RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/18/13


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 09:55 AM - Square footage for painting (woxofswa)
     2. 10:33 AM - Re: Square footage for painting (Pascal)
     3. 10:48 AM - Re: Square footage for painting (Bob Leffler)
     4. 02:32 PM - Re: Square footage for painting (Carl Froehlich)
     5. 03:02 PM - Re: Square footage for painting (Pascal)
     6. 05:16 PM - Re: Square footage for painting (Michael Kraus)
     7. 05:36 PM - Re: Square footage for painting (Bob Leffler)
     8. 06:00 PM - Re: Square footage for painting (woxofswa)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:55:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Square footage for painting
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting materials/cost purposes? Thanks in advance. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489


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    Time: 10:33:54 AM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    from Tims site I used about 3 gallons of white, but I could have used a whole lot more paint than I did. My goal was to paint the plane enough to hold me over for a few years than get it redone, so 4-5 gallons may be more appropriate. -----Original Message----- From: woxofswa Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Square footage for painting Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting materials/cost purposes? Thanks in advance. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489


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    Time: 10:48:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    No, but I can tell you how much Sherwin Williams Jetglo and Acryglo I used. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote: Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting materials/cost purposes? Thanks in advance. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489


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    Time: 02:32:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    From: Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    For high end products (PPG multicolor base/clear coat), $4000 in material is a good guess - a little less if you know what you are doing. The hangar paint booth was 12'X26'x8' tall, 2x4 frame with plastic covering (wings and tail not on the plane for paint). I live near a PPG store so I bought paint as needed, but always made sure I had enough for whatever section I was doing. Bottom line - if you can find someone to paint your plane for under $12K, jump at it. The RV-10 is a bear to paint. I did the RV-8A with the same base/clear coat products but the shear size of the RV-10 made for many hours of sanding and rework for me - a typical amateur painter. Carl On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote: > > Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting materials/cost purposes? > > Thanks in advance. > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:02:30 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    Granted I'm no pro, but if someone is on a budget, I painted my whole plane for under $1.5K, that included my paint gun and materials (sand paper). I do not have a professional looking plane by ANY means, but it does the job of protecting it. Because I painted in my garage, in California I was limited to only a waterbased paint. I used Stewarts system with good enough success- http://www.stewartsystems.aero/default.aspx. A good painter, like Don McDonald made my recoated wing looks very nice, so a good painter can get a nice job done with this paint. Spray painting is actually a lot of fun! I did it myself and would do it again. Worse case, a professional will take your job and repaint with less paint and make it look really good. An example, a local plane had a terrible paint job and after 1 week at a good shop it came back looking great, cost $4000K since all the prep involved was sanding for 2 coats of paint. If I can paint the plane in a garage , with no prior experience in spray painting, anyone can do it. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Froehlich Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Square footage for painting For high end products (PPG multicolor base/clear coat), $4000 in material is a good guess - a little less if you know what you are doing. The hangar paint booth was 12'X26'x8' tall, 2x4 frame with plastic covering (wings and tail not on the plane for paint). I live near a PPG store so I bought paint as needed, but always made sure I had enough for whatever section I was doing. Bottom line - if you can find someone to paint your plane for under $12K, jump at it. The RV-10 is a bear to paint. I did the RV-8A with the same base/clear coat products but the shear size of the RV-10 made for many hours of sanding and rework for me - a typical amateur painter. Carl On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote: > > Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting > materials/cost purposes? > > Thanks in advance. > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing > kit and FWF kit in progress. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489 > >


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    Time: 05:16:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    The paint adherence is only as good as the surface preparation. The hardest part of painting is the surface preparation. Once that is done, painting i s fairly quick. I painted my RV-4 and was very happy with it. Apparently Van's is too, beca use here it is! http://vansaircraft.com/public/rv4.htm But for my RV-10, I wasn't going to touch it..... especially after all that f iberglass work.... I knew how big of a job the -4 was and the -10 is even b igger.... But, if painting your own plane is on your bucket list, this might be your o nly opportunity!! :-) -Mike Kraus RV-4 sold :-( RV-10 flying :-) KitFox SS7 Radial building :-) On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:01 PM, "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote: > > Granted I'm no pro, but if someone is on a budget, I painted my whole plan e for under $1.5K, that included my paint gun and materials (sand paper). I d o not have a professional looking plane by ANY means, but it does the job of protecting it. Because I painted in my garage, in California I was limited t o only a waterbased paint. I used Stewarts system with good enough success- h ttp://www.stewartsystems.aero/default.aspx. A good painter, like Don McDonal d made my recoated wing looks very nice, so a good painter can get a nice jo b done with this paint. Spray painting is actually a lot of fun! > I did it myself and would do it again. Worse case, a professional will tak e your job and repaint with less paint and make it look really good. An exam ple, a local plane had a terrible paint job and after 1 week at a good shop i t came back looking great, cost $4000K since all the prep involved was sandi ng for 2 coats of paint. > If I can paint the plane in a garage , with no prior experience in spray p ainting, anyone can do it. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Carl Froehlich > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Square footage for painting > t> > > For high end products (PPG multicolor base/clear coat), $4000 in material i s a good guess - a little less if you know what you are doing. The hangar p aint booth was 12'X26'x8' tall, 2x4 frame with plastic covering (wings and t ail not on the plane for paint). > > I live near a PPG store so I bought paint as needed, but always made sure I had enough for whatever section I was doing. > > Bottom line - if you can find someone to paint your plane for under $12K, j ump at it. The RV-10 is a bear to paint. I did the RV-8A with the same bas e/clear coat products but the shear size of the RV-10 made for many hours of sanding and rework for me - a typical amateur painter. > > Carl > > On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting m aterials/cost purposes? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> -------- >> Myron Nelson >> Mesa, AZ >> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing k it and FWF kit in progress. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >


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    Time: 05:36:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    I'll add to my previous email...... I spent about $3,700 on paint from a Sherwin Williams distributor. $300 on materials like tape, paper, mek, plastic, etc. The painter spent 99 hours and my wife and I probably put in another 30 hours or so each assisting with the masking and tape. Most the time was consumed by masking for the four colors And the compound curves of the trim lines. Bob Sent from my iPad On Mar 18, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote: > > For high end products (PPG multicolor base/clear coat), $4000 in material is a good guess - a little less if you know what you are doing. The hangar paint booth was 12'X26'x8' tall, 2x4 frame with plastic covering (wings and tail not on the plane for paint). > > I live near a PPG store so I bought paint as needed, but always made sure I had enough for whatever section I was doing. > > Bottom line - if you can find someone to paint your plane for under $12K, jump at it. The RV-10 is a bear to paint. I did the RV-8A with the same base/clear coat products but the shear size of the RV-10 made for many hours of sanding and rework for me - a typical amateur painter. > > Carl > > On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:53 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Anybody calc out a square footage or similar area dimension for painting materials/cost purposes? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> -------- >> Myron Nelson >> Mesa, AZ >> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396489#396489 > > > > >


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    Time: 06:00:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    Thanks for the input. What I was actually doing was querying a couple of auto shops near the airport to paint the pieces for me to final assemble. They were asking for approximate square footage since RV10 meant nothing to them, but a couple of them have done aircraft projects before. In the end, I decided against the auto shop idea. I still might self paint for the challenge, but for the time it would take me I can easily pick up extra trips at work and be money and time ahead. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. Finishing kit and FWF kit in progress. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396555#396555




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