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| Subject: | Re: Quick Build Fuselage Advice |
Some thoughts from a 2011 completion and 300 hours later.
On 6/3/2013 11:42 PM, Ed Kranz wrote:
> As for figuring out what you need to get when, I've just been doing a
> lot of reading of other's build logs. Some thing that you'll need to
> figure out coming up soon are:
> -- Where you're going to route conduit to the rear
I went with the Vans wiring kit routing hardware to run fat power wires
and some other lines. It has a few brackets and and clamp locations. I
did not buy or use the Vans wiring kit or configuration, just used the
plans to mimic their routing and order a few select pieces (plus some
access hatches and avionic mounts for the tail). Then, I ran 2 empty
conduits (Van's material) for running all the avionics stuff that were
going to be finalized after the floor was closed. 3 empty conduits is
even better. This has all worked very well.
> -- Antenna choices if you're going to mount them on the belly
I had some churn around antenna choices. Ultimately I found that with
one comm antenna installed under the floor before the floor is closed
up, additional antennas could be added after completion (e.g.
transponder, another comm under the seat, ADS-B and ELT stuff is all in
the tailcone and remains accessible (see desirability of 3rd conduit))
> -- Whether or not you want access panels for your step bolts
> -- Fuel Pump
> -- Fuel Valve
> -- Hard line or flexible line for fuel and brakes
I did it exactly per Vans plus Andair mods. Still doing fine at
300hours on a rough field (think brake lines). You don't have to learn
to bend aluminum tubing if you get the flexible lines I guess. I
learned but have been unable to transfer the skills to much of anything
else.
>
> Still many more decisions to come!
The decisions are the real joy of the project. not withstanding that
Vans per the plans works too. "Less is more" applies as does "but Mama,
that's where the fun is"
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Dave Fritzsche (Building)
> <dfritz@bpgsim.com <mailto:dfritz@bpgsim.com>> wrote:
>
> <dfritz@bpgsim.com <mailto:dfritz@bpgsim.com>>
>
> I am starting on my quick build fuselage trying to discover what
> has been done and what is left to do. I have removed the floor
> panels, except for the front panels, and found only two washers.
> I think I will inspect under the front floor panels using an
> inspection camera. The heat vent tee, VA-175, in mid fuselage
> points to the rear of the fuselage, not up as shown in the plans.
> I suspect that needs changing. There is an extra fuel valve
> mount, F-1048C1, taped to the installed mount stating that the
> mount is installed inverted and needs to be changed. I am
> installing an Andair valve and from reading Tim's pages I suspect
> that I will need to fabricate and bracket so I will need to simply
> remove the current one. Insulation seems something that needs
> addressing fairly soon. Insulation for the firewall and the
> tunnel seems to make sense. I am wondering what insulating the
> floor would gain as the noise comes from in front of the firewall,
> not below the fuselage. At the risk of starting an insulation
> war, what insulation would you recommend? I know Tim mentioned
> Flightline Interiors.
>
I have a Flightline interior which probably deadens some sound. We like
it because it looks nice and works well. Otherwise we depend on Bose
(or your favorite ANL device). I put some low tech material on the back
of the firewall, don't know if it does anything. You don't need to
insulate in my opinion. A painted interior and good ANL headsets would
seem to do the trick. It's up to you where you want to spend your time.
>
>
> There appears to be a lot of extras that need to be procured to
> finish the plane and at this point in time the issues seem to be
> ones of timing the procurement and installations so that something
> that has been done does not need to be undone to install an item.
> Looking at the jig saw puzzle and trying to see all the pieces and
> how they fit together.
>
> Dave
>
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