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1. 03:05 AM - Re: rear seat foam (Werner Schneider)
2. 03:35 AM - Re: EFIS failure checklist (Rodger Todd)
3. 12:36 PM - Oil level (Michael Kraus)
4. 01:22 PM - Re: Oil level (Robin Marks)
5. 01:48 PM - Re: Oil level (Dave Saylor)
6. 01:58 PM - Re: Oil level (Pascal)
7. 02:49 PM - Re: Oil level (Rene Felker)
8. 03:26 PM - Re: Oil level (Bill Watson)
9. 10:38 PM - Re: Oil level (Gordon Anderson)
10. 10:59 PM - Re: Oil level (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | Re: rear seat foam |
Pascal,
they came out very nice, you could marketing them and sell to get your
R&D back ;)
On 01.04.2013 22:16, Pascal wrote:
> its all the same foam. Youre paying for the Name only. I know Oregon
> Aero told me that needed to get their money back for their R&D on the
> front seats and rear seats. I built my own rear seats and think I should
> get $50 for my R&D.
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS failure checklist |
Hi Robin,
-
The standby EFIS you are referring to is the Mid-Continent-MD 302, $9475
at Spruce.- The unit Dave is quoting is the L3 Trilogy which is approx $1
3k if I remember correctly.- A third alternative would be the Aspen stand
by unit announced at the end of last year.
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Best wishes,
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Rodger
--- On Tue, 2/4/13, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: EFIS failure checklist
I don't think so.
http://utubeclassic.com/watch.php?v=j4IE9DMpj0U
I am having a difficult time sourcing the company page or the original vide
o. Above is a 3rd party video.
Sent from the new iPad
On Mar 31, 2013, at 12:27 PM, "Dave Saylor" <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.
com> wrote:
Is that the L3 unit? -I remember seeing the price and thinking oh brother
. -I'd rather install a vacuum system, and buy the 3 indicators that are
gonna to fail over a couple thousand hours.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com> wrote:
This discussion has been beneficial and reconfirms my feeling that in an em
ergency when everything appears as if you are looking through a straw and y
our head fills with conflicting decision paths that the safest bet is on a
100% independent back up system on its own battery (if needed).
I was thrilled to see a new back up EFIS advertised in one of the aviation
magazines I receive. Its a sweet little unit that appears to be well design
ed. After reading of its capabilities and watching the company video I was
impressed with the SAM back up EFIS. I had to dig a little deeper to find t
he unit pricing. $10,800.00. Bahhhahahha
Those poor bastards in the certified world will probably have $15K once ins
talled by a certified mechanic. The SAM is a unit that is comparable to the
TT Gemini EFIS I have in my 8A for $1,300.
I have been very pleased and impressed with my TT Gemini EFIS and I feel co
mfortable using that as my sole navigation device in an emergency. For $15K
I can install 3 TT Gemini back up units each with its own back up battery,
buy two Dynon D1 pocket EFIS, buy 3 iPads and an iPad mini plus a years wo
rth of AV gas.
My point is there are some quality backup devices that will provide full 6
pack info in a small footprint that are eminently affordable. Retrofitting
for a TT Gemini or the like is a pretty simple task and gives great peace o
f mind should primary instruments start going dark on you.
Robin
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How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything over 10
quarts for me typically blows out.
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
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Michael,
I usually put a bit in the oil filter then 7 quarts in the case. I then add another
quart 20+ hours in. On my old cowl the breather tube was undersized at 3/4"
which I now realize was a problem. With 7 Quarts I didn't have any blow by
on the belly but if I put 8 quarts in it coated the belly. When we replaced the
cowl we also replaced the 3/4" breather with a 1" breather tube. At the same
time they did an oil change and put in 11 Quarts. Holly S*** 11 Quarts. I know
I would be degreasing for the next 10 flight hours. That didn't happen. My belly
is bone dry after 2 - 3+ hour flights and another 10 - 1 hour flights. Big
surprise to me. I will still probably stay with 8 quarts for me on a go forward
basis. YMMV.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Oil level
--> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything over 10
quarts for me typically blows out.
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
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I like it at 9, top it off when it gets to 8. I put a couple extra marks
on the dipstick at 7 and 8.
On Tuesday, April 2, 2013, Michael Kraus wrote:
> >
>
> How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything
> over 10 quarts for me typically blows out.
>
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-4 sold :-(
> RV-10 flying :-)
> KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
>
>
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Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
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I discovered that anything above 7qts would "disappear". I have a can that
holds the blowby so I can see how much oil is blown and it sure isn't much.
I have been running mine at 6.5-6.0qt before adding another qt.
The advice my engine builder gave me was let the oil go until it stops. Some
io-540 can run at 6, some at 8 or 9qts. In other words the oil stopped going
down at around 6qts. I can go about 5 hours or so before I see any drop, but
if I take it to 8qts the oil goes down within 2-3 hours to 7qts, than slowly
to 6 where it seems to hold without loss..
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oil level
Michael,
I usually put a bit in the oil filter then 7 quarts in the case. I then add
another quart 20+ hours in. On my old cowl the breather tube was undersized
at 3/4" which I now realize was a problem. With 7 Quarts I didn't have any
blow by on the belly but if I put 8 quarts in it coated the belly. When we
replaced the cowl we also replaced the 3/4" breather with a 1" breather
tube. At the same time they did an oil change and put in 11 Quarts. Holly
S*** 11 Quarts. I know I would be degreasing for the next 10 flight hours.
That didn't happen. My belly is bone dry after 2 - 3+ hour flights and
another 10 - 1 hour flights. Big surprise to me. I will still probably stay
with 8 quarts for me on a go forward basis. YMMV.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Oil level
--> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything
over 10 quarts for me typically blows out.
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
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I have been starting at 9 and letting it go to 8 where is stabilizes.
Anything above 9 and in a couple of hours it will be at 9.... YMMV
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oil level
I discovered that anything above 7qts would "disappear". I have a can that
holds the blowby so I can see how much oil is blown and it sure isn't much.
I have been running mine at 6.5-6.0qt before adding another qt.
The advice my engine builder gave me was let the oil go until it stops. Some
io-540 can run at 6, some at 8 or 9qts. In other words the oil stopped going
down at around 6qts. I can go about 5 hours or so before I see any drop, but
if I take it to 8qts the oil goes down within 2-3 hours to 7qts, than slowly
to 6 where it seems to hold without loss..
-----Original Message-----
From: Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oil level
Michael,
I usually put a bit in the oil filter then 7 quarts in the case. I then add
another quart 20+ hours in. On my old cowl the breather tube was undersized
at 3/4" which I now realize was a problem. With 7 Quarts I didn't have any
blow by on the belly but if I put 8 quarts in it coated the belly. When we
replaced the cowl we also replaced the 3/4" breather with a 1" breather
tube. At the same time they did an oil change and put in 11 Quarts. Holly
S*** 11 Quarts. I know I would be degreasing for the next 10 flight hours.
That didn't happen. My belly is bone dry after 2 - 3+ hour flights and
another 10 - 1 hour flights. Big surprise to me. I will still probably stay
with 8 quarts for me on a go forward basis. YMMV.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Oil level
--> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything
over 10 quarts for me typically blows out.
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 sold :-(
RV-10 flying :-)
KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
-----
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For the first 200+ hours, I was putting in 10 quarts
At 260 hours, I put in 7 which registers at 6.
Why? I've been attempting to get my oil temperature up to at least 150F.
Bill "changing it again as we speak" Watson
On 4/2/2013 3:35 PM, Michael Kraus wrote:
>
> How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything over
10 quarts for me typically blows out.
>
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-4 sold :-(
> RV-10 flying :-)
> KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
>
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Robin,
Do you have an oil separator in the breather line, with the new 1" line or previously
with the 3/4"?
Gordon
On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Michael,
> I usually put a bit in the oil filter then 7 quarts in the case. I then add another
quart 20+ hours in. On my old cowl the breather tube was undersized at
3/4" which I now realize was a problem. With 7 Quarts I didn't have any blow by
on the belly but if I put 8 quarts in it coated the belly. When we replaced
the cowl we also replaced the 3/4" breather with a 1" breather tube. At the same
time they did an oil change and put in 11 Quarts. Holly S*** 11 Quarts. I know
I would be degreasing for the next 10 flight hours. That didn't happen. My
belly is bone dry after 2 - 3+ hour flights and another 10 - 1 hour flights.
Big surprise to me. I will still probably stay with 8 quarts for me on a go forward
basis. YMMV.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:35 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Oil level
>
> --> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
>
> How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything over
10 quarts for me typically blows out.
>
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-4 sold :-(
> RV-10 flying :-)
> KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
>
>
>
>
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I had the Andair Air/Oil with the 3/4" line in the prior cowl set up. That is probably
why we used 3/4". The new set up has no Air/Oil unit.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oil level
Robin,
Do you have an oil separator in the breather line, with the new 1" line or previously
with the 3/4"?
Gordon
On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Michael,
> I usually put a bit in the oil filter then 7 quarts in the case. I then add another
quart 20+ hours in. On my old cowl the breather tube was undersized at
3/4" which I now realize was a problem. With 7 Quarts I didn't have any blow by
on the belly but if I put 8 quarts in it coated the belly. When we replaced
the cowl we also replaced the 3/4" breather with a 1" breather tube. At the same
time they did an oil change and put in 11 Quarts. Holly S*** 11 Quarts. I know
I would be degreasing for the next 10 flight hours. That didn't happen. My
belly is bone dry after 2 - 3+ hour flights and another 10 - 1 hour flights.
Big surprise to me. I will still probably stay with 8 quarts for me on a go forward
basis. YMMV.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Kraus
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 12:35 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Oil level
>
> --> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
>
> How many quarts of oil do you all typically run in your RV-10? Anything over
10 quarts for me typically blows out.
>
> -Mike Kraus
> RV-4 sold :-(
> RV-10 flying :-)
> KitFox SS7 Radial building :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
>
>
>
>
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