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1. 05:28 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Michael Kraus)
2. 05:32 AM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Michael Kraus)
3. 07:06 AM - Re: cabin top trimming data point (Rick Lark)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (JimVillani)
5. 07:28 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Robin Marks)
6. 07:35 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (JimVillani)
7. 07:56 AM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Linn)
8. 08:12 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Michael Sausen)
9. 08:24 AM - Seat adjusters (Dave Saylor)
10. 08:28 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Dave Saylor)
11. 09:19 AM - Re: Seat adjusters (dmaib@me.com)
12. 09:25 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (dmaib@me.com)
13. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: Seat adjusters (Dave Saylor)
14. 09:44 AM - Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Matt Dralle)
15. 10:03 AM - Re: cabin top trimming data point (Tim Farrell)
16. 10:23 AM - Re: cabin top trimming data point (Linn)
17. 10:38 AM - Re: cabin top trimming data point (Jeff Nichols)
18. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: GPS Shelf FWF (William Greenley)
19. 11:44 AM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (Rob Kochman)
20. 12:01 PM - Re: seat back handle improvement? (David Maib)
21. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Michael Kraus)
22. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: GPS Shelf FWF (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Mine are on the inside of the seats (vs between the seat and the door). It is
a little inconvenient reaching over the seat at times, but I liked it better than
trying to get at it between the door and the seat.
It is very easy for the rear seat pax to reach...
I like the idea of pointing them backwards on the onboard side, never thought of
that!
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mine are positioned to stick back into the footwell, on the outboard
> sides. They're pretty easy to get to from just about everywhere.
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
>
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> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
>> that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
>> slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> --
>> Rob Kochman
>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
>> Woodinville, WA
>> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: cabin top trimming data point |
William, I don't have any idea what grit it is. I attached a photo which
should help. I would say that the grit could have been more coarse which
would have made it cut even faster. The blade is pretty beat up now. I
was in a machine shop/tool place yesterday and they had similar blades, so
they must be available. Certainlt a tile installtion place would know
where to get them.
Good luck, Rick
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, William Greenley <wgreenley@gmail.com>wrote:
> What grit of carbide blade did you find worked best for you?
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys, I started trimming the cabin top today and made 2 discoveries. 1)
>> as others have found normal jig saw blades dull incredibly quickly. 2) I
>> also tried a carbide jig saw blade I purchased years ago to cut ceramic
>> tile. This blade was mounted in my Makita jig saw and worked great. I
>> completed all the rough trimming in probably a 1/2 hour, and with little
>> dust compared to a rotary tool.
>>
>> Unfortunately I have no idea where I purchased this blade now but if you
>> can find one, give it a try.
>>
>> Rick
>> #40956
>> Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | seat back handle improvement? |
Robin,
Where did you get your seat handles from?
Jim
N10KQ
81.5 hrs
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Rob,
Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my
front seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had
them and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am
not sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for
emergency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a
rear facing handle extension that one pushes down?
The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square
tubing. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
Good luck,
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
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| Subject: | seat back handle improvement? |
Jim,
So sorry I don't recall. Anyone else know on the list?
Regardless the first set didn't last due to thin wall design. We remade the
m ourselves with better material for near nothing. I suggest you do the sam
e. It should take very little time to duplicate the units pictured in the p
rior email. I really like this simple mod and it is used twice on every fli
ght. I recall the stock Vans design is a bit of a knuckle scraper.
Good luck,
Robin
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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Robin,
Where did you get your seat handles from?
Jim
N10KQ
81.5 hrs
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma
tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob
in Marks
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Rob,
Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my fr
ont seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had th
em and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am not
sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for emerg
ency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a rear fa
cing handle extension that one pushes down?
The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square tubi
ng. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
Good luck,
Robin
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Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned t
hat the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could sl
ow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
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http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | seat back handle improvement? |
Absolutely.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Jim,
So sorry I don't recall. Anyone else know on the list?
Regardless the first set didn't last due to thin wall design. We remade them
ourselves with better material for near nothing. I suggest you do the same.
It should take very little time to duplicate the units pictured in the prior
email. I really like this simple mod and it is used twice on every flight. I
recall the stock Vans design is a bit of a knuckle scraper.
Good luck,
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JimVillani
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Robin,
Where did you get your seat handles from?
Jim
N10KQ
81.5 hrs
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Rob,
Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my
front seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had
them and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am
not sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for
emergency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a
rear facing handle extension that one pushes down?
The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square
tubing. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
Good luck,
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
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Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
32 years ago I built my Pitts S-1 ..... and it never stays on heading
more than a few seconds .. :-D
I was planning on fans ..... and promptly forgot them. Thanks for the
reminder!!!!
You also reminded me about those hardpoints on the wings .........
Linn
On 3/13/2013 2:13 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Lynn,
>
> I recall the brace conversation. I as much as just about anyone didn't
> want the brace there till I flew the 10. The brace is invaluable for
> getting in and out, for stabilization during turbulence and for
> routing wires from my overhead console. I'm embarrassed to say I love
> the brace now.
>
> Might I suggest you consider installing flush defrost fans and use
> those as your aiming device and move the small GPS pucks to the FWF?
> Occasionally I can see the reflection of my black computer fan grills
> on the windscreen. It looks kind of like a machine gun site.
>
> Another option is to press the Heading button on the AP and not worry
> about the site. Over time you will be comfortable flying a plane you
> built with your own hands w/o the need for a site line.
>
> Good luck with your choices.
>
> Robin
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Linn
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:17 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: GPS Shelf FWF
>
> Thanks Robin. I feel as you do .... wanted to not install the front
> cabin top brace for the same reason. I learned from others that they
> use it a lot .... so in it goes.
> One problem I have flying my traumahawk ..... there's nothing to use
> to 'aim' the airplane to keep it on track. I have two small pucks for
> GPS antennas .... and was thinking of mounting them on the glareshield
> as a 'sight'.
> Again, thanks for the reply.
> Linn .... still learning
>
> On 3/12/2013 11:32 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Lynn,
>
> I dislike anything on the glare shield. I won't even fly (build)
> with a dash or pole mounted compass. RV's have such great
> visibility why gunk it up with random odds & ends. Over time you
> will add, remove antenna and I prefer to do that out of sight.
> Just keeping it clean!
>
> Robin
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| Subject: | seat back handle improvement? |
Greg Hale originally did the design and I believe Steve DiNeri is selling t
hem. http://capsteve.wix.com/iflyrv10
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of JimVillani
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Robin,
Where did you get your seat handles from?
Jim
N10KQ
81.5 hrs
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma
tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob
in Marks
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Rob,
Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my fr
ont seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had th
em and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am not
sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for emerg
ency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a rear fa
cing handle extension that one pushes down?
The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square tubi
ng. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
Good luck,
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma
tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned t
hat the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could sl
ow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
--
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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They're not as slick as Robin's but these 2" extensions work a lot better th
an the stock T handle position. They're pretty easy to make. If anybody wan
ts some let me know and we'll make a batch.
--Dave
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Disregard my last offer--Steve sells the same thing.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Michael Sausen <michael@sausen.net> wrote:
> Greg Hale originally did the design and I believe Steve DiNeri is selling
> them. http://capsteve.wix.com/iflyrv10
>
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JimVillani
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:09 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
>
>
> Robin,
>
> Where did you get your seat handles from?
>
> Jim
>
> N10KQ
>
> 81.5 hrs
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
>
>
> Rob,
>
> Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my
> front seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had
> them and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am
> not sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for
> emergency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a
> rear facing handle extension that one pushes down?
>
> The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square
> tubing. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Robin
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
> To: rv10-list
> Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
>
>
> Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
> that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
> slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
>
>
> -Rob
>
>
> --
>
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
>
> Woodinville, WA
>
> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Seat adjusters |
I bought some just like those from Steve Dinieri at IflyRV10.com and they work
fine. I originally had the ones that Greg Hale designed. They looked great and
worked well, but the thin wall of the lever eventually gave out. I looked at
Steve's version of the Greg Hale lever and they are really nice, but won't match
the holes I drilled for the Greg Hale lever. So, I settled on the T handle
extensions and am satisfied.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Steve Dinieri's seat adjustment levers shown here http://capsteve.wix.com/iflyrv10#!__seat-lever are a real improvement over the originals designed and built by Greg Hale. They are much more robust and the attachment to the seat mechanism is very simple.
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Seat adjusters |
Yeah, I made mine but if I knew they were available I'd have just
bought his extensions as well.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:18 AM, dmaib@me.com <dmaib@me.com> wrote:
>
> I bought some just like those from Steve Dinieri at IflyRV10.com and they work
fine. I originally had the ones that Greg Hale designed. They looked great and
worked well, but the thin wall of the lever eventually gave out. I looked at
Steve's version of the Greg Hale lever and they are really nice, but won't match
the holes I drilled for the Greg Hale lever. So, I settled on the T handle
extensions and am satisfied.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
> Transition Trainer
> New Smyrna Beach, FL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396172#396172
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
At 11:55 AM 3/12/2013 Tuesday, you wrote:
>Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF that had
4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and connected
the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo again with the
group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate the post.
>
>Thanks,
>Robin
Hi Robin,
Here are some pictures of how I did the GPS antenna installations on my RV-8.
Works great. Blast tubes keeps them cool. No unsightly pucks on the dash!
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 140+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| Subject: | Re: cabin top trimming data point |
At the RV-10 Composite course we just did, we brought out a whole pile
of tools and settled on the following as being the best:
Permagrit Composite cutoff wheel on a Die Grinder for trimming all but
the thickest parts
Angle Die Grinder with a 1.5 or 2" Drum sander took down the thick stuff
very well, use it when you've trimmed off all the flange are are working
on the actual frame. Maybe 80 grit?
A nice long block with 30 or 40 grit was great for cleaning up after the
sanding drum/wheel.
And a tungsten or permagrit bit for making small radius' was essential.
Other traditional cut-off wheels were too slow and a straight line air
sander didn't have the power to be as fast as a hand block. Sanding
discs weren't as fast as the drums
We didn't have, but would like to have tried, the composite jig saw
(although my experience with those in the past is that the composite
cut-off wheels are almost as fast and cut better lines), or the
composite tips for an oscillating tool.
Here are pics of what worked:
http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Images/products/medium/permagrit-RD2.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yWy%2BZk1vL._SL500_SS500_.jpg
http://di1-4.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/b4/5b/37/103251036-260x260-0-0_Dura+Block+Dura+Block+Long+Board+3+Piece+Durablock.jpg
http://www.permagrit.com/images/rf5c.jpg
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: cabin top trimming data point |
I turned most of the 'excess' into FG dust with a 4" angle grinder from
Harbor freight. Used a fan to blow the dust out the shop door.
Also used my air angle grinder with a 3" cutoff wheel ..... angled so I
could 'swipe' at the edge for finer work.
Dual action air sander with 6" pad worked great also.
PVC pipe with stick on sandpaper makes a great tool for rounded corners
..... and comes in a lot of great sizes!!
I've also used pill bottles, spice bottles etc. with stick on sandpaper.
Dremel tool with carbide bits/cutoff wheels for tight spots.
Linn
On 3/13/2013 12:59 PM, Tim Farrell wrote:
>
> At the RV-10 Composite course we just did, we brought out a whole pile
> of tools and settled on the following as being the best:
>
> Permagrit Composite cutoff wheel on a Die Grinder for trimming all but
> the thickest parts
> Angle Die Grinder with a 1.5 or 2" Drum sander took down the thick
> stuff very well, use it when you've trimmed off all the flange are are
> working on the actual frame. Maybe 80 grit?
> A nice long block with 30 or 40 grit was great for cleaning up after
> the sanding drum/wheel.
> And a tungsten or permagrit bit for making small radius' was essential.
>
> Other traditional cut-off wheels were too slow and a straight line air
> sander didn't have the power to be as fast as a hand block. Sanding
> discs weren't as fast as the drums
>
> We didn't have, but would like to have tried, the composite jig saw
> (although my experience with those in the past is that the composite
> cut-off wheels are almost as fast and cut better lines), or the
> composite tips for an oscillating tool.
>
> Here are pics of what worked:
>
> http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Images/products/medium/permagrit-RD2.jpg
> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yWy%2BZk1vL._SL500_SS500_.jpg
> http://di1-4.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/b4/5b/37/103251036-260x260-0-0_Dura+Block+Dura+Block+Long+Board+3+Piece+Durablock.jpg
>
> http://www.permagrit.com/images/rf5c.jpg
>
>
> Tim
>
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| Subject: | Re: cabin top trimming data point |
I just purchased a carbide blade at a menards ( similar to lowes). It was manufactured
by bosch and it said 30 grit, part number is U30RF1. It really did work
well for initial trimming, thanks for the tip.
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I turned most of the 'excess' into FG dust with a 4" angle grinder from Harbor
freight. Used a fan to blow the dust out the shop door.
> Also used my air angle grinder with a 3" cutoff wheel ..... angled so I could
'swipe' at the edge for finer work.
> Dual action air sander with 6" pad worked great also.
> PVC pipe with stick on sandpaper makes a great tool for rounded corners .....
and comes in a lot of great sizes!!
> I've also used pill bottles, spice bottles etc. with stick on sandpaper.
> Dremel tool with carbide bits/cutoff wheels for tight spots.
> Linn
>
> On 3/13/2013 12:59 PM, Tim Farrell wrote:
>>
>> At the RV-10 Composite course we just did, we brought out a whole pile of tools
and settled on the following as being the best:
>>
>> Permagrit Composite cutoff wheel on a Die Grinder for trimming all but the thickest
parts
>> Angle Die Grinder with a 1.5 or 2" Drum sander took down the thick stuff very
well, use it when you've trimmed off all the flange are are working on the actual
frame. Maybe 80 grit?
>> A nice long block with 30 or 40 grit was great for cleaning up after the sanding
drum/wheel.
>> And a tungsten or permagrit bit for making small radius' was essential.
>>
>> Other traditional cut-off wheels were too slow and a straight line air sander
didn't have the power to be as fast as a hand block. Sanding discs weren't as
fast as the drums
>>
>> We didn't have, but would like to have tried, the composite jig saw (although
my experience with those in the past is that the composite cut-off wheels are
almost as fast and cut better lines), or the composite tips for an oscillating
tool.
>>
>> Here are pics of what worked:
>>
>> http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/Images/products/medium/permagrit-RD2.jpg
>> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51yWy%2BZk1vL._SL500_SS500_.jpg
>> http://di1-4.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/b4/5b/37/103251036-260x260-0-0_Dura+Block+Dura+Block+Long+Board+3+Piece+Durablock.jpg
>> http://www.permagrit.com/images/rf5c.jpg
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
Would there be any temperature concerns for the antennas being located in
the engine compartment?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: GPS Shelf FWF
At 11:55 AM 3/12/2013 Tuesday, you wrote:
>Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF
that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and
connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo
again with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate
the post.
>
>Thanks,
>Robin
Hi Robin,
Here are some pictures of how I did the GPS antenna installations on my
RV-8. Works great. Blast tubes keeps them cool. No unsightly pucks on the
dash!
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 140+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
Mode
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
Anyone have an address for Steven (or whoever sells these seat adjustment
levers)? The email address on the website bounced. I might get one for my
right seat. thanks..
-Rob
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robin, I'm talking about the other handle, though I was thinking about
> replacing the other one. That said, I don't adjust it frequently.
> Thanks...
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com>wrote:
>
>> Rob,****
>>
>> Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my
>> front seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always had
>> them and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design. I am
>> not sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to access for
>> emergency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you could place a
>> rear facing handle extension that one pushes down?****
>>
>> The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square
>> tubing. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Good luck,****
>>
>> Robin****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Kochman
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm concerned
>> that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency, which could
>> slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Rob
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -- ****
>>
>> Rob Kochman
>> RV-10 Flying since March 2011****
>>
>> Woodinville, WA****
>>
>> http://kochman.net/N819K****
>>
>> * *
>>
>> * *
>>
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>
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> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> Woodinville, WA
> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: seat back handle improvement? |
There are two email addresses on the site. On is rvsteve and the other
is sales. One of them always bounces, but the other does not. I have had
the best luck calling Steve on the phone. He is sometimes hard to get
hold of.
David Maib
40559 Flying
635 hours
On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
Anyone have an address for Steven (or whoever sells these seat
adjustment levers)? The email address on the website bounced. I might
get one for my right seat. thanks..
-Rob
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
Robin, I'm talking about the other handle, though I was thinking about
replacing the other one. That said, I don't adjust it frequently.
Thanks...
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com>
wrote:
Rob,
Not sure you are speaking of this handle but the photo attached is of my
front seat position adjustment handles prior to install. I have always
had them and thought they were a huge improvement over the stock design.
I am not sure how beneficial they would be for a rear passenger to
access for emergency egress. If you were to design a set yourself you
could place a rear facing handle extension that one pushes down?
The first generation handle extensions were made of thin walled square
tubing. Thicker tubing improved the longevity substantially.
Good luck,
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: seat back handle improvement?
Anyone know of a better solution for the seat back handle? I'm
concerned that the handle may be hard to reach quickly in an emergency,
which could slow down egress from the rear seats. Thanks...
-Rob
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
have 110 hours on mine and had the same set up in my RV-4 for 350 hours with no
issues. Not saying it won't be a problem, but no issues for me so far. YMMV
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:51 PM, "William Greenley" <wgreenley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Would there be any temperature concerns for the antennas being located in
> the engine compartment?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: GPS Shelf FWF
>
> At 11:55 AM 3/12/2013 Tuesday, you wrote:
>> Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF
> that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and
> connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo
> again with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate
> the post.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> Here are some pictures of how I did the GPS antenna installations on my
> RV-8. Works great. Blast tubes keeps them cool. No unsightly pucks on the
> dash!
>
> Matt
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 140+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
> Mode
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Shelf FWF |
750 hours in RV4 470 so far in a 10 so far so good.
Dick Sipp
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GPS Shelf FWF
have 110 hours on mine and had the same set up in my RV-4 for 350 hours with
no issues. Not saying it won't be a problem, but no issues for me so far.
YMMV
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:51 PM, "William Greenley" <wgreenley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Would there be any temperature concerns for the antennas being located in
> the engine compartment?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: GPS Shelf FWF
>
> At 11:55 AM 3/12/2013 Tuesday, you wrote:
>> Someone on the RV-10 list shared a photo of their GPS shelf mounted FWF
> that had 4+ GPS antenna mounted. I recall the shelf was painted black and
> connected the firewall with the motor mount? Can the owner share the photo
> again with the group? I need something similar for my 8A and cannot locate
> the post.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> Here are some pictures of how I did the GPS antenna installations on my
> RV-8. Works great. Blast tubes keeps them cool. No unsightly pucks on
> the
> dash!
>
> Matt
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 140+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
> Mode
>
>
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