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1. 08:58 AM - PC925L & PC680 mounting (Wayne Pedersen)
2. 11:58 AM - Re: Grab handles (Patrick Pulis)
3. 11:58 AM - Re: Grab handles (Patrick Pulis)
4. 01:45 PM - Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (rvdave)
5. 02:33 PM - Re: Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (Rene Felker)
6. 03:31 PM - Re: ground power attach (woxofswa)
7. 04:09 PM - Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (bill.peyton)
8. 04:23 PM - Re: Aircraft Lifting (Albert Gardner)
9. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (Kelly McMullen)
10. 04:59 PM - Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (rvdave)
11. 06:16 PM - Re: Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (Robin Marks)
12. 06:42 PM - Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (bill.peyton)
13. 07:06 PM - Re: Grab handles ()
14. 07:14 PM - Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting (rv10flyer)
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| Subject: | PC925L & PC680 mounting |
I have searched the archives and can't seem to fine any pictures or discussion
on mounting a dual battery system comprising of a PC925L and PC680. Anybody have
any pictures of their mounting configuration or "if I had to do it again" confessions?
I have considered the PC925L in standard rear position and PC680 on the firewall
as in the RV7.
Thanks
Wayne
RV10 final wiring
RV7"eh?" flying
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| Subject: | Re: Grab handles |
Any pictures please Lew?
Warm regards
Patrick
On 21/02/2013, at 3:17 PM, <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
> Hey Carroll,
>
> I couldn=99t find the handles by your number online with Lowe=99
s here, but did find it at Home Depot.
>
> Later, =93 Lew
>
> From: Carroll L. Verhage
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:08 PM
> To: RV-10
> Subject: RV10-List: Grab handles
>
> Patrick: Grab handles are nice and work well. They are easy to install.
I have seen all sizes of grab handles but ones that look nice and are just
the right size are Lowes' stainless 128mm BP27021-G drawer pull. I mounted
them just above the rear windows 12 inches aft of the door opening. Their a
dditional aeronautical drag is negligable. Make a template of the mounting h
oles on the handle. Drill a #8 screw size pilot hole through each layer of t
he Lexan into the cabin. Make sure these holes match the handle. Reem a li
ttle if necessary. Then drill the outer layer of the Lexan the OD of an alu
minum spacer with an ID about the size of the #8 screw (I think it was 3/16 O
D and 1/8 ID). Cut the spacer the length of the thickness of the Lexan so i
t stops against the inner layer of the Lexan and is flush with the outside L
exan surface. Mix about a tablespoon of epoxy with fiberglass filler for ea
ch handle the consistancy of peanut butter. Put 1/2 the epoxy in each mount
ing hole. Put a spacer in each hole so it has some fiberglass around the sp
acer filling up the cavity between the two layers of Lexan. Align the space
rs by putting the handles back on. Let the fiberglass harden. Permanently m
ount the handles using a stainless steel fender washer inside the cabin. If
the spacer is a little long, you can file it down flush with the outside. T
he spacer has to be long enough to press against the inner layer. With the s
pacers surrounded by fiberglass, it will stay in place when the handle is re
moved and also assure you don't collapse the shell when the handle is tighte
ned down. You can add handles after you have your 10 built and flying and t
he cabin upholstery installed.
>
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> Carroll
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| Subject: | Re: Grab handles |
Many thanks Carroll.
Warm regards
Patrick
On 21/02/2013, at 8:38 AM, "Carroll L. Verhage" <cv93436@windstream.net> wro
te:
> Patrick: Grab handles are nice and work well. They are easy to install.
I have seen all sizes of grab handles but ones that look nice and are just
the right size are Lowes' stainless 128mm BP27021-G drawer pull. I mounted
them just above the rear windows 12 inches aft of the door opening. Their a
dditional aeronautical drag is negligable. Make a template of the mounting h
oles on the handle. Drill a #8 screw size pilot hole through each layer of t
he Lexan into the cabin. Make sure these holes match the handle. Reem a l
ittle if necessary. Then drill the outer layer of the Lexan the OD of an al
uminum spacer with an ID about the size of the #8 screw (I think it was 3/16
OD and 1/8 ID). Cut the spacer the length of the thickness of the Lexan so
it stops against the inner layer of the Lexan and is flush with the outside
Lexan surface. Mix about a tablespoon of epoxy with fiberglass filler for e
ach handle the consistancy of peanut butter. Put 1/2 the epoxy in each moun
ting hole. Put a spacer in each hole so it has some fiberglass around the s
pacer filling up the cavity between the two layers of Lexan. Align the spac
ers by putting the handles back on. Let the fiberglass harden. Permanently m
ount the handles using a stainless steel fender washer inside the cabin. If
the spacer is a little long, you can file it down flush with the outside. T
he spacer has to be long enough to press against the inner layer. With the s
pacers surrounded by fiberglass, it will stay in place when the handle is re
moved and also assure you don't collapse the shell when the handle is tighte
ned down. You can add handles after you have your 10 built and flying and t
he cabin upholstery installed.
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> Carroll
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
That's the same configuration I'm looking at. Vans as you point out has a firewall
kit for the pc680, I'm also looking at the Hawker tray. It's similar to
the one I have in my flying 6 although the battery in the 6 is smaller. I believe
someone has installed the firewall 680 and am looking for photos as well.
--------
Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
I put a 680 on my firewall and have managed to kill the battery in two
years. I think it was a heat problem. Next month while I am doing my
condition inspection I am planning on taking the battery down to the battery
shop and having them check it out and see if they can help tell me what went
wrong. I have a 925 in the back that dates back to 2007. It is still going
strong, but I am planning on having that checked out also. I put the 680 on
the firewall after I was flying for extra reserve power and.....to move the
CG forward. When I was building the airplane, because of some online
discussions, I was concerned about the forward CG position of the stock
airplane and made some decisions that drove the CG back (o2 and ELT
placement). But after I was flying I found the CG to far back. So, I added
the battery.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting
That's the same configuration I'm looking at. Vans as you point out has a
firewall kit for the pc680, I'm also looking at the Hawker tray. It's
similar to the one I have in my flying 6 although the battery in the 6 is
smaller. I believe someone has installed the firewall 680 and am looking
for photos as well.
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: ground power attach |
I understand the jump start argument, but still think options and flexibility are
good.
There is a big difference in risk between night/IFR and day/vfr. Most EFIS systems
have independent power backup. Getting stuck where a battery or AC power
for a charge is either unavailable or a ripoff might change perspective. A lot
of airplanes fly without electrical systems, but a 540 would be a tough and
dangerous hand throw.
A jump is much safer if a solo pilot can remain at the controls and the Samaritan
just needs to pull the plug and either keep or mail the cables.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and
FWF kit in progress.
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
Here is our set up. The PC925 fits perfect in the existing Vans designed tray.
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Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Aircraft Lifting |
I used a coupla of Harbor Freight Jacks and made some jack stands using
plywood to hold them vertical. Used a short length of ready-bolt to screw
into the tie down ring holes. Works well.
Albert Gardner
RV-10 N991RV
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
Seems like you need the 925L to match the cables as Vans supplies them,
with the negative at the front end of the battery and positive to the rear.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:09 PM, bill.peyton <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Here is our set up. The PC925 fits perfect in the existing Vans designed
> tray.
>
> --------
> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
Nice setup Bill, do you have any photos of your tray construction and supports
for the battery and accessories?
--------
Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
Nice!
Robin
Sent from the new iPad
On Feb 21, 2013, at 7:13 PM, "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Here is our set up. The PC925 fits perfect in the existing Vans designed tray.
>
> --------
> Bill
> WA0SYV
> Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
The 925L polarity is correct for the installation. Sorry, I don't have any other
photos of the tray. :(
--------
Bill
WA0SYV
Aviation Partners, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Grab handles |
Hey Patrick,
Try
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100631483/h_d2/ProductDisplay?cat
alogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=BP27021-G&storeId=10051&superSkuId
2784539
for the actual Home Depot online item. I=99ll attach their
picture to see if it goes through.
Later, =93 Lew
From: Patrick Pulis
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Grab handles
Any pictures please Lew?
Warm regards
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: PC925L & PC680 mounting |
Mine is set up almost like Bill's. I made my own 680 holder. It is supported off
of the factory battery mount. The bottom of holder is bonded to bottom skin
with proseal. If I had it to do over, I would have installed the 680 on the firewall
since 95% of my flights are with family and baggage. It limits my baggage
to 99 lbs with existing rear seat passenger weights. I like the 30-45 minutes
of panel power and aux starting capabilities. No ext power connector needed.
--------
Wayne G.
SB 12/01/2009-12/01/2011
TT= 97.6
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