RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 03/20/13


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:22 AM - Re: Routing Fuel Line To Spider (Bob Leffler)
     2. 05:19 AM - Re: Routing Fuel Line To Spider (Sean Stephens)
     3. 05:35 AM - FW: Panel design (Carlos Trigo)
     4. 05:50 AM - Re: Panel design (johngoodman)
     5. 06:21 AM - Re: FW: Panel design (Jesse Saint)
     6. 06:45 AM - Re: Routing Fuel Line To Spider (Bob Leffler)
     7. 07:16 AM - Re: FW: Panel design (Robin Marks)
     8. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Panel design (Carlos Trigo)
     9. 08:14 AM - Re: Re: Panel design (Werner Schneider)
    10. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Panel design (Carlos Trigo)
    11. 08:57 AM - Re: Square footage for painting  (Dan Masys)
    12. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Panel design (Les Kearney)
    13. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: Panel design (Pascal)
    14. 11:11 AM - Re: FW: Panel design (Gordon Anderson)
    15. 11:16 AM - Cabin heat control knobs (Carlos Trigo)
    16. 11:51 AM - Re: Cabin heat control knobs (Carl Froehlich)
    17. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: Panel design (Linn)
    18. 12:33 PM - Re: Panel design (Bob Turner)
    19. 01:33 PM - Re: Re: Panel design (Steve T)
    20. 03:51 PM - RV-10 chases me on the Autobahn ;-) (Mike Whisky)
    21. 04:15 PM - Re: RV-10 chases me on the Autobahn ;-) (Jae Chang)
    22. 04:16 PM - Re: Cabin heat control knobs (Jesse Saint)
    23. 04:38 PM - Re: Re: Panel design (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
    24. 06:39 PM - Re: RV-10 chases me on the Autobahn ;-) (dmaib@me.com)
    25. 08:56 PM - Disabling front cabin heat? (Rob Kochman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:22:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Routing Fuel Line To Spider
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Sean, My came from Lycoming mounted in the same location as yours. The fuel line runs vertically beneath the spider. Since I installed Rod Bowers ram air mod, my servo is not located in the traditional location. I can take pictures this weekend if you need them. Bob Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote: > > My engine came with the spider located between cylinders 3 and 5 with the fuel line access coming up between those cylinders. Most of the pics I have seen, the spider is situated so the line runs up between 1 and 3 which makes for easier routing. > > Does anyone have the line routing up between 3 and 5 and have pics of how they ran the line from the servo? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 (fwf) > > > >


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    Time: 05:19:29 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Routing Fuel Line To Spider
    What I'm trying to figure out is after dropping between the cylinders the line should curve at the sump bolts and run along the sump over the 1 and 3 intakes or drop past the sump bolts and just free hang under the intakes. I'm placing the red cube mounted similar to others by the servo. Trying to envision the best route to take as I have to order that pricey hose and would like to only order one of them. :) -Sean On 3/20/13 4:21 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: > > Sean, > > My came from Lycoming mounted in the same location as yours. The fuel line runs vertically beneath the spider. Since I installed Rod Bowers ram air mod, my servo is not located in the traditional location. I can take pictures this weekend if you need them. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote: > >> >> My engine came with the spider located between cylinders 3 and 5 with the fuel line access coming up between those cylinders. Most of the pics I have seen, the spider is situated so the line runs up between 1 and 3 which makes for easier routing. >> >> Does anyone have the line routing up between 3 and 5 and have pics of how they ran the line from the servo? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 (fwf) >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:35:43 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: FW: Panel design
    Guys Not directly related with RV-10's, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout. Regards Carlos


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    Time: 05:50:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641


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    Time: 06:21:53 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: Panel design
    I use TurboCAD software. It is relatively inexpensive. If you found some free CAD software that would allow for 2D design and output to DWG or DXF format, that should work well. Then you just need to draw up your instruments and your radio stack and work on the arrangement on the panel with the constraints behind the panel taken into account. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > Guys > > Not directly related with RV-10=92s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout. > > Regards > Carlos > > > >


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    Time: 06:45:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Routing Fuel Line To Spider
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    I just reviewed the photos I have online, but didn't have any that shows what you are looking for. I have a 90 degree elbow between the sump and fuel servo. The servo is horizontal instead of the traditional vertical orientation. I fabricated a mounting bracket that uses the same studs on the sump as the elbow. I've mounted the fuel flow sensor to that, which is almost directly below the spider. The Lycoming supplied hose that was installed is a little long, but I can make it work. All my other hoses aren't the standard lengths and were custom made by tsflightlines. Remind me again if I don't follow up with a picture this weekend. Bob Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote: What I'm trying to figure out is after dropping between the cylinders the line should curve at the sump bolts and run along the sump over the 1 and 3 intakes or drop past the sump bolts and just free hang under the intakes. I'm placing the red cube mounted similar to others by the servo. Trying to envision the best route to take as I have to order that pricey hose and would like to only order one of them. :) -Sean On 3/20/13 4:21 AM, Bob Leffler wrote: > > Sean, > > My came from Lycoming mounted in the same location as yours. The fuel line runs vertically beneath the spider. Since I installed Rod Bowers ram air mod, my servo is not located in the traditional location. I can take pictures this weekend if you need them. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:09 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> wrote: > >> >> My engine came with the spider located between cylinders 3 and 5 with the fuel line access coming up between those cylinders. Most of the pics I have seen, the spider is situated so the line runs up between 1 and 3 which makes for easier routing. >> >> Does anyone have the line routing up between 3 and 5 and have pics of how they ran the line from the servo? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 (fwf) >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 07:16:17 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: Panel design
    I used XPanel. Its not free but IMHO its worth the $80.00. It saves much ti me with the RV blank panel templates pre-designated plus all the avionics I needed already in the system. Simple enough to learn and use. If you want free; Google Chrome has a free CAD style app you can download f or free and use to lay out a kitchen, backyard or panel. Just go to the Chr ome app store. Sorry on my tablet now or would send you a link. Robin Carlos Trigo <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: Guys Not directly related with RV-10=92s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout. Regards Carlos


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    Time: 08:07:40 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    I know John, I did it several times many moons ago ... But having a simple to use software, which has the actual digital pictures of the various equipments that can be dragged with the mouse to the panel is really that simple. No learning curve at all. By the way, I do remember using, not so long ago, one called =93epanelbuilder=94 or something like that, that I can=92t seem to find now. Anyone knows about this? Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de Mar=E7o de 2013 12:51 Subject: RV10-List: Re: Panel design --> < <mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net> johngoodman@earthlink.net> A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 List 7-Day http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:14:59 AM PST US
    From: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    On my Glastar I did the paper setup first then used an acrylic 3mm "sheet" to mount them, so I could see what is behind. Werner On 20.03.2013 13:50, johngoodman wrote: > > A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 > >


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    Time: 08:54:18 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    Werner For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will use that technique or something similar. What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to figure out what goes where, what fits and what don=92t =85. Initial approach to the layout Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Werner Schneider Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de Mar=E7o de 2013 15:14 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Panel design <mailto:glastar@gmx.net> glastar@gmx.net> On my Glastar I did the paper setup first then used an acrylic 3mm "sheet" to mount them, so I could see what is behind. Werner On 20.03.2013 13:50, johngoodman wrote: > --> < <mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net> johngoodman@earthlink.net> > > A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 > > > > > > > > > > > List 7-Day http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 08:57:07 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Masys" <dmasys@u.washington.edu>
    Subject: Re: Square footage for painting
    I think you can negotiate what you want regarding reassembly with most paint shops. My RV-7A was painted at Gillespie field in San Diego, and the painter just left a hangar full of painted assemblies (rudder, elevators, flaps, ailerons, canopy) sitting there for me to put back on the plane. Which I remember doing on a day when the temperature was 102 degrees. :-P The shop in Arkansas used a local A&P for disassembly and reassembly and included that in the price, saying it was part of their normal workflow with certificated aircraft and they didn't really want to change the process to have a builder working on his plane in their shop areas. Which was fine with me since it seemed like a pretty toxic environment - no dust or pverspray but lots of fumes that everybody was breathing in. But I sure checked everything when I picked the plane up, for which I flew the RV-7A with a CFI friend from Nashville over to Arkansas. This gave the opportunity for one of the coolest pictures of the -10 fresh out of the paint shop, with its little brother: http://faculty.washington.edu/dmasys/RV7-RV10-Mena.jpg Funny story about that RV-10 paint job was that I took the plane in sometime in November of 2007 and they told me there would be a ten day delay in starting the project, since deer hunting season started the day after I delivered the plane, and the entire shop staff would be out in the woods. :) -Dan >From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Square footage for painting > >Just looking into this also as I'm 90% done and 90% to go. :) > >One thing I was curious about is does the builder normally do the control surface removal and re-assembly >at the paint shop? I think I would want to just to have piece of mind that it was put back together per >plans. > >-Sean #40303 (fwf)


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    Time: 09:11:37 AM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    Carlos You can use Panel Planner to do the layout. It has templates that also have slave requirements for behind the panel. You can drag and rearrange until you are happy with the result. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2013-03-20, at 9:53 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > Werner > > For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will use t hat technique or something similar. > > What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to figure out what goes where, what fits and what don=99t . Initial approa ch to the layout > > Carlos > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Werner Schneider > Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 15:14 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Panel design > > > On my Glastar I did the paper setup first then used an acrylic 3mm "sheet" to mount them, so I could see what is behind. > > Werner > > On 20.03.2013 13:50, johngoodman wrote: > > --> <johngoodman@earthlink.net> > > > > A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better an d doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. > > John > > > > -------- > > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 10:27:59 AM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10flyer@live.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    If you own Photoshop, or visio or can locate a free app that can read the Vans panel than should be able to grab pictures off of brochures or on the web of your planned avionics and place it on the Vans panel. I think I measured all the dimensions than made the templates in Visio once I worked out the spacing issues I put it all in photoshop to see how it all looked. From: Carlos Trigo Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Panel design Werner For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will use that technique or something similar. What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to figure out what goes where, what fits and what don=99t . Initial approach to the layout Carlos -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Werner Schneider Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 15:14 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Panel design On my Glastar I did the paper setup first then used an acrylic 3mm "sheet" to mount them, so I could see what is behind. Werner On 20.03.2013 13:50, johngoodman wrote: > --> <johngoodman@earthlink.net> > > A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:11:02 AM PST US
    From: Gordon Anderson <mregoan@hispeed.ch>
    Subject: Re: FW: Panel design
    Hi Carlos, If you're after 2D CAD software, you can download Dassault DraftSight free. This is not a "panel planner" in the sense of showing the instruments and avionics, but more of a "hole planner" and something you can then use to CNC cut the panel. Attached is the .dwg file for my RV-10 panel (in development). Cheers, Gordon On Mar 20, 2013, at 1:35 PM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > Guys > > Not directly related with RV-10=92s, but I wonder if somebody knows about a free software to help design the instrument panel layout. > > Regards > Carlos > > > >


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    Time: 11:16:11 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
    Subject: Cabin heat control knobs
    Regarding the cabin heat system, I have a couple of questions: - Where did you put the control knobs of the cables which control the rear and front cabin heat? Is it good to put the front heat control knob in the instrument panel, and the rear heat control knob behind the front seats, thus leaving this control (only) reachable by the rear passengers? - Those of you who used the modified "T" (VA175), in order to have left / right control, where did you put the control knob for this feature? Cheers Carlos


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    Time: 11:51:19 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Cabin heat control knobs
    Both heat control knobs need to be accessible to the pilot. I find that 90% of the time when I have heat on I just have the rear on. I find no real need for a left/right control - but to each his/her own. I have the oil cooler air butterfly valve (blank knob) control on the pilot only side of the panel, next to the alternate engine air (red knob) control. The heat knobs are next to each other on the co-pilot side (but reachable from the pilot seat). That way the co-pilot will not mistakenly touch the oil cooler or alt air controls. All controls are on the panel apron. When you pick the spots, make sure you do not create interference for full stick travel. Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: Cabin heat control knobs Regarding the cabin heat system, I have a couple of questions: - Where did you put the control knobs of the cables which control the rear and front cabin heat? Is it good to put the front heat control knob in the instrument panel, and the rear heat control knob behind the front seats, thus leaving this control (only) reachable by the rear passengers? - Those of you who used the modified "T" (VA175), in order to have left / right control, where did you put the control knob for this feature? Cheers Carlos


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    Time: 12:00:05 PM PST US
    From: Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    One thing to keep in mind ..... equipment mounting data can be had from the manufacturer but may not include the dimensions of the bezel ..... which you need to know when mounting items close together. Linn On 3/20/2013 11:53 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > > Werner > > For the actual layout in the panel, in order to cut the holes, I will > use that technique or something similar. > > What I am looking right now is to begin from scratch, trying to figure > out what goes where, what fits and what don't .... Initial approach to > the layout > > Carlos > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Werner > Schneider > Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de Mar=E7o de 2013 15:14 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Panel design > > <mailto:glastar@gmx.net>> > > On my Glastar I did the paper setup first then used an acrylic 3mm > "sheet" to mount them, so I could see what is behind. > > Werner > > On 20.03.2013 13:50, johngoodman wrote: > > > > --> <johngoodman@earthlink.net <mailto:johngoodman@earthlink.net>> > > > > > > A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work > better and doesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty > cheap. > > > John > > > > > > -------- > > > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> 13 >


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    Time: 12:33:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    Don't forget to sit in the real airplane, in the actual flying seating position, and look at paper cutouts on the panel. You can check the ease and feel as you reach for things; that nothing important is hidden under the glare shield; and that important things like the PFD are in focus (important for me as I wear bifocals!). -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396678#396678


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    Time: 01:33:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    From: Steve T <aircraftspecialty@gmail.com>
    We will be making an announcement once we get the website fully updated. We are planning on videos of the whole process. But for now, if you are interested, we offer Cnc design, panel cutting, powd ercoat and screen labeling of panels at incredible prices. We will make an a nnouncement once we have the full site up, but go to www.aircraftspecialty.com for more Information. Or, please email us at steve@aircraftspecialty.com We have already started designing and cutting panels and would be happy to w ork with you. We are home builders and will be happy to help you with all t he little ins and outs of getting your panel perfect. Have a great day Steve Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2013, at 10:06, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > I know John, I did it several times many moons ago ... > > But having a simple to use software, which has the actual digital pictures of the various equipments that can be dragged with the mouse to the panel i s really that simple. No learning curve at all. > > By the way, I do remember using, not so long ago, one called =9Cepan elbuilder=9D or something like that, that I can=99t seem to find now. Anyone knows about this? > > Carlos > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman > Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 12:51 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Panel design > > --> <johngoodman@earthlink.net> > > A large sheet of paper cut to the size of the panel would work better and d oesn't have a learning curve. Number 2 pencils are pretty cheap. > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396641#396641 > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 03:51:37 PM PST US
    Subject: RV-10 chases me on the Autobahn ;-)
    From: "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Today I took my RV-10 fuselage from the paintshop to the airport. In the stop-motion video it looks as if the RV is chasing me through Switzerland, funny to watch. Please don't ask why I kept the rear trunk window open while unloading the RV, I guess I meant to hide the secret on how to do it ;-) Wings & tail feathers are coming shortly as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjGn8UKagJM ....and yes in the tunnel I accelerated to the speed of light as the the video proofs. Mike -------- RV-10 builder (interior &amp; finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396695#396695


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    Time: 04:15:30 PM PST US
    From: Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 chases me on the Autobahn ;-)
    Hi Mike.. congrats on the move! Looks like a beautiful paint job. I am jealous. How many miles, i mean km, was your drive to the airport? Jae -- #40533 RV-10 First flight 10/19/2011 Phase 1 Done 11/26/2011 do not archive


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    Time: 04:16:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin heat control knobs
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    I put these controls and the air filter bypass on a plate that attached to t he rear of the panel with screws from the front. The knobs fit through an ov al hole cut in the panel. Otherwise the controls will have to be removed if y ou want to take the panel out. Makes service much easier. Sent from my iPad On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:14 PM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote: > Regarding the cabin heat system, I have a couple of questions: > > - Where did you put the control knobs of the cables which control t he rear and front cabin heat? > Is it good to put the front heat control knob in the instrument panel, and the rear heat control knob behind the front seats, thus leaving this contro l (only) reachable by the rear passengers? > > - Those of you who used the modified =9CT=9D (VA175), i n order to have left / right control, where did you put the control knob for this feature? > > Cheers > Carlos > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 04:38:13 PM PST US
    From: "Dick & Vicki Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Panel design
    In addition to Bob's excellent advice, when it comes to switch layout; think about a logical order of switch usage i.e. going down a row rather than jumping around when running the checklist. Also consider where the important autopilot power switch and fuel pump switches will be; these should readily available and easily reached. Finally the primary flight display should be as close to centered in front of the pilots head as possible. Looking cross cockpit at the flight display will bug you. Stay away from unconventional arrangements; most certified panels are similar for a reason, they work. A good conventional panel will add much to your enjoyment of the airplane and add to resale value. Dick Sipp 470 hours Dick Sipp -----Original Message----- From: Bob Turner Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Panel design Don't forget to sit in the real airplane, in the actual flying seating position, and look at paper cutouts on the panel. You can check the ease and feel as you reach for things; that nothing important is hidden under the glare shield; and that important things like the PFD are in focus (important for me as I wear bifocals!). -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396678#396678


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    Time: 06:39:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: RV-10 chases me on the Autobahn ;-)
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    Very cool Michael! The airplane looks beautiful. BTW, package from Mary will be heading your way tomorrow. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396708#396708


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    Time: 08:56:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Disabling front cabin heat?
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    Has anyone disabled the front cabin heat in their RV-10? I'm finding that even on really cold days, I only need partial rear heat to keep things warm, and I never use the front heat, since I want to minimize heat behind the panel. In the warm summer months, I don't want all that hot air blowing on the firewall. I don't think I can just disconnect the air hose to the muff, since the exhaust pipe would probably get too hot. If nothing else, I figure I could disconnect the air hose between the muff and firewall at the firewall and just point it down toward the cowl exit. Of course, I would have to seal the hole in the firewall. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K




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