---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/07/13: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:32 AM - Choosing the switches (Carlos Trigo) 2. 03:38 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (Bob Leffler) 3. 04:34 AM - Re: "Suitable" Release Agent for Prop Governor Gasket (Carl Froehlich) 4. 05:11 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (Jesse Saint) 5. 07:11 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (davidsoutpost@comcast.net) 6. 07:38 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (David Leikam) 7. 08:07 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (Dave Saylor) 8. 08:28 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (Don McDonald) 9. 09:45 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (Robin Marks) 10. 04:28 PM - Re: Choosing the switches (Bob-tcw) 11. 04:50 PM - Re: Choosing the switches (johngoodman) 12. 07:13 PM - Re: Choosing the switches (Robin Marks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:36 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Guys It's time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which ones are more popular between the RV-10 builders: For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or just 2 separate toggle switches? For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed switch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter switch? And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choice: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? Thanks for your opinions Carlos ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:46 AM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Choosing the switches I think there is too much customization and personal preference, that there really isn't a defacto popular choice. For example, for those of us that have Vertical Power units, all the switches are just logic switches and carry no real current. This means we can be a little more creative on which switches we use. For most of my switches I took the easy way out. It also means that the VP device controls the master and alternator functions. Since I have an Aerosport Products' instrument panel and I have a relationship with Aerosport Products (I manage the website for them), I went with Geoff's rocker switches. They work just fine. I did use the ACS keyed switch, since I only wanted to carry a single key for the ignition, doors, and baggage door. Almost all my switches are rockers. I have only one color coded switch, the rest are all black. I started to color coded them, but quickly realized all the same colors were grouped together. i.e. a bank of four all red. Since the banks of switches all have different functions, I used the physical placement to differentiate rather than color. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 5:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Guys It's time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which ones are more popular between the RV-10 builders: For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or just 2 separate toggle switches? For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed switch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter switch? And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choice: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? Thanks for your opinions Carlos ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:36 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Suitable" Release Agent for Prop Governor Gasket Tite Seal: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php?s=TITE+SEAL+NO.+55&x=0&y=0 It does not harden. One can will last a lifetime. Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:28 PM Subject: RV10-List: "Suitable" Release Agent for Prop Governor Gasket ah... the simple things can be so hard. I'm trying to install my PCU5000-X Prop Governor. The instructions call for a "suitable" release agent to be applied to the gasket. Any idea what that might be? Jeff Carpenter 40304 95/95 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Choosing the switches From: Jesse Saint I have usually installed simple toggle switches for most things, with the no rmal key switch for mags and starter. I also like separate toggle switches f or mags. For master and alt, I like to use a toggle switch for master and to put alt f ield on my avionics bus so it comes on with the avionics master. I use the K lixon pull able breakers so I can reset it if necessary. I prefer toggle switches because it is easier to add one after the panel is f inished by simply drilling a round hole. The classy rocker switches are very nice to look at, and I like the way they can be labeled right on the switch, but they are more expensive and harder t o add or remove. I recently worked on a plane that had all rocker switches ( the big black ones that were engraved with labels. There are 4-5 switches th at aren't used any more and if I remove them, there will be big holes in the panel. Just MHO. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:32 AM, "Carlos Trigo" wrote: > Guys > > It=99s time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which ones are more popular between the RV-10 builders: > > For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or jus t 2 separate toggle switches? > > For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed swi tch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter s witch? > > And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choi ce: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? > > Thanks for your opinions > Carlos > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:52 AM PST US From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Toggle switches for me also. I really like the look of the rock rack switch es but went with the toggles in the end for reasons others have already sta ted. David Clifford RV-10 Builder Howell, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Trigo" Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 5:32:15 AM Subject: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Guys It=99s time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which ones are more popular between the RV-10 builders: For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or just 2 separate toggle switches? For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed swit ch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter switch? And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choic e: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? Thanks for your opinions Carlos == ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:56 AM PST US From: David Leikam Subject: Re: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Classic toggles on my panel other than a standard keyed mag/start switch for a bit of security and large two position toggle for BATT and ALT. You can purchase a toggle almost anywhere in a pinch and silly simple to install, wire and operate. Dave Leikam On Jul 7, 2013, at 4:32 AM, Carlos Trigo wrote: > Guys > > It=92s time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which ones are more popular between the RV-10 builders: > > For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or just 2 separate toggle switches? > > For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed switch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter switch? > > And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choice: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? > > Thanks for your opinions > Carlos > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:53 AM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Choosing the switches I prefer the mags on toggles so if I want to clear the engine I can turn it with the ignition off. I used to have a separate position for the alternator field but now it comes on with the battery. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:39 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Especially for those with light 3 bladed props, having seperate switches for either mags or elec ignition, you can leave the ignition off until the blades get turning, then flip them on..... no kickpack or backfiring. Works everytime. Don McDonald 520 hours and loving every minute. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:22 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Choosing the switches RV-10 Build: [cid:image005.jpg@01CE7AF6.9CD74460] RV-8A Build [cid:image006.jpg@01CE7AF6.9CD74460] Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 2:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Guys It's time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which on es are more popular between the RV-10 builders: For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or just 2 separate toggle switches? For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed swit ch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter switch? And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choic e: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? Thanks for your opinions Carlos ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:28:13 PM PST US From: "Bob-tcw" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Choosing the switches I used the Aveo switches and had a few custom laser engraved. Bob Newman TCW Technologies, LLC. From: Robin Marks Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Choosing the switches RV-10 Build: RV-8A Build Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 2:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Guys It=99s time to choose the switches for the RV-10 panel, and I wonder which ones are more popular between the RV-10 builders: For the Master and ALT field, have you used the Cessna split rocker or just 2 separate toggle switches? For the magnetos and starter, did everybody use the ACS combined keyed switch, or is it better to use 2 toggles and one push-button momentary starter switch? And for the lights and other electrical equipment, which has been the choice: the classic rocker switches or the color coded toggle switches? 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