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1. 12:16 AM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (Robin Marks)
2. 07:23 AM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (g.combs)
3. 07:31 AM - Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield (Jonathan Beasley)
4. 09:03 AM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (David Leikam)
5. 09:29 AM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (Carl Froehlich)
6. 09:43 AM - Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? (Mike Whisky)
7. 09:46 AM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (Pascal)
8. 10:05 AM - Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? (Dave Saylor)
9. 11:28 AM - Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? (Linn)
10. 12:03 PM - Re: Bad Starter Noise (Marcus Cooper)
11. 12:47 PM - Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? (Kevin Belue)
12. 01:47 PM - Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? (Lyle Peterson)
13. 09:57 PM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper ()
14. 10:01 PM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (Kelly McMullen)
15. 11:03 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
16. 11:05 PM - Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper (Robin Marks)
17. 11:08 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
The beauty of putting the cube in the tunnel is that you get to remove & relocate
it once you are flying. Talk about enjoyable! I did as the plans describe and
had 2-3 gph fluctuations including 800 RPM taxi showing 12 GPH... sometimes.
Other times it would read 4.3 GPH. Want another indication just flip on your
boost pump and you get a whole different reading. No way for me to balance injectors
w/o accurate fuel flow. I relocated FWF (I like Sean's install in archives)
and all issues went away. I still get the occasional 0.4 GPH fluctuations
but that is because I don't have the ideal length flow in/out of the cube.
I only have read one pirep on the damper and it was No Joy.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper
I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard location)
vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about experience
with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would solve the problems
the tunnel location has?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401718#401718
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| Subject: | Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
I ditto Robins remarks. Why take the chance of having a problem and then have to
move it. PIREP from everyone
Having it FWF is positive. 400 hrs and
Great results for myself. Soft mount it up front and be a happy.
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:16 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
> The beauty of putting the cube in the tunnel is that you get to remove & relocate
it once you are flying. Talk about enjoyable! I did as the plans describe
and had 2-3 gph fluctuations including 800 RPM taxi showing 12 GPH... sometimes.
Other times it would read 4.3 GPH. Want another indication just flip on your
boost pump and you get a whole different reading. No way for me to balance
injectors w/o accurate fuel flow. I relocated FWF (I like Sean's install in archives)
and all issues went away. I still get the occasional 0.4 GPH fluctuations
but that is because I don't have the ideal length flow in/out of the cube.
> I only have read one pirep on the damper and it was No Joy.
> Robin
>
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:04 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper
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> I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard location)
vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about experience
with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would solve the problems
the tunnel location has?
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| Subject: | Re: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield |
Thank you all and interesting read on the FiberFrax.
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield
FiberFrax sandwiched between Stainless Steel.
Pics start here:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2041%20Upper%20Fwd%20Fuse%20Install/slides/D
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C03158.html
read about it: : http://deemsrv10.com/upperfwdfuseinstallationlogindex.html
Secv 41 Faux...
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
> I sprayed on a sound proofer. and heat shield. If I was doing it again. I
> would get a heat blanket for the firewall and keep the top of the line
> headsets, skip the sound proofing all together. Even with all the sound
> proofing I did I still have a plane that is so loud when cruising that I
> wonder what it would be like with out it, so I wear Lightspeed Zulu and i
t all
> goes away.
> As a reference when I knocked on the skin it had a noise that went away w
ith
> the sound proofer so it does something, just not much up in the air.
>
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> From: Jonathan Beasley <mailto:jbeasley@nc.rr.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:32 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Sound Proofing and Heat Shield
>
> Any recommendations for sound proofing and firewall heat shield? Obviousl
y
> many choices are available=8A Soundex, 3M, Super Sound Proof, Heat Shield M
at,
> etc. What is working well in RV10 land? It would be interesting to see ho
w
> many people have selected to install sound proofing vs. going =B3au natural
e=B2.
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> Jonathan Beasley
>
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> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.
com/N
> avigator?RV10-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
Definitely put it between the servo and spider.
I talked directly with Flo-Scan about this and they said the worst place is between
the the two fuel pumps. They said the best would be before the valve. (We
can't do this obviously.)
I installed mine just in front of the servo (or after as flow goes,) with a somewhat
floating, flexible mount on the air box. I'm within a 1/2 gallon on every
fill.
Use flexible hose, do not make it rigid.
Dave Leikam
N89DA
On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:22 AM, g.combs wrote:
>
> I ditto Robins remarks. Why take the chance of having a problem and then have
to move it. PIREP from everyone
> Having it FWF is positive. 400 hrs and
> Great results for myself. Soft mount it up front and be a happy.
>
> Geoff
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:16 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
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>> The beauty of putting the cube in the tunnel is that you get to remove & relocate
it once you are flying. Talk about enjoyable! I did as the plans describe
and had 2-3 gph fluctuations including 800 RPM taxi showing 12 GPH... sometimes.
Other times it would read 4.3 GPH. Want another indication just flip on your
boost pump and you get a whole different reading. No way for me to balance
injectors w/o accurate fuel flow. I relocated FWF (I like Sean's install in archives)
and all issues went away. I still get the occasional 0.4 GPH fluctuations
but that is because I don't have the ideal length flow in/out of the cube.
>> I only have read one pirep on the damper and it was No Joy.
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:04 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard location)
vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about experience
with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would solve the problems
the tunnel location has?
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401718#401718
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| Subject: | Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
I mounted my Dynon "red cube" in the tunnel. I knew some had issues with
this location but it was the easy option. I do see some minor flow
fluctuation when I turn on the boost pump. Overall operation however is
fine and rock steady. My fuel used total is always within half a gallon
when I fill up. At this point I have no reason to move it. If I had it to
do over however I'd would likely put the cube between the throttle body and
the spider like I did in the 8A.
I did insulate the tunnel at the firewall and the tunnel floor, and I put a
piece of insulation between the red cube and the tunnel mount. I don't have
any tunnel heat issues.
Carl
90 hours.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 10:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
damper
I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard
location) vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about
experience with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would
solve the problems the tunnel location has?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401718#401718
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| Subject: | Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? |
Don't ask me I got there but I managed to shear off the guiding/locking pins of
my com antenna connector. See pictures. Does anyone know if it can be fixed without
buying a new antenna?
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
The flip side is Dynon does tell one (pg7-41) "It is common to place the
sender downstream of any auxiliary electric boost pumps but upstream of the
engine driven fuel pump." as does Vans. I think they need to consult Floscan
on getting that perception updated!! I am usually less than .3 off at
fillups, could be user error as well since I say 60 gallons and there may be
59.X, but it is pretty consistent and minor.
My point is that it works just fine for me in the tunnel. It probably is
easier to install in the spider/ servo area as the tunnel setup was a bear
for me from the boost pump, but it works and I dont see a need to move it..
With all that said- If I was doing this again- I would seriously consider
putting it up front by the servo/spider.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Leikam
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
damper
Definitely put it between the servo and spider.
I talked directly with Flo-Scan about this and they said the worst place is
between the the two fuel pumps. They said the best would be before the
valve. (We can't do this obviously.)
I installed mine just in front of the servo (or after as flow goes,) with a
somewhat floating, flexible mount on the air box. I'm within a 1/2 gallon
on every fill.
Use flexible hose, do not make it rigid.
Dave Leikam
N89DA
On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:22 AM, g.combs wrote:
>
> I ditto Robins remarks. Why take the chance of having a problem and then
> have to move it. PIREP from everyone
> Having it FWF is positive. 400 hrs and
> Great results for myself. Soft mount it up front and be a happy.
>
> Geoff
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:16 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The beauty of putting the cube in the tunnel is that you get to remove &
>> relocate it once you are flying. Talk about enjoyable! I did as the plans
>> describe and had 2-3 gph fluctuations including 800 RPM taxi showing 12
>> GPH... sometimes. Other times it would read 4.3 GPH. Want another
>> indication just flip on your boost pump and you get a whole different
>> reading. No way for me to balance injectors w/o accurate fuel flow. I
>> relocated FWF (I like Sean's install in archives) and all issues went
>> away. I still get the occasional 0.4 GPH fluctuations but that is because
>> I don't have the ideal length flow in/out of the cube.
>> I only have read one pirep on the damper and it was No Joy.
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:04 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
>> damper
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard
>> location) vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about
>> experience with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would
>> solve the problems the tunnel location has?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401718#401718
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| Subject: | Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? |
I would try making a short pigtail adapter and soldering the downstream BNC
housing to the antenna. Just have to make sure the center conductors are
engaged. Or just solder your existing connector to the antenna and put an
additional connector in when you have to remove it.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Mike Whisky <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
>
> Don't ask me I got there but I managed to shear off the guiding/locking
> pins of my com antenna connector. See pictures. Does anyone know if it can
> be fixed without buying a new antenna?
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401758#401758
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| Subject: | Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? |
On 6/1/2013 12:42 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
>
> Don't ask me I got there but I managed to shear off the guiding/locking pins
of my com antenna connector. See pictures. Does anyone know if it can be fixed
without buying a new antenna?
Can't be fixed. I've never seen that before, and I've seen a lot of BNC
connections!!! So, inquiring minds really do want to ask .... how.
The prudent thing to do would be to purchase another antenna.
I hate to even suggest this but you MAY be successful in cleaning the
antenna connections real good with MEK, gooping up the outside of the
antenna side with red silicone, and sliding on the cable. I have no
idea whether that will work because, as I said, I've never been there!!!
Linn
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> #511
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Starter Noise |
Just wanted to give an update on my starter situation. Being pretty confident
the noise was from the starter (although it ran smooth without a load off the
airplane), and that it was likely the kickback protection causing the racket I
called Sky-Tec who said they would evaluate the starter, repair and send it
back the same day so off it went in the mail. I got a call the day it arrived
there and the technician said it made an awful noise on the test stand, whereupon
I said that's why I sent it but was quite glad to hear it wasn't something
else. The crazy thing is he couldn't find anything wrong with it. He then
said it also could not be rebuilt (I'm not sure if it was due to being an older
model or the uncertainty of the problem) but they would send me a brand new
one with the self-reseting clutch for the price of rebuilding mine. Needless
to say I was very impressed with these folks and would not hesitate to send anyone
there way for a starter or repair work, I wish everyone dealt with customers
like this!
Marcus
On May 21, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Marcus Cooper <cooprv7@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks again to Rhonda for helping out with info on Quality Aircraft Accessories.
Just to pass on some details, I called them and it turns out they don't do
repairs but stock rebuilt units for a quick turn. Only Sky-Tec can work on
the starters. $388 including a $100 core charge (I presume that leaves $288 as
that is also what Sky-Tec charges for a rebuild). 30 Days to return your core
for the refund. Might be a good place to go if you are scrambling for a starter
and Sky-Tec is out of stock.
Marcus
On May 21, 2013, at 11:12 AM, "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> wrote:
Yes, they are the designated repair location for Skytec.
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bad Starter Noise
Thank you,
Just curious though, would it be better to send it to Quality
Aircraft Accessories than right to Skytec?
Marcus
do not archive
On May 21, 2013, at 9:29 AM, "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com>
wrote:
Quality Aircraft Accessories in Tulsa can now overhaul Skytec starters.
I would send it to them.
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bad Starter Noise
Probably a bearing going bad in the starter. Don't know what their
current charge is, but was around $150 last time I needed it, and they
shipped it out repaired the same day they received it.
On 5/20/2013 4:13 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote:
>
>
> I have a Skytec starter with just over 600 hours and recently it
started to make an awful grinding noise when starting the engine. The
noise seems to quite as soon as the engine starts (a little hard to tell
over the noise of the engine). Looking at the flywheel and bendix gear
I expected to see a storage wear pattern, and there is a slight one but
not really the indication I expected if it wasn't fully engaging. It
runs great off the engine and the bendix seems to fully extend, but I
know a starter can give a false sense of security when it isn't under
any load.
>
> Any thoughts on what the culprit might be?
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? |
The pins keep the connector tight to provide a good ground connection, so without
those you'll have problems- may burn out your transmitter. Replace it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 1, 2013, at 11:42 AM, "Mike Whisky" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net> wrote:
>
> Don't ask me I got there but I managed to shear off the guiding/locking pins
of my com antenna connector. See pictures. Does anyone know if it can be fixed
without buying a new antenna?
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (final assembly)
> #511
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401758#401758
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| Subject: | Re: Can you fix a broken BNC connector on a COM antenna? |
"Can't be fixed. " I have always taken the position that if man made
it, man (or woman) can fix it. It may take some careful surgery, sharp
knives, a Dremel tool, holding your tongue just right and one kind of
prayer or another. Always try to return the assembly to as near to
original as possible. The use of duct tape is not acceptable. It
doesn't even work on ducts. Adhesives are sometimes acceptable if the
original assembly used adhesive. Choosing the adhesive is the problem.
What was originally used. What material is being reassembled.
Yes, some things are not worth the time to fix them. Some things have
been assembled in such a way that even a sharp knife will not defeat the
assembly process.
It is always worth an attempt.
On 6/1/2013 1:26 PM, Linn wrote:
>
> On 6/1/2013 12:42 PM, Mike Whisky wrote:
>>
>> Don't ask me I got there but I managed to shear off the
>> guiding/locking pins of my com antenna connector. See pictures. Does
>> anyone know if it can be fixed without buying a new antenna?
> Can't be fixed. I've never seen that before, and I've seen a lot of
> BNC connections!!! So, inquiring minds really do want to ask .... how.
> The prudent thing to do would be to purchase another antenna.
> I hate to even suggest this but you MAY be successful in cleaning the
> antenna connections real good with MEK, gooping up the outside of the
> antenna side with red silicone, and sliding on the cable. I have no
> idea whether that will work because, as I said, I've never been there!!!
> Linn
>
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| Subject: | Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
Since, on injected engines, there is a fuel return line that goes from the pump
back to the fuel selector valve, does the Floscan sender report higher flue flow
than is actually used by the engine? Or is there only a small amount of fuel
returned via that bypass route?
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
---- Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
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> The flip side is Dynon does tell one (pg7-41) "It is common to place the
> sender downstream of any auxiliary electric boost pumps but upstream of the
> engine driven fuel pump." as does Vans. I think they need to consult Floscan
> on getting that perception updated!! I am usually less than .3 off at
> fillups, could be user error as well since I say 60 gallons and there may be
> 59.X, but it is pretty consistent and minor.
> My point is that it works just fine for me in the tunnel. It probably is
> easier to install in the spider/ servo area as the tunnel setup was a bear
> for me from the boost pump, but it works and I dont see a need to move it..
> With all that said- If I was doing this again- I would seriously consider
> putting it up front by the servo/spider.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Leikam
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 9:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
> damper
>
>
> Definitely put it between the servo and spider.
> I talked directly with Flo-Scan about this and they said the worst place is
> between the the two fuel pumps. They said the best would be before the
> valve. (We can't do this obviously.)
> I installed mine just in front of the servo (or after as flow goes,) with a
> somewhat floating, flexible mount on the air box. I'm within a 1/2 gallon
> on every fill.
> Use flexible hose, do not make it rigid.
>
> Dave Leikam
> N89DA
>
> On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:22 AM, g.combs wrote:
>
> >
> > I ditto Robins remarks. Why take the chance of having a problem and then
> > have to move it. PIREP from everyone
> > Having it FWF is positive. 400 hrs and
> > Great results for myself. Soft mount it up front and be a happy.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:16 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The beauty of putting the cube in the tunnel is that you get to remove &
> >> relocate it once you are flying. Talk about enjoyable! I did as the plans
> >> describe and had 2-3 gph fluctuations including 800 RPM taxi showing 12
> >> GPH... sometimes. Other times it would read 4.3 GPH. Want another
> >> indication just flip on your boost pump and you get a whole different
> >> reading. No way for me to balance injectors w/o accurate fuel flow. I
> >> relocated FWF (I like Sean's install in archives) and all issues went
> >> away. I still get the occasional 0.4 GPH fluctuations but that is because
> >> I don't have the ideal length flow in/out of the cube.
> >> I only have read one pirep on the damper and it was No Joy.
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
> >> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:04 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
> >> damper
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard
> >> location) vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about
> >> experience with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would
> >> solve the problems the tunnel location has?
> >>
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> >> Read this topic online here:
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> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401718#401718
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| Subject: | Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
It is an unusual installation for a Lycoming fuel injected engine to
have a fuel return line. Bendix FI does not. AF has a purge line which
may or may not return to the tank, but is only used for shutdown, there
is no return when engine is running. Only Continental injection or
systems modeled after it have an active return line, and there are
sensors to account for that fuel, but not something that most RV-10
operations need to be concerned with.
On 6/1/2013 9:56 PM, ibspud@roadrunner.com wrote:
>
> Since, on injected engines, there is a fuel return line that goes from the pump
back to the fuel selector valve, does the Floscan sender report higher flue
flow than is actually used by the engine? Or is there only a small amount of
fuel returned via that bypass route?
> Albert Gardner
> N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation damper |
In the tunnel my cube absolutely reported more than consumed.
Robin
ibspud@roadrunner.com wrote:
Since, on injected engines, there is a fuel return line that goes from the pump
back to the fuel selector valve, does the Floscan sender report higher flue flow
than is actually used by the engine? Or is there only a small amount of fuel
returned via that bypass route?
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
---- Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
>
> The flip side is Dynon does tell one (pg7-41) "It is common to place the
> sender downstream of any auxiliary electric boost pumps but upstream of the
> engine driven fuel pump." as does Vans. I think they need to consult Floscan
> on getting that perception updated!! I am usually less than .3 off at
> fillups, could be user error as well since I say 60 gallons and there may be
> 59.X, but it is pretty consistent and minor.
> My point is that it works just fine for me in the tunnel. It probably is
> easier to install in the spider/ servo area as the tunnel setup was a bear
> for me from the boost pump, but it works and I dont see a need to move it..
> With all that said- If I was doing this again- I would seriously consider
> putting it up front by the servo/spider.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Leikam
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 9:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
> damper
>
>
> Definitely put it between the servo and spider.
> I talked directly with Flo-Scan about this and they said the worst place is
> between the the two fuel pumps. They said the best would be before the
> valve. (We can't do this obviously.)
> I installed mine just in front of the servo (or after as flow goes,) with a
> somewhat floating, flexible mount on the air box. I'm within a 1/2 gallon
> on every fill.
> Use flexible hose, do not make it rigid.
>
> Dave Leikam
> N89DA
>
> On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:22 AM, g.combs wrote:
>
> >
> > I ditto Robins remarks. Why take the chance of having a problem and then
> > have to move it. PIREP from everyone
> > Having it FWF is positive. 400 hrs and
> > Great results for myself. Soft mount it up front and be a happy.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jun 1, 2013, at 3:16 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The beauty of putting the cube in the tunnel is that you get to remove &
> >> relocate it once you are flying. Talk about enjoyable! I did as the plans
> >> describe and had 2-3 gph fluctuations including 800 RPM taxi showing 12
> >> GPH... sometimes. Other times it would read 4.3 GPH. Want another
> >> indication just flip on your boost pump and you get a whole different
> >> reading. No way for me to balance injectors w/o accurate fuel flow. I
> >> relocated FWF (I like Sean's install in archives) and all issues went
> >> away. I still get the occasional 0.4 GPH fluctuations but that is because
> >> I don't have the ideal length flow in/out of the cube.
> >> I only have read one pirep on the damper and it was No Joy.
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob88
> >> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:04 PM
> >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV10-List: Floscan location and Matronics fuel line pulsation
> >> damper
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm trying to decide whether to place the floscan in the tunnel (standard
> >> location) vs engine compartment. Anyone have strong opinion? What about
> >> experience with the Matronics pulsation damper which seems like it would
> >> solve the problems the tunnel location has?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401718#401718
> >>
> >>
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