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1. 07:15 AM - Re: RV-10 down (johngoodman)
2. 08:28 AM - Re: RV-10 down (Ron B.)
3. 09:48 AM - Re: RV-10 down (RPierce)
4. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down (Pascal)
5. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down ()
6. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 down (William Curtis)
7. 04:57 PM - Re: RV-10 down (Ron B.)
8. 06:02 PM - Re: Baffling tips (woxofswa)
9. 08:22 PM - Re: RV-10 down (rv10flyer)
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Came across this on Associated Press this morning:
LAKE PLACID, N.Y. -- An experimental aircraft crashed into a wooded area just outside
the village of Lake Placid, leaving three men to spend more than 10 hours
in frigid conditions before they could be rescued early Friday.
The men, all in their 50s and all from Westfield, were checked out by an ambulance
crew but declined additional medical treatment when state forest rangers brought
them out of the woods on snowmobiles around 4 a.m. Friday, according to
the Department of Environmental Conservation.
Agency spokesman David Winchell said state police contacted a department dispatcher
around 6:30 p.m. Thursday seeking forest rangers to head to the scene of
a plane crash in a wooded area near the Lake Placid Airport, just south of the
village. The men on board the Vans RV-10 experimental aircraft had used a cellphone
to call Essex County emergency dispatchers and provide coordinates of the
crash site, Winchell said.
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A state police helicopter dispatched from nearby Lake Clear Airport was unable
to reach the crash site because of weather conditions and darkness.
The men's information placed the crash site at Nye Mountain, near the airport.
But by the time two rangers hiked to the location at 11 p.m., officials had determined
they were in the wrong spot because the men's coordinates had been provided
in a format not typically used by environmental department search teams,
Winchell said. Plotting the coordinates in another format placed the actual
crash site about a mile from Whiteface Inn Road, about 2 miles northwest of the
village.
Rangers reached the site around 2 a.m., Winchell said. The men had used extra clothing
and a tarp to stay warm in temperatures that dipped into the single digits,
he said.
Officials identified the men as Michael Oster, 54; Jeff O'Connor, 58; and Frank
Dombroski, 51, all of Westfield in Union County, N.J., just west of New York
City. The men were believed to be staying in the Lake Placid area, but officials
didn't know where, Winchell said.
Attempts by The Associated Press to contact the men were unsuccessful.
The Federal Aviation Administration said the plane departed from Somerset Airport
in Bedminster, N.J, and was headed to Lake Placid Airport when it crashed.
The FAA is investigating what caused the crash.
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#40572 Phase One complete and flying.
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The pilot posted on VAF, on some of his experiences during this accident.
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http://kathrynaviationnews.com/?p=130333
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Not under rv10
Please send link
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On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:27 AM, "Ron B." <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca> wrote:
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Lat and Long given to the 911 operator 4 times was 100% accurate. They
failed on the communication to the SAR team. I can't say enough for the
fortitude of the SAR team that hiked in to help us.
We are very upset with the cover up of the errors in the dispatch system. We
will foia the 911 calls to clarify the truth. We spent 10 hours in single
digit temperatures, which was worse than the plane crash. While we greatly
appreciate the efforts of everyone that helped us, we do not appreciate
their misrepresentation of the facts.
My RV-10 took a beating, yet the cabin protected us incredibly well. I am
not in a position to post the details of the crash, as there were many
factors yet to reconcile. The plane performed flawlessly and was not a
factor in this accident.
Best,
Frank
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Frank Dombroski, NJ KSMQ
RV-10 N10FD
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From: Pascal
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 2:05 PM
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Not under rv10
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On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:27 AM, "Ron B." <ronbelliveau@eastlink.ca> wrote:
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I flew from Boston area to NJ around that same time and while MY entire flight
was in clear air, icing and the approaching Wx was at the top of my concern. Forecast
showed much of the Wx concern was north of my flightpath from OWD to 47N.
The altitude deviations lead me to speculate --and I stress speculate-- that
this was icing related. Glad there were no fatalities.
On a related note, traveling to far flung cities the past two years has brought
my RV-10 construction to a crawl as I can work on it only when I'm back home
on the weekends. At least now at my latest destination, I can commute with my
own aircraft. Any builders in the Boston south shore area (Braintree, Quincy,
Norwood, etc) that would like some help with their construction Mon-Thurs evenings?
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
40237
On Feb 23, 2013, at 14:22, <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
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> Lat and Long given to the 911 operator 4 times was 100% accurate. They failed
on the communication to the SAR team. I can't say enough for the fortitude of
the SAR team that hiked in to help us.
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> We are very upset with the cover up of the errors in the dispatch system. We
will foia the 911 calls to clarify the truth. We spent 10 hours in single digit
temperatures, which was worse than the plane crash. While we greatly appreciate
the efforts of everyone that helped us, we do not appreciate their misrepresentation
of the facts.
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in a position to post the details of the crash, as there were many factors yet
to reconcile. The plane performed flawlessly and was not a factor in this accident.
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> Frank
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> Frank Dombroski, NJ KSMQ
> RV-10 N10FD
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It's under, " RV general discussion/news"
Ron
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jfrjr,
You were right and I was wrong. My squeezer had sat for a bit and wasn't properly
primed. Once I dialed it in, it pulled those rivets with no trouble.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and
FWF kit in progress.
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Here was the wx around that time. Sunset was about 1 hr prior.
Wx 12.7 nm NW of LKP: KSLK 212251Z AUTO 20003KT 5SM BR OVC014 M12/M14 A3012 RMK
AO2 SNB04E18 SLP241 P0000 T11221139 TSNO
Wx 31.4 nm NE of LKP: KPBG 212253Z AUTO 10003KT 8SM -SN BKN035 OVC044 M07/M09 A3020
RMK AO2 SLP233 P0000 T10721094
Night, weather and big hills. AFS SV in the panel. Thankful for a dense Birch and
Spruce forest to absorb some energy. Glad they are skiing this weekend.
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Wayne G.
SB 12/01/2009-12/01/2011
TT= 97.6
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