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1. 04:04 AM - Fresh Air Vents (Carlos Trigo)
2. 04:24 AM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (Bob Leffler)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (dmaib@me.com)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
5. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents (Carl Froehlich)
6. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents (Carlos Trigo)
7. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents (David Maib)
8. 09:13 AM - Re: Tapered Top Cowl Pins (Carl Froehlich)
9. 11:15 AM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (rv10flyer)
10. 02:50 PM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
11. 03:58 PM - Re: Tapered Top Cowl Pins (Chris)
12. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents (Carlos Trigo)
13. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vents (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
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Guys
The front seats fresh air vents which came in this kit are like this
with the female part where the eye-ball valve will be mounted.
But if I leave it like it is, this female part positon is not paralel with
the instrument panel surface.
Is this the way you installed it?
Or did you cut that part and installed it flush with the panel surface?
Regards
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
Most folks will install an eyeball vent, such as those that Stein sells. Th
en run a short piece of scat between the naca vent to the eyeball vent.
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On May 11, 2013, at 7:03 AM, "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
> Guys
>
> The front seats fresh air vents which came in this kit are like this
>
> <image003.jpg>
>
>
> with the female part where the eye-ball valve will be mounted.
> But if I leave it like it is, this female part positon is not paralel with
the instrument panel surface.
> Is this the way you installed it?
> Or did you cut that part and installed it flush with the panel surface?
>
> Regards
> Carlos
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well that way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I bought the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&browse=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. These are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh air than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain, either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't have
any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
I agree with Dave. I also just used the stock black nylon vents as I
figured I'd rather spend the extra $300 on avgas. They work well. One day
I'll probably breakdown and spring for the nice aluminum ones from Van's.
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:11 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well that
way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I bought
the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&browse
=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. These
are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light
airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh air
than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain,
either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't
have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400327#400327
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
David
Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of
your post.
By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support
it below the panel, did you make a bracket?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: sbado, 11 de Maio de 2013 13:11
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well that
way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I bought
the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&browse
=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. These
are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light
airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh air
than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain,
either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't
have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400327#400327
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
Carlos,
Mine are not supported below the panel and they are rock solid. I believe we used
proseal to mount the vent scoop to the fuselage wall, but it has been so long
now that I cannot say that for sure. Sorry about the photo. I did not attach
it properly, but if you log on to the Matronics site you can see it on my post.
David Maib
On May 11, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote:
David
Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of
your post.
By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support
it below the panel, did you make a bracket?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: sbado, 11 de Maio de 2013 13:11
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well that
way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I bought
the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&browse
=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. These
are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light
airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh air
than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain,
either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't
have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400327#400327
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| Subject: | Tapered Top Cowl Pins |
Some follow up. Thank to Greg's post I completely eliminated the cowl
rattle during idle and taxi. Removing the per plans .090, I replaced them
with SS .120 pins that I tapered to .090 for the first 8" or so. This
allowed the pins to make the radius bend on the cowl sides but fully lock up
the top cowl hinge area.
I found out tapering these stainless steel pins was not simple. After some
trial and error I ended up putting the .120 pins in a drill press. With the
drill press on low speed, I used a die grinder with a rotary metal file
attachment to work the pin down. This was followed by some hand sanding -
the pin still rotating by the drill press. Start with a pin longer than you
need as you will cut off the end of the pin that was in the drill chuck.
Some oil to lubricate the pin on first install and all is well.
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tapered Top Cowl Pins
--> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
Here is a quick easy way to allow the 120 top pins to be used to retain that
nice fit and stop the cowl ballooning. Place a piece of hardwood about 10
inches long in a vice. Using a CUTTING disc on a 4inch grinder make a
straight shallow cut the length of the wood then mark a line across the wood
7inches from one end. Cut the pins to length, hold one end in an electric
drill and have an assistant operate the drill at about 1000rpm, hold the
rotating pin with one hand on the wood groove and with the other hand a 4
inch grinder with a GRINDING disc. GENTLY and EVENLY apply the grinder to
the first 6inches of the pin using the mark on the wood as a guide. Check
the diameter as you go, when about 100 discard the assistant and using the
drill yourself sand the pin smooth. Sand the end of the pin per plans to
give a nice lead in.The pin needs only to be tapered for about 6inches and
that allows it to enter and go around the curve in the hinge nicely and
keeps everything nice and s!
nug. Cheers from Western Australia
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392870#392870
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
I used the large eyeball vents from Stein attached directly to NACA vent using
proseal for both like David. Stock panel. Works great.
--------
Wayne G.
SB 12/01/2009-12/01/2011
TT= 103
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair ven
ts mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
David
Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of
your post.
By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support
it below the panel, did you make a bracket?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: s=C3=A1bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 13:11
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well tha
t
way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I bought
the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&bro
wse
=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. T
hese
are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light
airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh ai
r
than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain,
either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't
have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400327#400327
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| Subject: | Tapered Top Cowl Pins |
I'll second that procedure as I too have done this per Greg's post, it is a
bit of work no doubt.
-Chris Lucas
N919AR
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tapered Top Cowl Pins
--> <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
Some follow up. Thank to Greg's post I completely eliminated the cowl
rattle during idle and taxi. Removing the per plans .090, I replaced them
with SS .120 pins that I tapered to .090 for the first 8" or so. This
allowed the pins to make the radius bend on the cowl sides but fully lock up
the top cowl hinge area.
I found out tapering these stainless steel pins was not simple. After some
trial and error I ended up putting the .120 pins in a drill press. With the
drill press on low speed, I used a die grinder with a rotary metal file
attachment to work the pin down. This was followed by some hand sanding -
the pin still rotating by the drill press. Start with a pin longer than you
need as you will cut off the end of the pin that was in the drill chuck.
Some oil to lubricate the pin on first install and all is well.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg McFarlane
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tapered Top Cowl Pins
--> <grbcmcfarlane@gmail.com>
Here is a quick easy way to allow the 120 top pins to be used to retain that
nice fit and stop the cowl ballooning. Place a piece of hardwood about 10
inches long in a vice. Using a CUTTING disc on a 4inch grinder make a
straight shallow cut the length of the wood then mark a line across the wood
7inches from one end. Cut the pins to length, hold one end in an electric
drill and have an assistant operate the drill at about 1000rpm, hold the
rotating pin with one hand on the wood groove and with the other hand a 4
inch grinder with a GRINDING disc. GENTLY and EVENLY apply the grinder to
the first 6inches of the pin using the mark on the wood as a guide. Check
the diameter as you go, when about 100 discard the assistant and using the
drill yourself sand the pin smooth. Sand the end of the pin per plans to
give a nice lead in.The pin needs only to be tapered for about 6inches and
that allows it to enter and go around the curve in the hinge nicely and
keeps everything nice and s!
nug. Cheers from Western Australia
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392870#392870
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
David Clifford
Thanks for your answer as well..
Do you have a picture?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
davidsoutpost@comcast.net
Sent: s=C3=A1bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 22:50
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair
vents mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
_____
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
David
Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end
of
your post.
By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you
support
it below the panel, did you make a bracket?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: s=C3=A1bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 13:11
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well
that
way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I
bought
the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93
<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&
browse> &browse
=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein
sells. These
are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light
airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh
air
than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain,
either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I
don't
have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400327#400327
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| Subject: | Re: Fresh Air Vents |
The pictures were attachments on my first reply to your post.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo@mail.telepac.pt>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:06:10 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
David Clifford
Thanks for your answer as well..
Do you have a picture?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of davidsoutpost@comcast.net
Sent: s=C3=A1bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 22:50
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I'm not sure which David you are referring to but mine are the Steinair ven
ts mounted to the stock RV-10 kit Naca's with the square flange.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Trigo" < trigo@mail.telepac.pt >
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:50:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
David
Thanks for your answer, but I didn't get any photo you refer at the end of
your post.
By the way, since you installed the vent at that angle, how did you support
it below the panel, did you make a bracket?
Carlos
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[ mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of dmaib@me.com
Sent: s=C3=A1bado, 11 de Maio de 2013 13:11
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fresh Air Vents
I have mine installed at that angle and find that they work really well tha
t
way. Each one can pretty much be pointed anywhere in the cockpit. I bought
the upgraded aluminum vents from Van's.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/store.cgi?ident=1368273286-484-93&bro
wse
=heatvent&product=sv-6 They are very similar to the ones Stein sells. T
hese
are probably the most efficient air vents I have ever seen on a light
airplane. They adjust easily and are capable of providing way more fresh ai
r
than you usually need, The aluminum vents from Vans do not leak in rain,
either.
I think they work really well when mounted as per the instructions. I don't
have any good closeup photos, but here is one in my old "pre-GRT" panel.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Transition Trainer
New Smyrna Beach, FL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400327#400327
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