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1. 06:06 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Jesse Saint)
2. 07:19 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Kelly McMullen)
3. 07:44 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Seano)
4. 07:53 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Linn)
5. 08:03 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (rv10flyer)
6. 08:48 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (John Cox)
7. 09:03 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (BPA)
8. 09:22 AM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Linn)
9. 01:11 PM - Re: Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Kelly McMullen)
10. 01:15 PM - Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor drive (Kelly McMullen)
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drive
All TMX engines should be wide deck.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need is whether you have
a narrow deck version or a wide deck. Which one you have depends on the core
used to build the engine, not who assembled it.
> You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow deck have hollow
allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional hex nuts on studs.
> The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck. (despite the fact that
all new engines Vans sells are wide deck). While adjustments can be made to
make the Vans governor work on a wide deck, it still won't be correct. Jim Ayers
has often posted here the correct information. A wide deck engine is supposed
to get a P-860-5 MT governor.
> More detail on the differences at http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-deck-engines/
> On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
>>
>> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction drive is, I don`t
have my engine documentation currently with me. Does anyone know who has an TMX-io540
Red/Gold? I just want to be sure that the P-860-3 MT governor is really
the correct one.
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
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drive
Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It didn't
occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built from new parts
kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about 18 months ago. As has
been noted before, if one has a wide deck engine, then the MT P-860-5
governor is the correct unit of that brand. It is unfortunate that Van's
still only supplies the narrow deck P-860-3 governor, when they have never
sold a new narrow deck engine. (Lyc stopped making narrow deck more than 10
yrs before Van founded his company).
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>wrote:
>
> All TMX engines should be wide deck.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need is whether
> you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck. Which one you have depends
> on the core used to build the engine, not who assembled it.
> > You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow deck have
> hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional hex nuts on studs.
> > The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck. (despite the
> fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide deck). While adjustments can
> be made to make the Vans governor work on a wide deck, it still won't be
> correct. Jim Ayers has often posted here the correct information. A wide
> deck engine is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT governor.
> > More detail on the differences at
> http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-deck-engines/
> > On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
> >>
> >> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction drive is, I
> don`t have my engine documentation currently with me. Does anyone know who
> has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just want to be sure that the P-860-3 MT
> governor is really the correct one.
> >> Thanks
> >> Mike
> >>
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drive
Not sure if it has been brought up already but I have an MT -3 governor
on a wide deck IO-540-N1A5 and it works fine with full RPM range.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly McMullen
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: how can I find out the gear reduction for the
governor drive
Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It
didn't occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built from new
parts kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about 18 months ago.
As has been noted before, if one has a wide deck engine, then the MT
P-860-5 governor is the correct unit of that brand. It is unfortunate
that Van's still only supplies the narrow deck P-860-3 governor, when
they have never sold a new narrow deck engine. (Lyc stopped making
narrow deck more than 10 yrs before Van founded his company).
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
<jesse@saintaviation.com>
All TMX engines should be wide deck.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
wrote:
<kellym@aviating.com>
>
> The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need is
whether you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck. Which one you
have depends on the core used to build the engine, not who assembled it.
> You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow deck
have hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional hex nuts on
studs.
> The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck. (despite
the fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide deck). While
adjustments can be made to make the Vans governor work on a wide deck,
it still won't be correct. Jim Ayers has often posted here the correct
information. A wide deck engine is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT
governor.
> More detail on the differences at
http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-d
eck-engines/
> On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
<rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
>>
>> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction drive
is, I don`t have my engine documentation currently with me. Does anyone
know who has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just want to be sure that the
P-860-3 MT governor is really the correct one.
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
>> --------
>> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
>> #511
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401444#401444
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drive
Whew!!! I'm really glad to hear that!!!! I just checked, and mine is a
-3 also. I'm in the baffling baffling section and scratched mine all
up. Don't think they'll trade now. My group flies to Deland (FL) for
food (none where we live ;-) ) right next to the MT facility which we'll
try and tour. I'll pose the question.
Linn
On 5/28/2013 10:43 AM, Seano wrote:
> Not sure if it has been brought up already but I have an MT -3
> governor on a wide deck IO-540-N1A5 and it works fine with full RPM range.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kelly McMullen <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: how can I find out the gear reduction
> for the governor drive
>
> Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It
> didn't occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built
> from new parts kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about
> 18 months ago. As has been noted before, if one has a wide deck
> engine, then the MT P-860-5 governor is the correct unit of that
> brand. It is unfortunate that Van's still only supplies the narrow
> deck P-860-3 governor, when they have never sold a new narrow deck
> engine. (Lyc stopped making narrow deck more than 10 yrs before
> Van founded his company).
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint
> <jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>> wrote:
>
> <jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>>
>
> All TMX engines should be wide deck.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285 <tel:352-427-0285>
> F: 815-377-3694 <tel:815-377-3694>
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen
> <kellym@aviating.com <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>> wrote:
>
> <kellym@aviating.com <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
> >
> > The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need
> is whether you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck.
> Which one you have depends on the core used to build the
> engine, not who assembled it.
> > You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow
> deck have hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional
> hex nuts on studs.
> > The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck.
> (despite the fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide
> deck). While adjustments can be made to make the Vans governor
> work on a wide deck, it still won't be correct. Jim Ayers has
> often posted here the correct information. A wide deck engine
> is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT governor.
> > More detail on the differences at
> http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-deck-engines/
> > On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net <mailto:rv-10@wellenzohn.net>>
> >>
> >> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction
> drive is, I don`t have my engine documentation currently with
> me. Does anyone know who has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just
> want to be sure that the P-860-3 MT governor is really the
> correct one.
> >> Thanks
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> --------
> >> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
> >> #511
> >>
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> >>
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drive
My -3 also has worked fine after some minor speed adjustments. I spoke to MT and
it is acceptable.
The -3 or -5 defines the settings relief valve pressure, max. RPM, control arm
travel and position etc.
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drive
Kelly, if I read your post correctly, all of the new Lycoming engines sold
by VANS of the IO-540 variant are now only Wide Deck and not Narrow Deck.
Aren't each of the wide deck jugs heavier and too wide to fit the stock
RV-10 fiberglass cowl design? Or is that just for the Angle Valve Heads
versus Parallel Valve?
John C.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It didn't
> occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built from new parts
> kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about 18 months ago. As has
> been noted before, if one has a wide deck engine, then the MT P-860-5
> governor is the correct unit of that brand. It is unfortunate that Van's
> still only supplies the narrow deck P-860-3 governor, when they have never
> sold a new narrow deck engine. (Lyc stopped making narrow deck more than 10
> yrs before Van founded his company).
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> All TMX engines should be wide deck.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> C: 352-427-0285
>> F: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need is whether
>> you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck. Which one you have depends
>> on the core used to build the engine, not who assembled it.
>> > You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow deck have
>> hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional hex nuts on studs.
>> > The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck. (despite the
>> fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide deck). While adjustments can
>> be made to make the Vans governor work on a wide deck, it still won't be
>> correct. Jim Ayers has often posted here the correct information. A wide
>> deck engine is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT governor.
>> > More detail on the differences at
>> http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-deck-engines/
>> > On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction drive is, I
>> don`t have my engine documentation currently with me. Does anyone know who
>> has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just want to be sure that the P-860-3 MT
>> governor is really the correct one.
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> --------
>> >> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
>> >> #511
>> >>
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>> >>
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drive
John,
That's just for the angle head cylinders. Both narrow deck and wide deck
engines fit the RV-10 cowl.
Allen
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: how can I find out the gear reduction for the
governor drive
Kelly, if I read your post correctly, all of the new Lycoming engines
sold by VANS of the IO-540 variant are now only Wide Deck and not Narrow
Deck. Aren't each of the wide deck jugs heavier and too wide to fit the
stock RV-10 fiberglass cowl design? Or is that just for the Angle Valve
Heads versus Parallel Valve?
John C.
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
wrote:
Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It didn't
occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built from new parts
kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about 18 months ago. As
has been noted before, if one has a wide deck engine, then the MT
P-860-5 governor is the correct unit of that brand. It is unfortunate
that Van's still only supplies the narrow deck P-860-3 governor, when
they have never sold a new narrow deck engine. (Lyc stopped making
narrow deck more than 10 yrs before Van founded his company).
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
All TMX engines should be wide deck.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
>
> The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need is whether
you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck. Which one you have
depends on the core used to build the engine, not who assembled it.
> You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow deck have
hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional hex nuts on studs.
> The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck. (despite the
fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide deck). While adjustments
can be made to make the Vans governor work on a wide deck, it still
won't be correct. Jim Ayers has often posted here the correct
information. A wide deck engine is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT
governor.
> More detail on the differences at
http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-
deck-engines/
> On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
>>
>> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction drive is, I
don`t have my engine documentation currently with me. Does anyone know
who has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just want to be sure that the P-860-3
MT governor is really the correct one.
>> Thanks
>> Mike
>>
>> --------
>> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
>> #511
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401444#401444
>>
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drive
I'm not Kelly .... nor do I play him on TV .... but there's a big
misconception about WD/ND engines. There's a good treatise here:
*http://tinyurl.com/qjk83xk
Linn
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On 5/28/2013 11:47 AM, John Cox wrote:
> Kelly, if I read your post correctly, all of the new Lycoming engines
> sold by VANS of the IO-540 variant are now only Wide Deck and not
> Narrow Deck. Aren't each of the wide deck jugs heavier and too wide
> to fit the stock RV-10 fiberglass cowl design? Or is that just for
> the Angle Valve Heads versus Parallel Valve?
>
> John C.
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com
> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It
> didn't occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built
> from new parts kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about
> 18 months ago. As has been noted before, if one has a wide deck
> engine, then the MT P-860-5 governor is the correct unit of that
> brand. It is unfortunate that Van's still only supplies the narrow
> deck P-860-3 governor, when they have never sold a new narrow deck
> engine. (Lyc stopped making narrow deck more than 10 yrs before
> Van founded his company).
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint
> <jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>> wrote:
>
> <jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>>
>
> All TMX engines should be wide deck.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285 <tel:352-427-0285>
> F: 815-377-3694 <tel:815-377-3694>
>
> On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen
> <kellym@aviating.com <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>> wrote:
>
> <kellym@aviating.com <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
> >
> > The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need
> is whether you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck.
> Which one you have depends on the core used to build the
> engine, not who assembled it.
> > You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow
> deck have hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional
> hex nuts on studs.
> > The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck.
> (despite the fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide
> deck). While adjustments can be made to make the Vans governor
> work on a wide deck, it still won't be correct. Jim Ayers has
> often posted here the correct information. A wide deck engine
> is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT governor.
> > More detail on the differences at
> http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-deck-engines/
> > On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
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> >> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction
> drive is, I don`t have my engine documentation currently with
> me. Does anyone know who has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just
> want to be sure that the P-860-3 MT governor is really the
> correct one.
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drive
Yes, the -3 works with some adjustment. However, the -5 has the correct
gear reduction and pressures to begin with, so given the opportunity to
get the correct one rather than having to make adjustments, for the same
money seems like one of the easier build decisions.
On 5/28/2013 8:03 AM, rv10flyer wrote:
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> My -3 also has worked fine after some minor speed adjustments. I spoke to MT
and it is acceptable.
>
> The -3 or -5 defines the settings relief valve pressure, max. RPM, control arm
travel and position etc.
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drive
It is more fun when the lovely Miss Rhonda shows John the errors in his
thinking. ;-))
I don't think there is more than about 1/4" difference between wide and
narrow deck engines. Narrow deck allegedly is about 4 lbs lighter, but
the newest ND case is likely to be approaching 40 yrs old.
Kelly
On 5/28/2013 9:05 AM, BPA wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thats just for the angle head cylinders. Both narrow deck and wide
> deck engines fit the RV-10 cowl.
>
> Allen
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> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Cox
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:48 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: how can I find out the gear reduction for
> the governor drive
>
> Kelly, if I read your post correctly, all of the new Lycoming engines
> sold by VANS of the IO-540 variant are now only Wide Deck and not
> Narrow Deck. Aren't each of the wide deck jugs heavier and too wide to
> fit the stock RV-10 fiberglass cowl design? Or is that just for the
> Angle Valve Heads versus Parallel Valve?
>
> John C.
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com
> <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Assuming that they are built from new parts kits or WD cores. It
> didn't occur to me that anyone would still have an engine built from
> new parts kit, since Lyc priced those out of the market about 18
> months ago. As has been noted before, if one has a wide deck engine,
> then the MT P-860-5 governor is the correct unit of that brand. It is
> unfortunate that Van's still only supplies the narrow deck P-860-3
> governor, when they have never sold a new narrow deck engine. (Lyc
> stopped making narrow deck more than 10 yrs before Van founded his
> company).
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com
> <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>>
>
> All TMX engines should be wide deck.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> C: 352-427-0285 <tel:352-427-0285>
> F: 815-377-3694 <tel:815-377-3694>
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>
> On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com
> <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
> >
> > The only thing that determines what gear reduction you need is
> whether you have a narrow deck version or a wide deck. Which one you
> have depends on the core used to build the engine, not who assembled it.
> > You can easily tell by the cylinder hold down bolts. Narrow deck
> have hollow allen key bolts. Wide deck has conventional hex nuts on studs.
> > The governor Van's sells has reduction for narrow deck. (despite the
> fact that all new engines Vans sells are wide deck). While adjustments
> can be made to make the Vans governor work on a wide deck, it still
> won't be correct. Jim Ayers has often posted here the correct
> information. A wide deck engine is supposed to get a P-860-5 MT governor.
> > More detail on the differences at
> http://www.generalaviationnews.com/2009/10/ask-paul-wide-deck-vs-narrow-deck-engines/
> > On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
> <rv-10@wellenzohn.net <mailto:rv-10@wellenzohn.net>>
> >>
> >> I own an TMXIO-540 and wonder what the governor reduction drive is,
> I don`t have my engine documentation currently with me. Does anyone
> know who has an TMX-io540 Red/Gold? I just want to be sure that the
> P-860-3 MT governor is really the correct one.
> >> Thanks
> >> Mike
> >>
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> >> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
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