---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/30/13: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:49 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Bob Leffler) 2. 04:40 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Rob Kermanj) 3. 05:14 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Bob Leffler) 4. 06:06 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Rene Felker) 5. 08:24 AM - Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop (Bob Turner) 6. 08:32 AM - Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Jonathan Beasley) 7. 08:40 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (William Greenley) 8. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor driv (Jim Ayers) 9. 09:27 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Pascal) 10. 10:27 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Deems Davis) 11. 01:51 PM - First Engine Run :-)))))) (Mike Whisky) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop From: Bob Leffler I have a Hartzell governor, but am a few weeks from flying. Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Karol Hansen wrote: > > >> >> Does anyone FLYING have the Hartzell Governor - Vans number: PROP GOV HZ IO-540? If so, any issues? Set up, oil leaks, RPM hunting, or just any performance or regrets for not getting the MT or some other governor? Having trouble understanding why if we bought a Hartzell Prop from Vans that we would not use a Hartzell Governor. In the FWF kit they automatically ship the MT: P-860-3. I called MT and they said it would work just fine and they would be happy to walk me through the set up procedures if needed. So I would appreciate some active feedback from some FLYING 10's with this Hartzell Governor. I believe in my 6 that we used a Woodward (sp?) Governor. Over 1000 hours and many years, absolutely no problems. > Thanks much, > > Rich Hansen > RV-6A sold > 10-FWF > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop From: Rob Kermanj I have 700 hr+ on my mt gov without any issues. There is a simple initial setup for the lever position and limits. that is it. I am not sure why van supplies mt instead of Hartzel but I suspect that with all things Van, value is the factor. Do not archive. Rob Kermanj Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Karol Hansen wrote: > > >> >> Does anyone FLYING have the Hartzell Governor - Vans number: PROP GOV HZ IO-540? If so, any issues? Set up, oil leaks, RPM hunting, or just any performance or regrets for not getting the MT or some other governor? Having trouble understanding why if we bought a Hartzell Prop from Vans that we would not use a Hartzell Governor. In the FWF kit they automatically ship the MT: P-860-3. I called MT and they said it would work just fine and they would be happy to walk me through the set up procedures if needed. So I would appreciate some active feedback from some FLYING 10's with this Hartzell Governor. I believe in my 6 that we used a Woodward (sp?) Governor. Over 1000 hours and many years, absolutely no problems. > Thanks much, > > Rich Hansen > RV-6A sold > 10-FWF > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop From: Bob Leffler Vans randomly supplies both. My Hartzell governor came in the FWF kit. I don't know the logic they use to determine which vendor they ship. If you do get a Hartzell, you'll need to replace the arm. Which Van doesn't include and costs another $27. Bob Sent from my iPhone On May 30, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: I am not sure why van supplies mt instead of Hartzel but I suspect that with all things Van, value is the factor. Do not archive. Rob Kermanj Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:17 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop "a few weeks from flying" that sounds promising. :) Enjoy Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:49 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop I have a Hartzell governor, but am a few weeks from flying. Sent from my iPad On May 30, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Karol Hansen wrote: > --> > > >> >> Does anyone FLYING have the Hartzell Governor - Vans number: PROP GOV HZ IO-540? If so, any issues? Set up, oil leaks, RPM hunting, or just any performance or regrets for not getting the MT or some other governor? Having trouble understanding why if we bought a Hartzell Prop from Vans that we would not use a Hartzell Governor. In the FWF kit they automatically ship the MT: P-860-3. I called MT and they said it would work just fine and they would be happy to walk me through the set up procedures if needed. So I would appreciate some active feedback from some FLYING 10's with this Hartzell Governor. I believe in my 6 that we used a Woodward (sp?) Governor. Over 1000 hours and many years, absolutely no problems. > Thanks much, > > Rich Hansen > RV-6A sold > 10-FWF > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:10 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Hartzell Governor with C2YR Prop From: "Bob Turner" I have 120+ hours on stock Vans YIO-540, 2 blade Hartzell, and Hartzell governor from Vans. No problems. I asked Vans for this governor, as I recall I think it was the same price as the MT. You do NOT need a new arm. You do need to re-orient the arm, easily done. Hartzell gave instructions after an email request. Mine was set for 2650 rpm out of the box. I left it there. My hangar neighbor also has a -10 with the same Hartzell set up, a few fewer hours. No issues for him, either. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401593#401593 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:43 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield From: Jonathan Beasley Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? Obviously many choices are available=8A Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, Heat Shield Mat , etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesting to see how many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going =B3au naturale=B2 .. ---- Jonathan Beasley ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:29 AM PST US From: "William Greenley" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield Check out this discussion on vans air force. http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=97778 Bill Greenley, RV-10 in progress From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Beasley Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? Obviously many choices are available. Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, Heat Shield Mat, etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesting to see how many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going "au naturale". ---- Jonathan Beasley ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the governor driv From: Jim Ayers The -3 and -5 governors are identical, except for the final adjustments. For the -3 governor on the wide deck IO-540 engine, the high RPM stop screw has to be turned out quite a bit to get to 2700 RPM from the factory setti ng of about 2550 RPM. (For the narrow deck IO-540 engine, the initial stop setting on the -3 governor would be at about 2700 RPM.) The -3 governor on a wide deck IO-540 now has a longer travel to get to th e low RPM stop. The governor arm should have full travel from the high RPM stop to the low RPM stop. Perhaps someone already flying can say if they have full travel (stop to st op) available with Van's governor cable. Full governor arm travel is helpful to have for the mag check so it is poss ible to get the expected 450 RPM drop when the governor/propeller is cycled .. Jim Ayers -----Original Message----- From: jkreidler Sent: Wed, May 29, 2013 8:52 am Subject: RV10-List: Re: how can I find out the gear reduction for the gover nor driv m> I understand you can make the MT governor sold by Van's work by changing th e arm position and making a few adjustments as that is what we did. But can some one tell me what the operational impact is of having the incorrect one installe d? Slower reaction, incorrect pitch for a given power, pitch changes too quick ly, etc.? Just because it works doesn't mean it is right, just trying to under stand what trade off is being made. -Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401517#401517 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:57 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield I sprayed on a sound proofer. and heat shield. If I was doing it again. I would get a heat blanket for the firewall and keep the top of the line headsets, skip the sound proofing all together. Even with all the sound proofing I did I still have a plane that is so loud when cruising that I wonder what it would be like with out it, so I wear Lightspeed Zulu and it all goes away. As a reference when I knocked on the skin it had a noise that went away with the sound proofer so it does something, just not much up in the air. From: Jonathan Beasley Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? Obviously many choices are available Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, Heat Shield Mat, etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesting to see how many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going =9Cau naturale=9D. ---- Jonathan Beasley ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield From: Deems Davis FiberFrax sandwiched between Stainless Steel. Pics start here: http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2041%20Upper%20Fwd%20Fuse%20Install/slides/D SC03158.html read about it: : http://deemsrv10.com/upperfwdfuseinstallationlogindex.html Secv 41 Faux... On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Pascal wrote: > I sprayed on a sound proofer. and heat shield. If I was doing it again. > I would get a heat blanket for the firewall and keep the top of the line > headsets, skip the sound proofing all together. Even with all the sound > proofing I did I still have a plane that is so loud when cruising that I > wonder what it would be like with out it, so I wear Lightspeed Zulu and i t > all goes away. > As a reference when I knocked on the skin it had a noise that went away > with the sound proofer so it does something, just not much up in the air. > > > *From:* Jonathan Beasley > *Sent:* Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:32 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield > > Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? > Obviously many choices are available=85 Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, H eat > Shield Mat, etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesti ng > to see how many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going =93 > *au naturale*=94. > > ---- > Jonathan Beasley > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:49 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: First Engine Run :-)))))) From: "Mike Whisky" Yesterday I achieved a major milestone, first engine start. All went well and all systems work as expected. The video is cut a bit because watching a prop turn without any instruments isn't that exciting for the audience ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxwI5bNZ1Uk Cheers Mike -------- RV-10 builder (final assembly) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401618#401618 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.