---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/28/13: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:42 AM - Re: Obstruction behind instrument panel (Jesse Saint) 2. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 down (Ed Kranz) 3. 07:06 AM - Re: Obstruction behind instrument panel (Stein Bruch) 4. 03:51 PM - Granby, CO (Jesse Saint) 5. 06:59 PM - Re: Granby, CO (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Obstruction behind instrument panel From: Jesse Saint I've done almost exactly this. I've never modified the center rib in any way, but the outboards I've modified like Tim did. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Dave Saylor wrote: > > The Incredibly Magnificent One's (TIM O) website has what you're looking for: > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050610/index.html > > Did anyone notice how well the upper fuselage area held together in > the Lake Placid accident? He had big AFS screens so he almost > certainly had to modify these ribs. If I had to leave one intact, I'd > make it the center one. Look at the pictures of the center post in > the accident photos--it's pretty clearly bent. > > Dave Saylor > 831-750-0284 CL > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:57 PM, BC wrote: >> It appears that certain large screen EFIS will not fit behind the instrument >> panel due to the several structural elements that are in the way. Has anyone >> come up with a solution or a method for cutting these down without >> compromising the airframe? > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 down From: Ed Kranz I can't imagine the press would ever screw up a quote. My guess is the wife said something along the lines of "Every piece is built (just like they do at) Boeing or Cessna. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > > Good grief! Press quotes pilot's wife as saying "Every piece is built by > Cessna or Boeing." > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395253#395253 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:22 AM PST US From: "Stein Bruch" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Obstruction behind instrument panel It's very common to modify the structure behind the panel within reason. The ribs and sub panel are all candidates for modification, but that doesn't mean you just "remove material" and call it good. With any aircraft structure from a cub to a 747, if you remove material you traditionally need to add back material in order to give said structure it's load bearing capacity. If you remove in one place, you add in another. There are a number of ways to modify the ribs and still keep the structural integrity of the entire assembly in place, but it's also not a one size fit's all solution. The center rib from where the center brace attaches is a place that is difficult to do any reasonable modification. That said, all of the ribs between the sub panel and the main panel can be changed in differing ways (depending on your situation) to allow for avionics, efises, etc.. to be installed and still keep everything good. I'd encourage you to decide what is going in there, then decide what/where you need to modify and consult with someone before just jumping in. That doesn't mean you have to hire a structural engineer, but have a 2nd set of eyes from someone who knows structure pretty well and you'll be good! Just my 2 cents as usual. Cheers, Stein From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BC Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: Obstruction behind instrument panel It appears that certain large screen EFIS will not fit behind the instrument panel due to the several structural elements that are in the way. Has anyone come up with a solution or a method for cutting these down without compromising the airframe? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Granby, CO From: Jesse Saint Can anybody offer insight into flying into Granby, CO in the summer? Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Granby, CO From: Kelly McMullen Well, the passes from the west are over 10,000 ft, from the east you are looking at over 13,000. While it might be ok for RV-10, it violates my personal high altitude airport general rule of runway length equals elevation or better(think twice and calculate carefully if that condition isn't met). I've been in and out of Steamboat Springs and Aspen, but not Granby. On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > > Can anybody offer insight into flying into Granby, CO in the summer? > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > www.mavericklsa.com > C: 352-427-0285 > O: 352-465-4545 > F: 815-377-3694 > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.