list that didn=99t already know
about 85.
Robin
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=744277
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/first-flights.htm
More photos can be seen at:
http://www.painttheweb.com/painttheweb/RV-8A/
HD Video can be seen at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ912gZyQ0U&feature=share&list=UU33R
vUl-OACUdX3XIljn26w
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage Area Weight |
Mine is 100 lbs. Finished 12/1/11. I would go past aft limit anyway with my aux
battery PC680 and main 925L in the back. No idea on when the change occurred.
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Wayne G.
SB 12/01/2009-12/01/2011
TT= 97.6
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| Subject: | Re: Gear leg stiffeners |
Occasionally I get a nose wheel fore-aft shimmy around 15 kts GS. If my plane sits
in one place more than 10 days, Van's tires get flat spots which can induce
resonance in the round gear legs. I know my tires are out of round by 1/4" and
have Desser retreads in stock when I get a few more hours on these.
Fly more.
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Wayne G.
SB 12/01/2009-12/01/2011
TT= 97.6
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