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Mon 04/08/13


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 02:37 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Bob Leffler)
     2. 04:23 AM - Re: A Plane is born ()
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Bill Gipson)
     4. 05:51 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Seano)
     5. 06:08 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Dave Saylor)
     6. 06:22 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Patrick Pulis)
     7. 06:38 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Tim Olson)
     8. 07:11 AM - Re: A Plane is born (bill.peyton)
     9. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: A Plane is born (LES KEARNEY)
    10. 08:18 AM - Re: Finishing door frame and bodywork (Bill Watson)
    11. 08:35 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Phil White)
    12. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: A Plane is born (Don McDonald)
    13. 10:01 AM - Re: A Plane is born (Bill Watson)
    14. 10:40 AM - Interesting weather flight to Lycoming Engine School in my RV10 (Bill Watson)
    15. 11:16 AM - Re: Interesting weather flight to Lycoming Engine School in my RV10 (Bill Watson)
    16. 06:28 PM - Re: A Plane is born (dmaib@me.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:37:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Congratulations Les! Sent from my iPad On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:28 AM, "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi > > After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose Airport in Alberta, Canada. > > I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson for h is website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his fiberglass se minar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for help. Learning how to b uild a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer than the actual building pro cess. Having access to the collective wisdom of this group was quite literal ly pricesless. In every sense you were my build partners. > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!! > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 04:23:01 AM PST US
    From: <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    That=99s a small rotation for a man ... giant birth ... etc.! Awesome, Les! Post pics/ video when you can. At least more details. Later, =93 Lew


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    Time: 05:44:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    From: Bill Gipson <gipsowh@hotmail.com>
    Way to go Les. Hope everything went well with first flight and few minor sq uawks. Let us know how she flew. Bill Sent from my iPhone Bill Gipson On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:33 AM, "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi > > After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose Airport in Alberta, Canada. > > I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson for h is website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his fiberglass se minar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for help. Learning how to b uild a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer than the actual building pro cess. Having access to the collective wisdom of this group was quite literal ly pricesless. In every sense you were my build partners. > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!! > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 05:51:42 AM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    Congratulations Les! Can't wait to see it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Kearney To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 11:28 PM Subject: RV10-List: A Plane is born Hi After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose Airport in Alberta, Canada. I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson for his website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his fiberglass seminar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for help. Learning how to build a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer than the actual building process. Having access to the collective wisdom of this group was quite literally pricesless. In every sense you were my build partners. Cheers Les Kearney #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!!


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    Time: 06:08:01 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    Congratulations Les! Keep up the good work and fly safe! Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi**** > > ** ** > > After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose Airport > in Alberta, Canada.**** > > ** ** > > I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson for > his website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his fiberglass > seminar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for help. Learning how > to build a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer than the actual > building process. Having access to the collective wisdom of this group was > quite literally pricesless. In every sense you were my build partners.*** > * > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > ** ** > > Les Kearney**** > > #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!! **** > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 06:22:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Congratulations mate, I wish you safe skies and tailwinds. Your assistance with the composite cabin door frame and seal advice has insp ired me Les, thank you. Warm regards from down under. Patrick On 08/04/2013, at 2:58 PM, "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi > > After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose Airport in Alberta, Canada. > > I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson for h is website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his fiberglass se minar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for help. Learning how to b uild a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer than the actual building pro cess. Having access to the collective wisdom of this group was quite literal ly pricesless. In every sense you were my build partners. > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!! > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 06:38:39 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    Hey congrats Les, tell us about the flight! Tim On 4/8/2013 12:28 AM, Les Kearney wrote: > Hi > > After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose > Airport in Alberta, Canada. > > I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson > for his website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his > fiberglass seminar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for help. > Learning how to build a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer than > the actual building process. Having access to the collective wisdom of > this group was quite literally pricesless. In every sense you were my > build partners. > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > > #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!! > > *


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    Time: 07:11:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b@sbcglobal.net>
    Congratulations Les! Pictures? -------- Bill WA0SYV Aviation Partners, LLC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398140#398140


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    Time: 07:52:05 AM PST US
    From: LES KEARNEY <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    Hi Here is the pix with the obligatory RV grin. I have a vido but it is very large. I also need to get my daughter to clean it up a bit before I post it. The chap in the right seat is local flight instructor. In Canada it is legal to have an instructor aboard during the fly off period. He took care of comms and help monitor the engine parameters for the flight. My engine is a 3.6L Subaru Tribeca with a 4 blade Quinti / Sensenich prop so there was a lot to keep an eye on during the first flight. I was wowed by how smooth and quite the engine was on takeoff! Exterior pix are not all that interesting as I haven't done paint yet. It is very much a "coat of many colours" as my focus has been on getting airworthy and not pretty. I will post a couple later. I am following the test flight syllabus laid out in Jerry Milek's "Test Flight Checklist" which can be found at www.javifix.com. It is well worth the cost. First flight lasted, by design, for about 11 minutes. The plan was to to check controls *gently* and then return to ground to check for leaks etc in the engine compartment. Based on the syllabus, each flight builds on the previous in a highly structured way. The intent is to carefully and methodically test the aircraft with a minimum of risk. Cheers Les RV10 C-GCWZ


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    Time: 08:18:55 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Finishing door frame and bodywork
    I've been using a so-called higher quality polyester filler, Metal Glaze, to do the final-final smoothing on some areas. Otherwise I've stuck to epoxy with micro or premixed epoxy filler. Will keep monitoring the results. Thanks. On 4/6/2013 6:09 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > I use polyester filler (Bondo from the auto parts store) here and > there, especially when I need to hurry things along. But only in > small areas, because it's relatively heavy, and then I always overlay > it with glass. While I don't have any long-term test results, my > sense is that bondo tends to shrink over time and cause the paint to > crack. I'm not too concerned if that happens underneath a layer of > glass, in non-structural areas. For example, I sometimes use > micro/epoxy as a replacement for foam or honeycomb core, but I > wouldn't use bondo there for fear it might eventually delaminate from > the outer skins. > > Dave Saylor > 831-750-0284 CL > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com > <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote: > > Question for Dave and others; one thing I started to do, > especially on the glass pieces, is to use polyester filler for the > final smoothing. It's much easier to use and much more productive > because it hardens so fast. So far so good after a 1.5 years of > flying. > > Recommended? Do others do this? How has it held up? > > Bill > > On 4/5/2013 11:05 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: >> Hi Gordon, >> >> You're on the right track. A couple of suggestions-- >> >> You'll save a ton of work if you use a pre-mixed filler like >> SuperFil or similar instead of making your own. Not just in >> mixing but mostly in sanding off the excess. Premixed is a lot >> easier to deal with for a number of reasons. SuperFil takes a >> long time to cure but it gives you a break ;-) >> >> If you add more than about 3/32" of filler, then overlay it with >> a layer of glass cloth. If you glass over the bond line between >> the window and the cabin top you'll prevent the common cracks >> that tend to show up there. >> >> For the low spot between the window and the door you might >> consider using something tougher than filler. That area sees a >> lot of traffic. I'd suggest a fairly stiff mixture of flox (also >> called flocked cotton). The flox leaves a hard and rough surface >> so leave room to overlay that with filler too. Be sure to wet >> the base with plain epoxy before the flox goes on. >> >> I would forgo the aluminum etching. A light scuff with something >> like Scotchbrite pads and degreasing should be more than >> adequate. I'd be a little concerned about getting all the >> etching material off--but I'm not familiar with the process so >> maybe that's just me. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Dave Saylor >> 831-750-0284 <tel:831-750-0284> CL >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >> 04/06/13 >> > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >


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    Time: 08:35:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    From: "Phil White" <philwhite9@aol.com>
    Les: Congratulations! As a fellow auto-engine builder, I know how much extra time is involved in getting to flight. A major achievement on your part! My Mazda 20B rotary is still in the 'build all the external support pieces to the engine' phase. Hope this warm season will allow getting to a running engine point. Phil in IL ps: Photo did not post. Try again. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398151#398151


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    Time: 09:21:43 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    Welcome to the other side.... As you will soon discover, the RV10 has to be one of the greatest planes around.... in all aspects.- Congrats. Don McDonald 500+ --- On Mon, 4/8/13, LES KEARNEY <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote: From: LES KEARNEY <kearney@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: A Plane is born Hi Here is the pix with the obligatory RV grin. I have a vido but it is very l arge. I also need to get my daughter to clean it up a bit before I post it. The chap in the right seat is local flight instructor. In Canada it is lega l to have an instructor aboard during the fly off period. He took care of c omms and help monitor the engine parameters for the flight. My engine is a 3.6L Subaru Tribeca with a 4 blade Quinti / Sensenich prop so there was a l ot to keep an eye on during the first flight. I was wowed by how smooth and quite the engine was on takeoff! Exterior pix are not all that interesting as I haven't done paint yet. It i s very much a "coat of many colours" as my focus has been on getting airwor thy and not pretty. I will post a couple later. I am following the test flight syllabus laid out in Jerry Milek's "Test Fli ght Checklist" which can be found at www.javifix.com. It is well worth the cost. First flight lasted, by design, for about 11 minutes. The plan was to to check controls *gently* and then return to ground to check for leaks et c in the engine compartment. Based on the syllabus, each flight builds on t he previous in a highly structured way. The intent is to carefully and meth odically test the aircraft with a minimum of risk. Cheers Les RV10 C-GCWZ


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    Time: 10:01:56 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    A big congratulations!! On 4/8/2013 1:28 AM, Les Kearney wrote: > > Hi > > After 6 years and 178 days, RV10 C-GCWZ took to the air at Camrose > Airport in Alberta, Canada. > > I would like to thank all the usual suspects but especially Tim Olson > for his website, Matt Dralle for this list and Dave Saylor for his > fiberglass seminar. Thanks to all those who answered my cries for > help. Learning how to build a plane is harder and perhaps takes longer > than the actual building process. Having access to the collective > wisdom of this group was quite literally pricesless. In every sense > you were my build partners. > > Cheers > > Les Kearney > > #40-643 Now Flying!!!!!!! > > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >


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    Time: 10:40:54 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Interesting weather flight to Lycoming Engine School in my
    RV10


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    Time: 11:16:34 AM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Interesting weather flight to Lycoming Engine School in
    my RV10 On 4/8/2013 1:40 PM, Bill Watson wrote: Nevermind. Can't seem to cut and paste posting into this forum. Giving up.


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    Time: 06:28:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Plane is born
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    Congratulations Les! For some reason, I cannot access the photo, but I can imagine what that grin looks like! Have fun working through your test program. I hope to get a ride in your airplane someday. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398205#398205




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