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1. 02:49 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Bob Leffler)
2. 04:40 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Rob Kermanj)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Bob Leffler)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Rene Felker)
5. 08:24 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Bob Turner)
6. 08:32 AM - Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Jonathan Beasley)
7. 08:40 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (William Greenley)
8. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor driv (Jim Ayers)
9. 09:27 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Pascal)
10. 10:27 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Deems Davis)
11. 01:51 PM - First Engine Run :-)))))) (Mike Whisky)
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop |
I have a Hartzell governor, but am a few weeks from flying.
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On May 30, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Karol Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com> wrote:
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>> Does anyone FLYING have the Hartzell Governor - Vans number: PROP GOV HZ IO-540?
If so, any issues? Set up, oil leaks, RPM hunting, or just any performance
or regrets for not getting the MT or some other governor? Having trouble
understanding why if we bought a Hartzell Prop from Vans that we would not use
a Hartzell Governor. In the FWF kit they automatically ship the MT: P-860-3.
I called MT and they said it would work just fine and they would be happy
to walk me through the set up procedures if needed. So I would appreciate some
active feedback from some FLYING 10's with this Hartzell Governor. I believe
in my 6 that we used a Woodward (sp?) Governor. Over 1000 hours and many years,
absolutely no problems.
> Thanks much,
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> Rich Hansen
> RV-6A sold
> 10-FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop |
I have 700 hr+ on my mt gov without any issues. There is a simple initial setup
for the lever position and limits. that is it.
I am not sure why van supplies mt instead of Hartzel but I suspect that with all
things Van, value is the factor.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
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On May 30, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Karol Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com> wrote:
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>> Does anyone FLYING have the Hartzell Governor - Vans number: PROP GOV HZ IO-540?
If so, any issues? Set up, oil leaks, RPM hunting, or just any performance
or regrets for not getting the MT or some other governor? Having trouble
understanding why if we bought a Hartzell Prop from Vans that we would not use
a Hartzell Governor. In the FWF kit they automatically ship the MT: P-860-3.
I called MT and they said it would work just fine and they would be happy
to walk me through the set up procedures if needed. So I would appreciate some
active feedback from some FLYING 10's with this Hartzell Governor. I believe
in my 6 that we used a Woodward (sp?) Governor. Over 1000 hours and many years,
absolutely no problems.
> Thanks much,
>
> Rich Hansen
> RV-6A sold
> 10-FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop |
Vans randomly supplies both. My Hartzell governor came in the FWF kit. I don't
know the logic they use to determine which vendor they ship.
If you do get a Hartzell, you'll need to replace the arm. Which Van doesn't include
and costs another $27.
Bob
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On May 30, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not sure why van supplies mt instead of Hartzel but I suspect that with all
things Van, value is the factor.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop |
"a few weeks from flying" that sounds promising. :) Enjoy
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop
I have a Hartzell governor, but am a few weeks from flying.
Sent from my iPad
On May 30, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Karol Hansen <karolamy@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> --> <karolamy@roadrunner.com>
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>> Does anyone FLYING have the Hartzell Governor - Vans number: PROP GOV HZ
IO-540? If so, any issues? Set up, oil leaks, RPM hunting, or just any
performance or regrets for not getting the MT or some other governor?
Having trouble understanding why if we bought a Hartzell Prop from Vans that
we would not use a Hartzell Governor. In the FWF kit they automatically
ship the MT: P-860-3. I called MT and they said it would work just fine
and they would be happy to walk me through the set up procedures if needed.
So I would appreciate some active feedback from some FLYING 10's with this
Hartzell Governor. I believe in my 6 that we used a Woodward (sp?)
Governor. Over 1000 hours and many years, absolutely no problems.
> Thanks much,
>
> Rich Hansen
> RV-6A sold
> 10-FWF
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop |
I have 120+ hours on stock Vans YIO-540, 2 blade Hartzell, and Hartzell governor
from Vans. No problems. I asked Vans for this governor, as I recall I think
it was the same price as the MT.
You do NOT need a new arm. You do need to re-orient the arm, easily done. Hartzell
gave instructions after an email request.
Mine was set for 2650 rpm out of the box. I left it there.
My hangar neighbor also has a -10 with the same Hartzell set up, a few fewer hours.
No issues for him, either.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Sound Proofing and Heat Shield |
Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? Obviously
many choices are available=8A Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, Heat Shield Mat
,
etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesting to see how
many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going =B3au naturale=B2
.
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Jonathan Beasley
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| Subject: | Sound Proofing and Heat Shield |
Check out this discussion on vans air force.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=97778
Bill Greenley, RV-10 in progress
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Beasley
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield
Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? Obviously
many choices are available. Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, Heat Shield Mat,
etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesting to see how
many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going "au naturale".
----
Jonathan Beasley
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| Subject: | Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor |
driv
The -3 and -5 governors are identical, except for the final adjustments.
For the -3 governor on the wide deck IO-540 engine, the high RPM stop screw
has to be turned out quite a bit to get to 2700 RPM from the factory setti
ng of about 2550 RPM. (For the narrow deck IO-540 engine, the initial stop
setting on the -3 governor would be at about 2700 RPM.)
The -3 governor on a wide deck IO-540 now has a longer travel to get to th
e low RPM stop. The governor arm should have full travel from the high RPM
stop to the low RPM stop.
Perhaps someone already flying can say if they have full travel (stop to st
op) available with Van's governor cable.
Full governor arm travel is helpful to have for the mag check so it is poss
ible to get the expected 450 RPM drop when the governor/propeller is cycled
.
Jim Ayers
-----Original Message-----
From: jkreidler <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 8:52 am
Subject: RV10-List: Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the gover
nor driv
m>
I understand you can make the MT governor sold by Van's work by changing th
e arm
position and making a few adjustments as that is what we did. But can some
one
tell me what the operational impact is of having the incorrect one installe
d?
Slower reaction, incorrect pitch for a given power, pitch changes too quick
ly,
etc.? Just because it works doesn't mean it is right, just trying to under
stand
what trade off is being made. -Jason
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Jason Kreidler
4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
N44YH - Flying - #40617
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| Subject: | Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield |
I sprayed on a sound proofer. and heat shield. If I was doing it again.
I would get a heat blanket for the firewall and keep the top of the line
headsets, skip the sound proofing all together. Even with all the sound
proofing I did I still have a plane that is so loud when cruising that I
wonder what it would be like with out it, so I wear Lightspeed Zulu and
it all goes away.
As a reference when I knocked on the skin it had a noise that went away
with the sound proofer so it does something, just not much up in the
air.
From: Jonathan Beasley
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield
Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield?
Obviously many choices are available Soundex, 3M, Super Sound
Proof, Heat Shield Mat, etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would
be interesting to see how many people have selected to install sound
proofing vs. going =9Cau naturale=9D.
----
Jonathan Beasley
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| Subject: | Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield |
FiberFrax sandwiched between Stainless Steel.
Pics start here:
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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
> I sprayed on a sound proofer. and heat shield. If I was doing it again.
> I would get a heat blanket for the firewall and keep the top of the line
> headsets, skip the sound proofing all together. Even with all the sound
> proofing I did I still have a plane that is so loud when cruising that I
> wonder what it would be like with out it, so I wear Lightspeed Zulu and i
t
> all goes away.
> As a reference when I knocked on the skin it had a noise that went away
> with the sound proofer so it does something, just not much up in the air.
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Beasley <jbeasley@nc.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:32 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield
>
> Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield?
> Obviously many choices are available=85 Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, H
eat
> Shield Mat, etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesti
ng
> to see how many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going
=93
> *au naturale*=94.
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| Subject: | First Engine Run :-)))))) |
Yesterday I achieved a major milestone, first engine start.
All went well and all systems work as expected.
The video is cut a bit because watching a prop turn without any instruments isn't
that exciting for the audience ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxwI5bNZ1Uk
Cheers
Mike
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RV-10 builder (final assembly)
#511
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