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Wed 05/15/13


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:00 AM - 500 (Rob Kochman)
     2. 12:24 PM - Re: Electronic Ignition (hotwheels)
     3. 02:13 PM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (Bill Watson)
     4. 02:20 PM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (Bob Turner)
     5. 05:07 PM - Re: Fresh Air Vents (dmaib@me.com)
     6. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Electronic Ignition (Carl Froehlich)
     7. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: Electronic Ignition (Albert Gardner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:00:10 AM PST US
    Subject: 500
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    For those who missed it: https://www.facebook.com/notes/vans-aircraft-inc/rv-10-500/602548626422180 -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 12:24:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition
    From: "hotwheels" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
    I have dual Lightspeed Plasma III's on my Lyco IO-540. Using dual batteries and alternators (Z-14 architecture). LSE start engine on 1-2 blades and there's no discernible RPM drop between A&B sides during run up. Note that Plasma III boxes require forced cooling and ManP connections for spark advance. Separate wire runs for coax and sensor wires prevent EMF issues. Flywheel timing magnets are required (got LSE to do mine). Behind-prop sensor mounting bracket required drilling/tapping a couple of holes in the case. It turned out fine, but I puckered the whole time all the same. Proper connection of coax outputs to respective coil was an interesting exercise and resulted in a bit of learning on my part. So far, I like 'em... with one caveat: Version "A1" box died at 14 hours while on the ground and just after engine start (my other box is version B). The good news is that redundancy worked as expected and the engine just kept right on turning. Wouldn't have have noticed until run up had the circuit breaker hadn't popped and warning LED illuminated. I checked the wiring, called LSE support and sent the offending box in for service. Will report back on whatever is found. Klaus has been friendly and helpful when I've had questions. Cheers, Jay N433RV Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400702#400702


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    Time: 02:13:52 PM PST US
    From: Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents
    Carlos, I did something a bit different. I can see from David Maib's photo that he has a Stein panel blank as well as Steins eyeball vent. I used the same panel blank and vent but instead of mounting it below the panel, I put the vent on the panel and ran a piece of SCAT (I actually used CEET for the color and so that the wire is covered, won't rust and it has less internal friction to air flow). Take a look here: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=66090&row=6 It turns out that you can do a minimum radius 360 turn with the SCAT quite nicely. I just added a pic showing it finished: http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=170694&row=1 The SCAT (or CEET) is slightly visible underneath the panel but is completely non-obtrusive. I think the vent looks best mounted in the panel. Makes a nice water trap if that's a problem (I guess it isn't because I've never heard anyone complain about it) Bill "having just been reminded that it's bird nesting season... do they always build on cylinders 1-3-5" Watson


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    Time: 02:20:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    I used the Stein vents mounted in a hole in a piece of scrap aluminum, which in turn was mounted directly to the Van's duct with some screws/nuts. I did put a piece of nylon screen in there to keep out bugs. I mounted the Van's duct late in the game, and as I had no easy way to clamp it, I used a couple of flush pull rivets (fore and aft) to hold it while the pro-seal set. I left the rivets in. Works fine, air can be directed anywhere, lots of it once you're moving. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400706#400706


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    Time: 05:07:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vents
    From: "dmaib@me.com" <dmaib@me.com>
    Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote: > Carlos, I did something a bit different. > > I can see from David Maib's photo that he has a Stein panel blank as > well as Steins eyeball vent. I used the same panel blank and vent but > instead of mounting it below the panel, I put the vent on the panel and > ran a piece of SCAT (I actually used CEET for the color and so that the > wire is covered, won't rust and it has less internal friction to air > flow). Take a look here: > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=66090&row=6 > > It turns out that you can do a minimum radius 360 turn with the SCAT > quite nicely. I just added a pic showing it finished: > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=5253&log=170694&row=1 > > > > The SCAT (or CEET) is slightly visible underneath the panel but is > completely non-obtrusive. I think the vent looks best mounted in the > panel. Makes a nice water trap if that's a problem (I guess it isn't > because I've never heard anyone complain about it) > > Bill "having just been reminded that it's bird nesting season... do they > always build on cylinders 1-3-5" Watson That is a really nice looking air vent installation, Bill. Maybe on my next airplane................. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Transition Trainer New Smyrna Beach, FL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400715#400715


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    Time: 05:28:05 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition
    Yep - the first hard failure in my dual Lightspeed install (RV-8A) was evidenced with the breaker popping open and not resetting. I however was in the air at the time. I had a troubled experience with this install starting with the kits as they came out of the box, and just gave up after the problems simply kept coming. I replace the ignitions with pMags 300 hours ago and can report the pMags have been flawless. For the RV-10 I plan on staying with the stock Slick mags and continue my patient wait for the six cylinder pMags from Brad. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hotwheels Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electronic Ignition I have dual Lightspeed Plasma III's on my Lyco IO-540. Using dual batteries and alternators (Z-14 architecture). LSE start engine on 1-2 blades and there's no discernible RPM drop between A&B sides during run up. Note that Plasma III boxes require forced cooling and ManP connections for spark advance. Separate wire runs for coax and sensor wires prevent EMF issues. Flywheel timing magnets are required (got LSE to do mine). Behind-prop sensor mounting bracket required drilling/tapping a couple of holes in the case. It turned out fine, but I puckered the whole time all the same. Proper connection of coax outputs to respective coil was an interesting exercise and resulted in a bit of learning on my part. So far, I like 'em... with one caveat: Version "A1" box died at 14 hours while on the ground and just after engine start (my other box is version B). The good news is that redundancy worked as expected and the engine just kept right on turning. Wouldn't have have noticed until run up had the circuit breaker hadn't popped and warning LED illuminated. I checked the wiring, called LSE support and sent the offending box in for service. Will report back on whatever is found. Klaus has been friendly and helpful when I've had questions. Cheers, Jay N433RV Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400702#400702


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    Time: 08:40:56 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Electronic Ignition
    800 hours on my RV-10 with a Slick mag and Lightspeed electronic ignition. Only problem with the Lightspeed was a coil failure 200 hours ago. On second mag with several incidents. Love the Lightspeed. Good service on getting the coil and plugs as needed. Albert Gardner N9914RV Yuma, AZ




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