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1. 02:51 AM - Re: Firewall insulation (Bob Leffler)
2. 06:45 AM - Re: cabin top trimming data point (William Greenley)
3. 06:55 AM - Re: Firewall insulation (Carl Froehlich)
4. 11:23 AM - Re: cabin top trimming data point (Ben Westfall)
5. 11:56 AM - GPS Shelf FWF (Robin Marks)
6. 12:06 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Sean Stephens)
7. 02:07 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Linn)
8. 02:31 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Bruce Johnson)
9. 02:47 PM - Re: Finishing Kit Substitution Costs (Pascal)
10. 04:58 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Jim Combs)
11. 05:44 PM - seat back handle improvement? (Rob Kochman)
12. 06:04 PM - More on GoPro Mounts (Chris)
13. 07:27 PM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Dave Saylor)
14. 08:24 PM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Robin Marks)
15. 08:33 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Robin Marks)
16. 09:29 PM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Rob Kochman)
17. 09:30 PM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Rob Kochman)
18. 10:12 PM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Dave Saylor)
19. 10:17 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Linn)
20. 11:14 PM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall insulation |
Ed,
You need to read the thread in the VAF archives about Dan horton's testing of all
the materials.
Unfortunately, as Ted found out, that black foam insulation turns into caustic
black smoke pretty quickly. I wouldn't use it on the firewall or tunnel. I
did use the black foam in areas that most likely would be exposed to flames in
flight, like the side walls.
I used fiberfrax in the tunnel. On the firewall I used a product from acs that
is a ceramic blanket with stainless foil on the firewall side and aluminum foil
on the aft side.
There is no 100% answer here. You need to determine the best way to mitigate the
risk of heat/fire, since many of the solutions introduce other risks if implemented.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Ed Godfrey <egodfrey@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> All,
> I am trying to make a decision as to a decent method of firewall insulation.
I have looked through the arhives and have seen where some have used a Fiberfrax
type of material and some have used a foam material. Is there anything that
might not be a good idea to use bot the Fiberfrax as a thermal insulation
and a foam insulation for acoustic?Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Ed Godfrey
> 40717
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cabin top trimming data point |
What grit of carbide blade did you find worked best for you?
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys, I started trimming the cabin top today and made 2 discoveries. 1)
> as others have found normal jig saw blades dull incredibly quickly. 2) I
> also tried a carbide jig saw blade I purchased years ago to cut ceramic
> tile. This blade was mounted in my Makita jig saw and worked great. I
> completed all the rough trimming in probably a 1/2 hour, and with little
> dust compared to a rotary tool.
>
> Unfortunately I have no idea where I purchased this blade now but if you
> can find one, give it a try.
>
> Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
>
> *
>
> *
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| Subject: | Firewall insulation |
I used the this and like it:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/insulator3.php
The double sided, one layer thick is fine.
Get the aluminum foil tape to install:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/insultape.php
I used this insulation on the inside of the firewall, all floors and
sidewalls (with an interior fabric covering the cabin side of the insulation
for areas not enclosed). I did not use it for the cabin top (I found a nice
marine grade upholstery product for that). I have this on the bottom of the
tunnel but not the sides. I have not experienced any issues with tunnel
heat. I have some KoolMat
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/ap/insulation/koolmat.php on the
firewall. It is between the cabin heat control valves and the firewall,
then extents up and over the top of the valves. The idea is to not blast
the engine and fuel pump with hot heat muff air that bounces off the valves
back toward the engine when the valves are shut (on hot days when you least
want hot air banging on the fuel pump). So the KoolMat insulates some
thermal heat transfer to the firewall, and looping the KoolMat over the top
and then down in front of the valves directs the dumped heat muff air down
and away from the engine.
I know one RV-10 builder who used the black foam in the floor area that had
to pull it out - it started to smell up the airplane when it got warm.
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Firewall insulation
Ed,
You need to read the thread in the VAF archives about Dan horton's testing
of all the materials.
Unfortunately, as Ted found out, that black foam insulation turns into
caustic black smoke pretty quickly. I wouldn't use it on the firewall or
tunnel. I did use the black foam in areas that most likely would be exposed
to flames in flight, like the side walls.
I used fiberfrax in the tunnel. On the firewall I used a product from acs
that is a ceramic blanket with stainless foil on the firewall side and
aluminum foil on the aft side.
There is no 100% answer here. You need to determine the best way to
mitigate the risk of heat/fire, since many of the solutions introduce other
risks if implemented.
Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:48 PM, Ed Godfrey <egodfrey@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> All,
> I am trying to make a decision as to a decent method of firewall
insulation. I have looked through the arhives and have seen where some have
used a Fiberfrax type of material and some have used a foam material. Is
there anything that might not be a good idea to use bot the Fiberfrax as a
thermal insulation and a foam insulation for acoustic?Any thoughts would be
greatly appreciated.
>
> Ed Godfrey
> 40717
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | cabin top trimming data point |
I did my cabin top trimming with the harbor freight body saw and about 2
packs of blades or more making lots of dust and spending way too much time
doing it. I suffered through trimming the rear windows with the typical 4"
cutoff wheel then another builder, Mark Cooper, turned me on to a great
alternative the diamond wheel for dremel tools.
http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=EZ545
This works really well for both fiberglass and plexi and seems to last quite
a while. I trimmed the door windows with this in minutes compared to the
hours it took using the vans supplied cutoff wheel. It doesn't take side
loading very well but given its smaller size it works pretty good still
trimming the corners.
-Ben
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: cabin top trimming data point
Guys, I started trimming the cabin top today and made 2 discoveries. 1) as
others have found normal jig saw blades dull incredibly quickly. 2) I also
tried a carbide jig saw blade I purchased years ago to cut ceramic tile.
This blade was mounted in my Makita jig saw and worked great. I completed
all the rough trimming in probably a 1/2 hour, and with little dust compared
to a rotary tool.
Unfortunately I have no idea where I purchased this blade now but if you can
find one, give it a try.
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF tha
t had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and conn
ected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo agai
n with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate the
post.
Thanks,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
Here's the post in the forums with a bunch of options including the one
you are referring to.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392689#392689
-Sean #40303 (FAB)
On 3/12/13 1:55 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted
> FWF that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted
> black and connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner
> share the photo again with the group? I need something similar for my
> 8A and cannot locate the post.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robin
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
Just curious ..... why not put the GPS antennas on the glareshield???
Linn
On 3/12/2013 2:55 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted
> FWF that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted
> black and connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner
> share the photo again with the group? I need something similar for my
> 8A and cannot locate the post.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robin
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
> No virus found in this message.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
For me it was just-assedics, they work well under the cowl and are out of
sight.-=0A=0ABruce 151BJ in the paint shop=0A=0A=0A_____________________
___________=0A From: Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics
.com =0ASent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:05 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: GPS
Shelf FWF=0A =0A=0AJust curious ..... why not put the GPS antennas on the
glareshield???=0ALinn=0A=0AOn 3/12/2013 2:55 PM, Robin Marks wrote:=0A=0A
=0A>Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF
that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and
connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo
again with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate
the post.=0A>-=0A>Thanks,=0A>Robin =0A>No virus found in this message.=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Finishing Kit Substitution Costs |
I received a couple e-mails asking for more information on the parts the
Desser replace. I am pretty certain Tim has this already somewhere on his
website however for easy reference.
I broke down the Desser/Cee Bailey's packages and the respective Vans part
number it replaces. Keep in mind that I recall the windows came with a
earlier kit than the finish kit. Best to have Vans send a copy of the parts
list at each point and review to see if any of the parts that are being
replaced are removed.
Desser site:
Wingtip position light lenses- VA193
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/RV%252d10-Clear-Wing-tip-lenses-%28pair%29.html
Complete Windows kit -
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/Cee-Bailey%27s-RV%252d10-Windshield%2C-pilot-%26-co%252dpilot-door-windows%2C-left-and-right-rear-window-set.html
Individual kits:
Side rear windows- C-1004L/C1004R
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/RV%252d10-Rear-%28Left-or-Right%29-Window.html
side DOOR windows C1003L/1003R
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/RV%252d10-pilot-%26-co%252dpilot-door-windows%2C-left-and-right-rear-window-set.html
front windscreen (C-1005)
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/Cee-Baileys-RV%252d10-Windshield.html
tires
http://www.vansaircrafttires.com/products/RV%252d10-New-Builders-Special-save-10%25-%28two-15%7B47%7D600%252d6PR-Retreads%2C-two-Aero-Classic-Easy-Flate-Tubes%2C-one-5.00%252d5-6PR-Elite-Retreads%2C-and-one-Aero-Classic-5.00%252d5-Butyl-Tube%29.html
The advantage of getting the retreads now, if one is ever going to go this
route, is that the wheel pants are spaced correctly around the tires when
building, otherwise one may find they need to make the area larger after
replacing the stock tires with retread.
Hope this helps!
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Pascal
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Finishing Kit Substitution Costs
Dave;
I helped Desser with the front window/windscreen another builder with the
sides- they fit perfectly versus having to do all the trimming to make it
fit. The quality of Cee baileys is also better than that sent from Vans.
Keep in mind that you may pay more for the windows, Matco and tires but you
are far better off for it. In the end you really saved a whole lot of time
and eventually money as the parts you replaced from the Vans parts will last
far longer.
I make nothing on this, but believe me I worked with Desser/Cee Baileys
because the windows are lacking from Vans and the product Desser came up
with was based on thriving for perfection and a perfect fit "as is". Until
you have put the windows on and off 20 times to get the gap right one would
not understand the advantage of having a nearly perfect fitting piece on
arrival. I tossed my windscreen as I had a "bulge" on the co-pilot side and
used the Desser version that was rounded and tight fitting throughout.
Thanks for the feedback!
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fritzsche (Building)
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 11:07 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Finishing Kit Substitution Costs
<dfritz@bpgsim.com>
I pretty much went with the list of substitutions suggested on Tim's
site and this list. My windshield and back side windows came with the
fuselage kit I already had. I chose to delete the two door windows for
which Van's credited me $110 each. The door windows from Dresser cost
$150 each. Van's credited me $100.38 for the nose wheel. MATCO charged
130.49 for the nose wheel. Van's credited me $68 each for the main gear
tires and $52.40 for the nose wheel tire. Dresser charge $69 each for
the main gear retreads and $69.95 for the nose wheel retread. Thus
these were not direct cost substitutes, but the nose wheel is a must and
I hope the windows are worth the difference and I understand the tires
wear longer. I thought this might be of interest to those at this stage
of the build.
Dave
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Fritzsche
40813
Puyallup, WA
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
Here is my solution.
Jim Combs
N312F - Flying 460+ Hours
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com> wrote:
> Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF
> that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and
> connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo
> again with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate
> the post.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> Robin ****
>
>
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| Subject: | seat back handle improvement? |
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | More on GoPro Mounts |
I found this scheme on Van's Air Force I think.
The mount is the standard go pro flat adhesive base but with backing still
on adhesive. The adhesive pad acts as a paint protector/cushion. A hole is
drilled in the mount and countersunk. I have used on the top and the bottom
of the wing using a longer fuel tank screw to hold it on. At cruise and in
the pattern no issues and pretty stable - sometimes I can tell the automatic
stabilization is kicking in on the camera or rather not keeping up with a
slight vibe.
-Chris Lucas
N919AR
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Mine are positioned to stick back into the footwell, on the outboard
sides. They're pretty easy to get to from just about everywhere.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
> that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
> slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> Woodinville, WA
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
>
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| Subject: | seat back handle improvement? |
Rob,
Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my fr
ont seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had th
em and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am not
sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for emerg
ency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a rear fa
cing handle extension that one pushes down?
The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square tubi
ng. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
Good luck,
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned t
hat the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could sl
ow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
________________________________
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Lynn,
I dislike anything on the glare shield. I won't even fly (build) with a das
h or pole mounted compass. RV's have such great visibility why gunk it up w
ith random odds & ends. Over time you will add, remove antenna and I prefer
to do that out of sight. Just keeping it clean!
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GPS Shelf FWF
For me it was just assedics, they work well under the cowl and are out of s
ight.
Bruce 151BJ in the paint shop
________________________________
From: Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com<mailto:flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GPS Shelf FWF
Just curious ..... why not put the GPS antennas on the glareshield???
Linn
On 3/12/2013 2:55 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF tha
t had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and conn
ected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo agai
n with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate the
post.
Thanks,
Robin
No virus found in this message.
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03/12/13
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Ah, Dave, you made me feel dumb. I didn't even think to reposition the
handles! A perfect $0 solution. Thanks...
-Rob
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Dave Saylor <
dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
> dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
>
> Mine are positioned to stick back into the footwell, on the outboard
> sides. They're pretty easy to get to from just about everywhere.
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
> > that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
> > slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
> >
> > -Rob
> >
> > --
> > Rob Kochman
> > RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> > Woodinville, WA
> > http://kochman.net/N819K
> >
> >
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Robin, I'm talking about the other handle, though I was thinking about
replacing the other one. That said, I don't adjust it frequently.
Thanks...
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com> wrote:
> Rob,****
>
> Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my
> front seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had
> them and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am
> not sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for
> emergency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a
> rear facing handle extension that one pushes down?****
>
> The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square
> tubing. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.****
>
> ** **
>
> Good luck,****
>
> Robin****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Kochman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
> *To:* rv10-list
> *Subject:* RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?****
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
> that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
> slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...****
>
> ** **
>
> -Rob
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> -- ****
>
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011****
>
> Woodinville, WA****
>
> http://kochman.net/N819K****
>
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
If it'll make you feel better I'll charge you for it ;-)
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, Dave, you made me feel dumb. I didn't even think to reposition the
> handles! A perfect $0 solution. Thanks...
>
> -Rob
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Dave Saylor
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
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>> Mine are positioned to stick back into the footwell, on the outboard
>> sides. They're pretty easy to get to from just about everywhere.
>> Dave Saylor
>> 831-750-0284 CL
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm
>> > concerned
>> > that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which
>> > could
>> > slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
>> >
>> > -Rob
>> >
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>> > Rob Kochman
>> > RV-10 Flying since March 2011
>> > Woodinville, WA
>> > http://kochman.net/N819K
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> Woodinville, WA
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
Thanks Robin. I feel as you do .... wanted to not install the front
cabin top brace for the same reason. I learned from others that they
use it a lot .... so in it goes.
One problem I have flying my traumahawk ..... there's nothing to use to
'aim' the airplane to keep it on track. I have two small pucks for GPS
antennas .... and was thinking of mounting them on the glareshield as a
'sight'.
Again, thanks for the reply.
Linn .... still learning
On 3/12/2013 11:32 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Lynn,
>
> I dislike anything on the glare shield. I won't even fly (build) with
> a dash or pole mounted compass. RV's have such great visibility why
> gunk it up with random odds & ends. Over time you will add, remove
> antenna and I prefer to do that out of sight. Just keeping it clean!
>
> Robin
>
>
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Lynn,
I recall the brace conversation. I as much as just about anyone didn't want
the brace there till I flew the 10. The brace is invaluable for getting in
and out, for stabilization during turbulence and for routing wires from my
overhead console. I'm embarrassed to say I love the brace now.
Might I suggest you consider installing flush defrost fans and use those as
your aiming device and move the small GPS pucks to the FWF? Occasionally I
can see the reflection of my black computer fan grills on the windscreen.
It looks kind of like a machine gun site.
Another option is to press the Heading button on the AP and not worry about
the site. Over time you will be comfortable flying a plane you built with
your own hands w/o the need for a site line.
Good luck with your choices.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GPS Shelf FWF
Thanks Robin. I feel as you do .... wanted to not install the front cabin
top brace for the same reason. I learned from others that they use it a lo
t .... so in it goes.
One problem I have flying my traumahawk ..... there's nothing to use to 'ai
m' the airplane to keep it on track. I have two small pucks for GPS antenn
as .... and was thinking of mounting them on the glareshield as a 'sight'.
Again, thanks for the reply.
Linn .... still learning
On 3/12/2013 11:32 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
Lynn,
I dislike anything on the glare shield. I won't even fly (build) with a das
h or pole mounted compass. RV's have such great visibility why gunk it up w
ith random odds & ends. Over time you will add, remove antenna and I prefer
to do that out of sight. Just keeping it clean!
Robin
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