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2. 05:39 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Linn)
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4. 06:34 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Linn)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Don McDonald)
6. 07:47 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Rene)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (AirMike)
8. 08:25 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Kelly McMullen)
9. 10:09 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Tim Olson)
10. 10:38 AM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Stephen Blank,DDS)
11. 07:45 PM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Don McDonald)
12. 07:59 PM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Kelly McMullen)
13. 08:24 PM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Don McDonald)
14. 08:34 PM - Re: Airport Tower Closures (Kelly McMullen)
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They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get
congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of
useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel
taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the
funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing
too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to
those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In
another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting
cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the
budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions
he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl
choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act
now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to
fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA.
We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to
the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from
Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy
in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman
know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a
disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came.
So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't
care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play
golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and
needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition.
That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room
keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the
towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the
civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get
past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing
towers IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
>
> They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get
> congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping
> of useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes
> and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the
> black from the funds it collects.
> This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is
> closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes,
> and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't
> find a job In another tower. Stupid.
> My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are
> getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as
> if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget,
> obligstions he made while working, so congress can play games. This is
> by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path
> unless we ALL act now.
> Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable
> way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be
> lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly
> an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar
> jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to
> get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job? Pick up your
> phone and let your congressman know you are angry or they will do
> nothing and real people will suffer.
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
> Port Saint Lucie, FL
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The
president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only
congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that
you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the
unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their pay
should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have to be a
dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman that work for
the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things could be
passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the extremes
of either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name
(Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers. They
are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them. If no
one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue the
country is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is
our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS
On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a
> disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So
> he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care
> what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf.
> I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to
> be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't
> ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting
> bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get
> laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It
> ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a
> pretty flexible bunch.
> Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing
> towers IMHO.
> Linn
>
>
> On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
>
> They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get
> congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of
> useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel
> taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the
> funds it collects.
> This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing
> too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to
> those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In
> another tower. Stupid.
> My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting
> cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the
> budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions
> he made while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl
> choice. Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act
> now.
> Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to
> fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA.
> We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to
> the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from
> Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy
> in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman
> know you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
> Port Saint Lucie, FL
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
Like you I call and write, and I encourage others to do the same. True,
the President doesn't write legislation, but he surely directs policy
and signs legislation that he likes. My country is in deep trouble and
I see no progress in fixing that. I will survive (for a long time,
hopefully) but I fear for my children and my grandkids future. There's
no doubt the basic problems lie in the legislators that cater to their
constituents because their jobs are on the line every four years. The
voters spoke, and I think we will suffer for it. As for the golf ....
it's just what I see.
Linn ..... last call.
On 3/24/2013 9:08 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
>
> The president in America does not write legislation, congress does.
> The president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created.
> Only congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your
> opinion that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt
> care about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
> Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their
> pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not
> have to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and
> congressman that work for the common good. There is a ton of common
> ground, many things could be passed if they stop playing political
> games and pandering to the extremes of either party.
> Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state
> name (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone
> numbers. They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing
> with them. If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They
> have no clue the country is pissed off with inaction.
> FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide?
> Is our military big enough yet?
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
>
> On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com
> <mailto:flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>> wrote:
>
> I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a
> disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never
> came. So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible
> ways. He doesn't care what happens to the unemployment figures
> anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and
> all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not all at
> once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to
> happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger
> and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get
> laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the civil
> sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get
> past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
> Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than
> closing towers IMHO.
> Linn
>
>
> On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
>>
>> They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to
>> get congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous
>> chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in
>> income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and
>> able to run in the black from the funds it collects.
>> This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA
>> is closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their
>> homes, and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work.
>> They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
>> My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are
>> getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay
>> cut as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his
>> family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can
>> play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside
>> to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
>> Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an
>> acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and
>> lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower
>> here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that
>> arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to
>> play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in
>> the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your
>> congressman know you are angry or they will do nothing and real
>> people will suffer.
>>
>> Stephen Blank, DDS
>> Port Saint Lucie, FL
>>
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>> 03/23/13
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
Ok, enough politics.... but the sequestration was the presidents idea.
--- On Sun, 3/24/13, Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The pre
sident is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only congre
ss can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that you thi
nk the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the unemploye
d. That is just complaining without results.
=0A=0A--- Call your congressman and let then know you want results or
their pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not h
ave to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman th
at work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things c
ould be passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the ex
tremes of either party.
=0A=0A-- Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state
name- (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbe
rs. They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them.
If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue t
he country is pissed off with inaction.
=0A=0A-- FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world
wide? Is our military big enough yet?=0AStephen Blank, DDS=0AOn Mar 24, 201
3 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
=0A=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A I think the problem lies with tghe=0A
President .... who predicted a disaster if sequestration happened=0A .
.... and the disaster never came.- So he directs the agencies to=0A
cut in the most visible ways.- He doesn't care what happens to the=0A
unemployment figures anymore.- He'd rather play golf.- I, for one,=0A
feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be=0A
cut.- Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition.- That=0A
doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room=0A
keeps getting bigger and bigger.- I feel the pain for the people=0A
in the towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that=0A lost
jobs in the civil sector.- It ain't pretty out there so fly=0A safe
ly and we'll get past this.- Pilots are a pretty flexible=0A bunch.
=0A Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than=0A
closing towers IMHO.
=0A Linn
=0A
=0A
=0A On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
=0A =0A =0A They need to get a work slow down or close the=0A
airports in DC to get congress off its collective rear ends and=0A
end the ridiculous chopping of useful government services that=0A
we are paying for in income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should=0A
be fully funded and able to run in the black from the funds it=0A
collects.
=0A --- This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport
KSUA=0A is closing too.- Real people are being laid off, will los
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work.=0A They won't find a job In another tower. Stupid.
=0A ---- My friend works for the army corps of engineers and
they=0A are getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% fo
rced=0A pay cut as if the budget issue is their fault?- It will ki
ll his=0A family budget, obligstions he made while working, so congr
ess=0A can play games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no
=0A downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
=0A ---- Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an
=0A acceptable way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt,=0A
and lives will be lost over LA. We can probably live without a=0A
tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to the weekend jet set=0A
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people will suffer.=0A Stephen Blank, DDS
=0A Port Saint Lucie, FL=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A No virus=0A
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=0A Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
=0A 03/23/13=0A =0A
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| Subject: | Airport Tower Closures |
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is
our military big enough yet?
It may be large enough, and it can be more efficient. But that is not the
sequestration question. The question is who is responsible for the mess we
are in today. I don't think you should waste your time calling your
congress person...call you senators, they are the ones not taking action.
The house has passed many bills..the senate just will not take them up.
But to get back to flying...flew from Idaho Falls Id to Ogden Utah
yesterday. The guys up in Idaho Falls were all upset about losing their
tower and worried that it really will affect their business. Here at Ogden
it is a mixed bag about losing the tower..of the people I have talked to it
is about 50/50. I am on the I don't care list.I care about the people
losing their job, but I don't care about not having a tower. Our bigger
problem at Ogden is that we now have commercial service (2 days a week) and
the TSA has come in and I would say with the City's overwhelming cooperation
and made life at the airport a pain, to say the least. The airport is now
divided in half, fly in to the local dinner (the Auger Inn), is almost
impossible and doing things like Young Eagle rally's are almost impossible.
Out local EAA chapter has lost it meeting location to boot.
Well I will stop whining and get back to work so I can get to the airport
later today to work on my annual condition inspect and yearly modes...this
year..replacing BMA Lite with a third GRT screen, handles for the seats, new
headset hangers, putting on door straps, and adding piper battery charging
connector.
Rene'
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Blank,DDS
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The
president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only
congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion that
you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care about the
unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their pay
should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have to be a
dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman that work for
the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many things could be
passed if they stop playing political games and pandering to the extremes of
either party.
Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name
(Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers. They
are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them. If no one
calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue the country
is pissed off with inaction.
FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide? Is
our military big enough yet?
Stephen Blank, DDS
On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a disaster
if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came. So he directs
the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't care what happens
to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play golf. I, for one,
feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and needs to be cut. Not
all at once, mind you, but through attrition. That doesn't ever seem to
happen though and the elephant in the room keeps getting bigger and bigger.
I feel the pain for the people in the towers that get laid off, just as I
feel for those that lost jobs in the civil sector. It ain't pretty out
there so fly safely and we'll get past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible
bunch.
Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing towers
IMHO.
Linn
On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get
congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous chopping of
useful government services that we are paying for in income taxes and fuel
taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able to run in the black from the
funds it collects.
This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is closing
too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes, and add to
those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't find a job In
another tower. Stupid.
My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are getting
cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut as if the budget
issue is their fault? It will kill his family budget, obligstions he made
while working, so congress can play games. This is by politicsl choice.
Congress has no downside to continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable way to
fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be lost over LA.
We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly an inconvenience to
the weekend jet set that arrive in some top dollar jets, IFR hand off from
Palm Beach to play golf. But they continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy
in the tower loses his job? Pick up your phone and let your congressman know
you are angry or they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
Stephen Blank, DDS
Port Saint Lucie, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
WHAT SEQUESTER? FEDERAL JOBS WEBSITE LISTS THOUSANDS OF OPENINGS! I am relocating
to Dayton to take the job as director for the Air Force History and Museums
Policies and Programs. All that I need to do is issue memos promoting gay marriage,
muslim rights, legalization of pot, and watch porn on my computer all
day!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/23/USA-Jobs-postings-thousands
For all the talk about the dramatic spending cuts to hit the federal government
under the bipartisan sequestration, the federal government isnt exactly tightening
its belt. According to USAJobs.gov, the job posting site for the feds, approximately
2,200 jobs listings became available during one week in March. As
Eileen Ambrose reports, Add in new postings open only to current or former federal
workers, including those laid off, and the number of new openings jumps
to more than 4,600.
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See you OSH '13
Q/B - flying 3 yrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
It doesn't matter WHOSE idea it was. Might as well have been Donald Ducks,
or Farmer McDonald. Both houses of Congress passed it, the President
signed, and both Houses of Congress failed to carryout the mandates in the
bill, which left us stuck with the stupidquester.
Doesn't matter what party, who did what, it took the whole "team" to fail.
It took the "team" unwillingness to pay the bills for the spending "they"
approved.
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Ok, enough politics.... but the sequestration was the presidents idea.
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| Subject: | Re: Airport Tower Closures |
You said the magic word there Rene'....TSA. If we really want
to save some money, and we're willing to reduce safety by
a little bit, I'd rather see towers stay open, but chop the
TSA down to a small fraction of what it is. That's one of the
biggest waste of cash I've seen.
Regarding flying, I've been finding out this week that if you
can build an RV....any RV....you can install your own bifold
hangar door. I got a new-to-me hangar last fall, that is
front/back connected with my existing T hangar. It had a
dangerous and rotten door on it though. I ended up buying a
brand new Schweiss strap-lift style bifold. I got it
delivered around noon on Thursday, and had it hung by 3pm
by 2 bolts. I did have a friend stop out and help, but I
could have done it alone, since I rented a forklift.
The next day I had it all bolted in and operating, with the
only help being the wife, to hold the bolts from turning so I
could torque them. Then yesterday I had to go back and get
a couple guys to help put the steel siding on, since the
sheets are 40' long and weigh over 100lbs. but I only needed
help for 3 hours. It's been a fun but tiring adventure,
and it saved me over $2500 for installation cost.
I just love a D-I-Y project.
Back to government, and D-I-Y.....don't you think that if
we RV guys just ran that city, we could do 100% better. :)
I wonder if there is a book "Running the worlds largest
economical and military powerhouse for dummies".
It's sufficient to say that it don't matter what party is in
place, that whole situation is <blanked> up. Doesn't matter
who wins the next election, either....it's still gonna be
<blanked> up. Frustrating. I'm just glad that I've got
a fun RV-10 to fly, and plenty of places to fly it to.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 3/24/2013 9:46 AM, Rene wrote:
> FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide?
> Is our military big enough yet?
>
> It may be large enough, and it can be more efficient. But that is not
> the sequestration question. The question is who is responsible for the
> mess we are in today. I dont think you should waste your time calling
> your congress person..call you senators, they are the ones not taking
> action. The house has passed many bills.the senate just will not take
> them up.
>
> But to get back to flying..flew from Idaho Falls Id to Ogden Utah
> yesterday. The guys up in Idaho Falls were all upset about losing their
> tower and worried that it really will affect their business. Here at
> Ogden it is a mixed bag about losing the tower.of the people I have
> talked to it is about 50/50. I am on the I dont care listI care about
> the people losing their job, but I dont care about not having a tower.
> Our bigger problem at Ogden is that we now have commercial service (2
> days a week) and the TSA has come in and I would say with the Citys
> overwhelming cooperation and made life at the airport a pain, to say the
> least. The airport is now divided in half, fly in to the local dinner
> (the Auger Inn), is almost impossible and doing things like Young Eagle
> rallys are almost impossible. Out local EAA chapter has lost it
> meeting location to boot.
>
> Well I will stop whining and get back to work so I can get to the
> airport later today to work on my annual condition inspect and yearly
> modes..this yearreplacing BMA Lite with a third GRT screen, handles
> for the seats, new headset hangers, putting on door straps, and adding
> piper battery charging connector.
>
> Rene
>
> N423CF
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen
> Blank,DDS
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:08 AM
> *To:* RV10 List
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
>
> The president in America does not write legislation, congress does. The
> president is obligated to follow the budgetary rules they created. Only
> congress can fix this. It helps no one for you to blast your opinion
> that you think the president would rather play golf and doesnt care
> about the unemployed. That is just complaining without results.
> Call your congressman and let then know you want results or their
> pay should be cut, not working government employees. This does not have
> to be a dem vs rep fight. We all want effective laws and congressman
> that work for the common good. There is a ton of common ground, many
> things could be passed if they stop playing political games and
> pandering to the extremes of either party.
> Call your congressman, that is how it works. Google your state name
> (Florida us congressman, for example) and look up some phone numbers.
> They are always nice when I call, and I am seldomly agreeing with them.
> If no one calls they think they are doing a great job. They have no clue
> the country is pissed off with inaction.
> FYI did you know the DOD is the largest consumer of oil world wide?
> Is our military big enough yet?
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
>
> On Mar 24, 2013 8:43 AM, "Linn" <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com
> <mailto:flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>> wrote:
>
> I think the problem lies with tghe President .... who predicted a
> disaster if sequestration happened ..... and the disaster never came.
> So he directs the agencies to cut in the most visible ways. He doesn't
> care what happens to the unemployment figures anymore. He'd rather play
> golf. I, for one, feel the Gov't (and all the agencies) is bloated and
> needs to be cut. Not all at once, mind you, but through attrition.
> That doesn't ever seem to happen though and the elephant in the room
> keeps getting bigger and bigger. I feel the pain for the people in the
> towers that get laid off, just as I feel for those that lost jobs in the
> civil sector. It ain't pretty out there so fly safely and we'll get
> past this. Pilots are a pretty flexible bunch.
> Laying off IFR controllers would be far more devastating than closing
> towers IMHO.
> Linn
>
>
> On 3/24/2013 8:13 AM, Stephen Blank,DDS wrote:
>
> They need to get a work slow down or close the airports in DC to get
> congress off its collective rear ends and end the ridiculous
> chopping of useful government services that we are paying for in
> income taxes and fuel taxes. The FAA should be fully funded and able
> to run in the black from the funds it collects.
> This entire closure thing is congress made. My airport KSUA is
> closing too. Real people are being laid off, will lose their homes,
> and add to those getting paid unemployment to not work. They won't
> find a job In another tower. Stupid.
> My friend works for the army corps of engineers and they are
> getting cut one day a week startinh April 1st, a 20% forced pay cut
> as if the budget issue is their fault? It will kill his family
> budget, obligstions he made while working, so congress can play
> games. This is by politicsl choice. Congress has no downside to
> continue on this path unless we ALL act now.
> Pick up your phone and tell congress this is NOT an acceptable
> way to fix the budget, real people are being hurt, and lives will be
> lost over LA. We can probably live without a tower here, with mostly
> an inconvenience to the weekend jet set that arrive in some top
> dollar jets, IFR hand off from Palm Beach to play golf. But they
> continue to get a tax cut?? And the guy in the tower loses his job?
> Pick up your phone and let your congressman know you are angry or
> they will do nothing and real people will suffer.
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
> Port Saint Lucie, FL
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To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decision making.
The budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is the house
refusing to get creative and pass anything the senate or president would
sign. It is fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the senate
and presidency. It is not the president or Senate that have to change to
appease the house. The house chooses to obstruct for political gains and
they don't want to do anything that would make the current president look
good. We need to ask them to work for the good of the nation and to get
past their own political agendas. Not demo or rep, but good decisions for
everyone.
I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be cut or
trimmed. Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnight into
a huge economic drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is second in
size only to the department of defense, and the need for a separate
department escapes me.
Stephen Blank, DDS
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Hey mister DDS.... what about the first FUC----- two years of this assholes
term when they had control of both the Senate and the House... still no da
mn budget.- Why do you think Bush's last 2 years were so bad!- They con
trolled both houses then tooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What could you possibly add to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty hard to blame that on the Republicans.
Gee come to think of it, California, which I left 3 years ago, after 59 yea
rs, now has a Democratic super majority.- According to you they should be
doing just splendid!-- NOT!
DDR, SAS, PBW , just kidding about the initials,,,, I'm just a plain ole ci
tizen...don't see the need to flash credentials around.
Don McDonald
--- On Sun, 3/24/13, Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
--- To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decision ma
king. The budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is the ho
use refusing to get creative and pass anything the senate or president woul
d sign. It is- fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the senat
e and presidency. It is not the president or Senate that have to change to
appease the house. The house chooses to obstruct for political gains and th
ey don't want to do anything that would make the current president look goo
d. We need to ask them to work for the good of the nation and to get past t
heir own political agendas. Not demo or rep, but good decisions for everyon
e.
=0A=0A---I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be
cut or trimmed. Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnig
ht into a huge economic drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is sec
ond in size only to the department of defense, and the need for a separate
==========0A=0A
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Hey Don,
There is no constitutional requirement for a budget, period. If you
did a quick word search in the constitution, you won't find the word
budget. Who gives a damn? It is appropriations bills that matter,
which the House refuses to pass any that are even close to acceptable.
How about just finding a way to do something instead of being
roadblocks?
Now. Back to building RVs and to hell with politicians of all stripes.
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Don McDonald
<building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hey mister DDS.... what about the first FUC----- two years of this assholes term
when they had control of both the Senate and the House... still no damn budget.
Why do you think Bush's last 2 years were so bad! They controlled both
houses then tooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> What could you possibly add to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Pretty hard to blame that on the Republicans.
>
> Gee come to think of it, California, which I left 3 years ago, after 59 years,
now has a Democratic super majority. According to you they should be doing
just splendid! NOT!
>
> DDR, SAS, PBW , just kidding about the initials,,,, I'm just a plain ole citizen...don't
see the need to flash credentials around.
>
> Don McDonald
>
>
> --- On Sun, 3/24/13, Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
> To: "RV10 List" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:37 PM
>
> To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decision making. The
budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is the house refusing
to get creative and pass anything the senate or president would sign. It is
fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the senate and presidency. It
is not the president or Senate that have to change to appease the house. The
house chooses to obstruct for political gains and they don't want to do anything
that would make the current president look good. We need to ask them to work
for the good of the nation and to get past their own political agendas. Not
demo or rep, but good decisions for everyone.
> I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be cut or trimmed.
Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnight into a huge economic
drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is second in size only to
the department of defense, and the need for a separate department escapes me.
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?ank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contri==
>
>
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My last two cents... I- find it funny that the Dems say that the Rep's ar
e restricting a certain process... then when it's pointed out that when Dem
s had complete control, and still didn't get anything done, then the statem
ent changes to It's not required.- I think they call that bait and switch
.
Kelly, we can still be friends.... but my planes been done for 3 years....
get back to building before 100LL gets to $10 gal.
--- On Sun, 3/24/13, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
Hey Don,
There is no constitutional requirement for a budget, period. If you
did a quick word search in the constitution, you won't find the word
budget. Who gives a damn? It is appropriations bills that matter,
which the House refuses to pass any that are even close to acceptable.
How about just finding a way to do something instead of being
roadblocks?
Now. Back to building RVs and to hell with politicians of all stripes.
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Don McDonald
<building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hey mister DDS.... what about the first FUC----- two years of this asshol
es term when they had control of both the Senate and the House... still no
damn budget.- Why do you think Bush's last 2 years were so bad!- They c
ontrolled both houses then tooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> What could you possibly add to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Pretty hard to blame that on the Republicans.
>
> Gee come to think of it, California, which I left 3 years ago, after 59 y
ears, now has a Democratic super majority.- According to you they should
be doing just splendid!---NOT!
>
> DDR, SAS, PBW , just kidding about the initials,,,, I'm just a plain ole
citizen...don't see the need to flash credentials around.
>
> Don McDonald
>
>
> --- On Sun, 3/24/13, Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Stephen Blank,DDS <sblankdds@gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
> To: "RV10 List" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 12:37 PM
>
>- ---To keep us flying we need to understand just a bit on decisio
n making. The budget starts in the House, not the senate. The problem is th
e house refusing to get creative and pass anything the senate or president
would sign. It is- fact, like it or not, that the democrats control the s
enate and presidency. It is not the president or Senate that have to change
to appease the house. The house chooses to obstruct for political gains an
d they don't want to do anything that would make the current president look
good. We need to ask them to work for the good of the nation and to get pa
st their own political agendas. Not demo or rep, but good decisions for eve
ryone.
>- - I agree the the TSA is a government entity that needs to be cut or
trimmed. Ask your congressman to do just that, it was formed overnight int
o a huge economic drain and intrudes on our freedom to fly. It is second in
size only to the department of defense, and the need for a separate depart
ment escapes me.
>
> Stephen Blank, DDS
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?ank" href="http://forums.matronics.c
om">http://forums.matronics.com rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="
http://www.matronics.com/contri==
>
>
le, List Admin.
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At no time did either party have full control. It would take more than
60 votes in Senate to be even close, since a single obstinate Senator
can hold up most anything. We also do not have a system where leaders
can tell a Congressman how to vote. Sure they can be strong armed,
lobbied, attacked in next election, but none of the leaders, majority
nor minority can consistently deliver 100% of their caucus. Look at all
the trouble Boehner has had, making deals that his caucus refuses to
support, forcing him to back out of deals. Trying to control Congress is
like trying to herd a cat.
I know of slow build RV-10 built in 12 months, by solo builder without
assist. Not what I would want, but suits the owner. We all make our own
choices and have our own limitations on how fast we can build, and it
has nothing to do with politicians.
On 3/24/2013 8:24 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
> My last two cents... I find it funny that the Dems say that the Rep's
> are restricting a certain process... then when it's pointed out that
> when Dems had complete control, and still didn't get anything done,
> then the statement changes to It's not required. I think they call
> that bait and switch.
> Kelly, we can still be friends.... but my planes been done for 3
> years.... get back to building before 100LL gets to $10 gal.
>
> --- On *Sun, 3/24/13, Kelly McMullen /<apilot2@gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airport Tower Closures
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013, 9:59 PM
>
> </mc/compose?to=apilot2@gmail.com>>
>
> Hey Don,
> There is no constitutional requirement for a budget, period. If you
> did a quick word search in the constitution, you won't find the word
> budget. Who gives a damn? It is appropriations bills that matter,
> which the House refuses to pass any that are even close to acceptable.
> How about just finding a way to do something instead of being
> roadblocks?
> Now. Back to building RVs and to hell with politicians of all stripes.
>
>
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