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1. 04:07 AM - iPad I For Sale (Russell Daves)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: iPad I For Sale (JimVillani)
3. 06:32 AM - Things needed for the build (RichGurr)
4. 06:35 AM - Re: iPad I For Sale (JimVillani)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Things needed for the build (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:18 AM - Re: Things needed for the build (tsts4)
7. 07:34 AM - Re: Things needed for the build (Rob Kermanj)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Things needed for the build (Kelly McMullen)
9. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: Things needed for the build (Roger Standley)
10. 09:03 AM - Fw: Re: Things needed for the build (Dave Fritzsche (Building))
11. 12:55 PM - 33 hours with a 1-year-old (Rob Kochman)
12. 02:29 PM - Re: 33 hours with a 1-year-old (Robin Marks)
13. 02:54 PM - Re: 2013 RV-10 Airventure Group Camping (eison)
14. 03:16 PM - Re: NAS517-5-9 Countersink Still Making The Rounds? ()
15. 04:09 PM - Re: 33 hours with a 1-year-old (Tim Olson)
16. 08:56 PM - G3x Autopilot & Accessories (Robin Marks)
17. 09:36 PM - Re: G3x Autopilot & Accessories (PlaneAround,LLC)
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iPad 1 64GB with GPS & wiFi in near perfect condition and leather case for
sale: $250.00 including Express Mail Shipping to US.
FltPlan.Com with maps and approach plates installed. I plan on upgrading to
an iPad mini when sold.
__________________
Russ Daves
Lubbock, TX
N710RV - RV-10 Flying
N65RV - RV-6A Sold
N686RV - RV-6A FWF Rebuild & N number change
N742PZ - RV-8 Co-Builder Sold
N-867RV -RV-7 Finish Kit
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SOLD.
Call or Email me ASAP.
Jim Villani
Cell: (702) 379 5524
Fax: (702) 946-1185
Email: <mailto:Jim@JimVillani.com> Jim@Sold702.com
N10KQ
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: iPad I For Sale
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iPad 1 64GB with GPS & wiFi in near perfect condition and leather case for
sale: $250.00 including Express Mail Shipping to US.
FltPlan.Com with maps and approach plates installed. I plan on upgrading to
an iPad mini when sold.
__________________
Russ Daves
Lubbock, TX
N710RV - RV-10 Flying
N65RV - RV-6A Sold
N686RV - RV-6A FWF Rebuild & N number change
N742PZ - RV-8 Co-Builder Sold
N-867RV -RV-7 Finish Kit
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Subject: | Things needed for the build |
I have my RV 10 fast build kit set for delivery in August. My wife and I will
be flying to Osh and camping in the North 40 for a week to take a few
courses and shop for needed items. I want to make a list of tools and things that
I should get while there. I will have the complete kit minus the finish kit.
I have a shop with all the basic mechanic tools, for working on cars and things.
Any recommendations . Thanks
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Russ,
I mis read that,
Was that an I-Pad 1 or 1 I-Pad?
If it was a 1 Sorry I cannot use it.
Jim Villani
Cell: (702) 379 5524
Fax: (702) 946-1185
Email: <mailto:Jim@JimVillani.com> Jim@Sold702.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: iPad I For Sale
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iPad 1 64GB with GPS & wiFi in near perfect condition and leather case for
sale: $250.00 including Express Mail Shipping to US.
FltPlan.Com with maps and approach plates installed. I plan on upgrading to
an iPad mini when sold.
__________________
Russ Daves
Lubbock, TX
N710RV - RV-10 Flying
N65RV - RV-6A Sold
N686RV - RV-6A FWF Rebuild & N number change
N742PZ - RV-8 Co-Builder Sold
N-867RV -RV-7 Finish Kit
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Subject: | Re: Things needed for the build |
All the good tool shops offer "RV Tool Kits". They publish a list of tools.
I sort of remember Vans having a list of tools needed. Most of them will
work with you for adding or deleting as you need. Their kits are
substantial discount over buying separately.
Avery Tools http://www.averytools.com/
Cleaveland Tools http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/
Isham Tools http://www.planetools.com/
I'm probably forgetting others with kits.
Other sources, Brown Tools, The Yard, Aircraft Tool Supply, US Aircraft
Tools.
You will need more clecos (3/32 and 1/8") than anyone offers in the kits,
especially up to point where tail and fuselage are joined. You would find a
complete 0-60 numbered drill set from Harbor Freight useful for the
occasional times you need a size that is not in any of the kits.
After that you won't need that many. I'm sure that some builders would be
happy to unload some clecos. Some of us have a hard time getting rid of any
tools, long after they are no longer needed.
All of the kits will have a generic 3/8" air drill, preferably with a
keyless chuck.
For the majority of drilling you don't need the size or weight of a 3/8"
drill, and most of the generics don't have a light pull, easy to control
trigger. I didn't upgrade until after developing trigger finger syndrome on
my middle finger.
http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=7300R is a relatively low
cost, light wt Chicago Pneumatics drill. Excellent trigger. While I prefer
a keyless chuck, it would add weight and cost, and the vast majority of
your drilling will be either 3/32 or 1/8" (#30().
Oh, also consider getting a few chucking reamers. Specifically #41 and
#30. #41 is closer to 3/32 than #40, and dimpling enlarges the hole
anyway, so you get better rivet fit, and you can just ream all the
prepunched holes without even using drill bit. A reamed hole needs less
deburring, is rounder, etc.
http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=15365
I'm sure others will offer more suggestions.
If you haven't found some of the excellent builder websites, start with Tim
Olson's
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/index.html
He has links to others.
Kelly
40866
90% done, 90% to finish
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:31 AM, RichGurr <carriageco@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I have my RV 10 fast build kit set for delivery in August. My wife and I
> will
> be flying to Osh and camping in the North 40 for a week to take a few
> courses and shop for needed items. I want to make a list of tools and
> things that I should get while there. I will have the complete kit minus
> the finish kit.
> I have a shop with all the basic mechanic tools, for working on cars and
> things. Any recommendations . Thanks
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403791#403791
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Things needed for the build |
Take a look at the Avery or Cleaveland RV toolkits on their websites and subtract
out the things you already have.
Extras I purchased over time:
tungsten bucking bar (best tool purchase I made)
pneumatic squeezer
additional 300 or so 3/32 (silver) clecos
extra #30 & #40 bits
long #10 & #12 bits
long backrivet set
.2495 & .311 reamers
odd ball bits (#27, #28, #31)
tube flaring tool
tube bending tool
tank 3/32 dimple dies
safety wire pliers
I already had a Dremel, but I highly recommend one. For a hand squeezer, I also
recommend Cleaveland's "Main Squeeze" with at least a 3" yoke and a longeron
yoke.
--------
Todd Stovall
aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, Purple Pilots, VAF, and RVairspace
RV-10 N728TT
Empacone, Wings, Fuse, Finishing
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
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Subject: | Re: Things needed for the build |
Would not build a van plane without pneumatic squeezer. I say it is impossible
to build without it.
Do not archive.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:31 AM, "RichGurr" <carriageco@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> I have my RV 10 fast build kit set for delivery in August. My wife and I will
> be flying to Osh and camping in the North 40 for a week to take a few
> courses and shop for needed items. I want to make a list of tools and things
that I should get while there. I will have the complete kit minus the finish
kit.
> I have a shop with all the basic mechanic tools, for working on cars and things.
Any recommendations . Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403791#403791
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Things needed for the build |
Yes, definitely a tungsten bucking bar. I use mine at least 90% of the time
and all the rest occasionally.
Pneumatic and hand squeezer.
DRDT=2 Dimpler is very useful and much faster than a hammer style C-Frame.
He won't need tank dimple dies if getting quick build wings.
Long and offset backrivet set are handy, wouldn't consider essential.
I also use http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=635 round bucking
bar for back riveting where it isn't easy to use back rivet plate.
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:18 AM, tsts4 <tsts4@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Take a look at the Avery or Cleaveland RV toolkits on their websites and
> subtract out the things you already have.
>
> Extras I purchased over time:
> tungsten bucking bar (best tool purchase I made)
> pneumatic squeezer
> additional 300 or so 3/32 (silver) clecos
> extra #30 & #40 bits
> long #10 & #12 bits
> long backrivet set
> .2495 & .311 reamers
> odd ball bits (#27, #28, #31)
> tube flaring tool
> tube bending tool
> tank 3/32 dimple dies
> safety wire pliers
>
> I already had a Dremel, but I highly recommend one. For a hand squeezer,
> I also recommend Cleaveland's "Main Squeeze" with at least a 3" yoke and a
> longeron yoke.
>
> --------
> Todd Stovall
> aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, Purple Pilots, VAF, and RVairspace
> RV-10 N728TT
> Empacone, Wings, Fuse, Finishing
> www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403798#403798
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Things needed for the build |
I have a DRDT=2 Dimpler for sale if anyone is interested.
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Things needed for the build
From: apilot2@gmail.com
Yes=2C definitely a tungsten bucking bar. I use mine at least 90% of the ti
me and all the rest occasionally.
Pneumatic and hand squeezer.
DRDT=2 Dimpler is very useful and much faster than a hammer style C-Frame
.
He won't need tank dimple dies if getting quick build wings.
Long and offset backrivet set are handy=2C wouldn't consider essential.
I also use http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=635 round buckin
g bar for back riveting where it isn't easy to use back rivet plate.
On Tue=2C Jul 2=2C 2013 at 7:18 AM=2C tsts4 <tsts4@verizon.net> wrote:
Take a look at the Avery or Cleaveland RV toolkits on their websites and su
btract out the things you already have.
Extras I purchased over time:
tungsten bucking bar (best tool purchase I made)
pneumatic squeezer
additional 300 or so 3/32 (silver) clecos
extra #30 & #40 bits
long #10 & #12 bits
long backrivet set
.2495 & .311 reamers
odd ball bits (#27=2C #28=2C #31)
tube flaring tool
tube bending tool
tank 3/32 dimple dies
safety wire pliers
I already had a Dremel=2C but I highly recommend one. For a hand squeezer
=2C I also recommend Cleaveland's "Main Squeeze" with at least a 3" yoke an
d a longeron yoke.
--------
Todd Stovall
aka Auburntsts on EAA=2C AOPA=2C Purple Pilots=2C VAF=2C and RVairspace
RV-10 N728TT
Empacone=2C Wings=2C Fuse=2C Finishing
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
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Subject: | Re: Things needed for the build |
I would add my vote for the Cleveland angle drill kit and second the
recommendation for the Cleveland hand squeezer. While I have been happy
with my tools from Avery (I also have some from Cleveland), I wish I had
purchased both of these items from Cleveland. The squeezer is easier to
use and the angle drill kit head is much smaller and will fit in tighter
places.
Dave Fritzsche
RV-10 N965DF
Fuselage, Finishing
Take a look at the Avery or Cleaveland RV toolkits on their websites and subtract
out the things you already have.
Extras I purchased over time:
tungsten bucking bar (best tool purchase I made)
pneumatic squeezer
additional 300 or so 3/32 (silver) clecos
extra #30 & #40 bits
long #10 & #12 bits
long backrivet set
.2495 & .311 reamers
odd ball bits (#27, #28, #31)
tube flaring tool
tube bending tool
tank 3/32 dimple dies
safety wire pliers
I already had a Dremel, but I highly recommend one. For a hand squeezer, I also
recommend Cleaveland's "Main Squeeze" with at least a 3" yoke and a longeron
yoke.
--------
Todd Stovall
aka Auburntsts on EAA, AOPA, Purple Pilots, VAF, and RVairspace
RV-10 N728TT
Empacone, Wings, Fuse, Finishing
www.mykitlog.com/auburntsts
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=403798#403798
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Subject: | 33 hours with a 1-year-old |
(I also posted this on VAF)
A few weeks ago we completed a 2-week trip in our RV-10, covering 5000+
miles in 33 hours with our 1-year-old boy. I thought we were a little crazy
to try it, but it worked out really well. I did a write-up on our site:
http://kochman.net/N819K/?p=1437
As always, I have to thank my wife for suggesting the RV-10 instead of the
-7. What an amazing family cross-country machine.
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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Subject: | 33 hours with a 1-year-old |
Rob,
Nice write up and great photos. What camera were you using? Some of the pho
tos have excellent color & tone.
Robin
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: 33 hours with a 1-year-old
(I also posted this on VAF)
A few weeks ago we completed a 2-week trip in our RV-10, covering 5000+ mil
es in 33 hours with our 1-year-old boy. I thought we were a little crazy to
try it, but it worked out really well. I did a write-up on our site:
http://kochman.net/N819K/?p=1437
As always, I have to thank my wife for suggesting the RV-10 instead of the
-7. What an amazing family cross-country machine.
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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Subject: | Re: 2013 RV-10 Airventure Group Camping |
I am in the final planning stages for Osh. I am camping with the group and having
an RV dropped off on Friday. I am planning on flying in Saturday late morning.
I have one open item, I have rented from United Rentals/RSC in Oshkosh a generator
in order to have a nice cool place to hang out in the middle of the day.
However, the RV place isn't allowed to pick up generators, and united Rentals
wants more to pick up and drop off than the cost of the rental. Additionally,
they aren't open on the weekends.....
Is anyone driving in on Friday the 26th that wouldn't mind grabbing a generator
for me? Failing that, Monday?
If all else fails, we can go powerless or pay the extra fee. Keeping the wife
and kid happy is important right????
You can email me at Eison1969 at yahoo dot com
Thanks
Eric Ison
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Eric Ison
RV 10 #40764
N984ED (reserved)
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Subject: | Re: NAS517-5-9 Countersink Still Making The Rounds? |
Hey Sean,
The traveling countersink is back home with me. I was waiting to see if
anyone else was ready for it, and forgot to check with you ... if you still
need it, get me your address and I'll get it out to you.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Stephens
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: NAS517-5-9 Countersink Still Making The Rounds?
Is the cabin top seat belt NAS517-5-9 countersink still making the
rounds? If so, can I be put on the list?
-Sean #40303 (sand, fill, rinse, repeat...)
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Subject: | Re: 33 hours with a 1-year-old |
Rob, Great write-up. It really is fun traveling with kids.
Some things get easier, and some get harder, as they grow,
but it's always fun to have them along.
I agree fully about the full-service FBO's....whenever I'm
going to get stuck or want to have a super simple stay over,
I go for a nice FBO. Then you let them do the work of arranging
the car, hotel, pointing you to food, and it makes it so easy.
Yeah, you throw away $20, or $50, or even sometimes more, but
the service they provide is really nice. I keep track of those
nice stops in the bigger cities, and it's comforting to know you
can almost always count on them being open.
Have fun with your travels!
Tim
do not archive
On 7/2/2013 2:54 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
> (I also posted this on VAF)
>
> A few weeks ago we completed a 2-week trip in our RV-10, covering 5000+
> miles in 33 hours with our 1-year-old boy. I thought we were a little
> crazy to try it, but it worked out really well. I did a write-up on our
> site:
> http://kochman.net/N819K/?p=1437
>
> As always, I have to thank my wife for suggesting the RV-10 instead of
> the -7. What an amazing family cross-country machine.
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> Woodinville, WA
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
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Subject: | G3x Autopilot & Accessories |
Not sure everyone has seen the new Garmin G3x AP & servos but it looks like
they are kicking it into high gear with full G3x accessories. The AP is on
ly $750! Servos are also $750 ea.
Garmin is also offering a AOA Pitot & Heated AOA Pitot for $199 & $299 with
a regulated AOA Pitot coming. They also have a new back up ADAHRS.
Products
http://www.garmin.com/us/products/intheair/sport-aviation/prices
Here are some videos
http://www.garmin.com/us/products/intheair/sport-aviation/media/
[https://static.garmincdn.com/en/m/g/custom-pages/in-the-air/sport-aviation
/sf/gmc305.jpg]
[https://static.garmincdn.com/en/m/g/custom-pages/in-the-air/sport-aviation
/sf/gap26.jpg]
[https://static.garmincdn.com/en/m/g/custom-pages/in-the-air/sport-aviation
/sf/gsa28.jpg]
[https://static.garmincdn.com/en/m/g/custom-pages/in-the-air/sport-aviation
/sf/gsu25.jpg]
Robin
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Subject: | Re: G3x Autopilot & Accessories |
I was shocked how light everything is.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 2, 2013, at 21:55, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> Not sure everyone has seen the new Garmin G3x AP & servos but it looks lik
e they are kicking it into high gear with full G3x accessories. The AP is on
ly $750! Servos are also $750 ea.
> Garmin is also offering a AOA Pitot & Heated AOA Pitot for $199 & $299 wit
h a regulated AOA Pitot coming. They also have a new back up ADAHRS.
>
> Products
>
> http://www.garmin.com/us/products/intheair/sport-aviation/prices
>
> Here are some videos
>
> http://www.garmin.com/us/products/intheair/sport-aviation/media/
>
>
> <image002.jpg>
> <image004.jpg>
> <image006.jpg>
> <image008.jpg>
>
> Robin
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