---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/09/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:54 AM - servos (Sandra & Rick) 2. 05:33 AM - Re: Choosing the switches (Carlos Trigo) 3. 09:42 AM - Re: Re: o-540 (Tim Farrell) 4. 10:32 AM - Re: Re: o-540 (Robin Marks) 5. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: o-540 (Bob Leffler) 6. 11:40 AM - Re: Re: o-540 (Rhonda Bewley) 7. 02:32 PM - Blocking heater vent outlets (Rob Kochman) 8. 05:25 PM - Looking for some tools (RichGurr) 9. 06:57 PM - Re: Blocking heater vent outlets (David Leikam) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:11 AM PST US From: "Sandra & Rick" Subject: RV10-List: servos Hi all, I posted an ad at http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=101646 selling my TT servos. Thx, Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:23 AM PST US From: "Carlos Trigo" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Choosing the switches Thank you all for your opinions, I=99m still undecided but I think I=99ll go for the toggles. Best Carlos ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 From: Tim Farrell Since Performance Engines has been brought up in this thread . . . Many have had great experiences with them, but the Lancair community has had some pretty serious safety issues come up. I personally have no facts, so I will not judge, but my opinion is that it should be disclosed that past customers have brought to light some issues with Continental engines. Below is a snippet from the Lancair Yahoo group from 2010 and more info can be found on LML (Lancair Mailing List). "There's been a lot of talk lately on other sites regarding the overhauled engines delivered by Performance Engines of La Vern, CA. There have been several total failures lately and a few others have had theirs torn down fo r inspection only to find unserviceable or out of tolerance parts installed. In one case, the engine case was cracked. This is causing many owners a lot of money and putting their lives at risk. The FAA is currently paying very close attention to PE." On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Albert Gardner wrot e: > Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 > compression and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on i t > I have put 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. > (I=92m not going to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs)**** > > Albert Gardner**** > > N991RV**** > > Yuma, AZ**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Don McDonald > *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540**** > > ** ** > > Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, > always pays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just > to keep up, and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if > you're carbeurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which > also means you burn more fuel. > A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel > burn between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do > the math, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that wou ld > cost you around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of t he > TBO, over $10,000!!!!!!!! > Don McDonald**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- *Aircrafters* 140 Aviation Way Watsonville CA, 95076 KWVI 831-722-9141 www.AircraftersLLC.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:41 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Hard to go wrong with Barrett unless you don't like to be pushed back in yo ur seat when you advance the throttle. :). Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Farrell Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Since Performance Engines has been brought up in this thread . . . Many ha ve had great experiences with them, but the Lancair community has had some pretty serious safety issues come up. I personally have no facts, so I wil l not judge, but my opinion is that it should be disclosed that past custom ers have brought to light some issues with Continental engines. Below is a snippet from the Lancair Yahoo group from 2010 and more info can be found on LML (Lancair Mailing List). "There's been a lot of talk lately on other sites regarding the overhauled engines delivered by Performance Engines of La Vern, CA. There have been several total failures lately and a few others have had theirs torn down fo r inspection only to find unserviceable or out of tolerance parts installed. In one case, the engine case was cracked. This is causing many owners a lot of money and putting their lives at risk. The FAA is currently paying very clo se attention to PE." On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Albert Gardner > wrote: Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 compress ion and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on it I have p ut 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. (I'm not go ing to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs) Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, always pays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just to keep up, and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if you're carbeurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which also mean s you burn more fuel. A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel bu rn between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do the math, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that would co st you around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of the T BO, over $10,000!!!!!!!! Don McDonald ________________________________ get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Aircrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville CA, 95076 KWVI 831-722-9141 www.AircraftersLLC.com ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 From: Bob Leffler I concur. I wish they were still selling new kits when I bought mine. I di d help facilitate getting a neighbor's engine overhauled by Barrett. Qualit y was second to none. You can't beat the support both Rhonda and Alan have g iven the RV-10 community. They've been known to hang out at the RV-10 hq at OSH. Given folks their pe rsonal cell numbers and taking calls during off hours. Help folks when ther e is no money in it for them. Hang out here and on VAF. Generally all arou nd good people that do their best to support the experimental community. Yo u can't ask for better support. Bob Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Robin Marks wrote: Hard to go wrong with Barrett unless you don=99t like to be pushed bac k in your seat when you advance the throttle. J. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Farrell Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Since Performance Engines has been brought up in this thread . . . Many hav e had great experiences with them, but the Lancair community has had some pr etty serious safety issues come up. I personally have no facts, so I will n ot judge, but my opinion is that it should be disclosed that past customers h ave brought to light some issues with Continental engines. Below is a snipp et from the Lancair Yahoo group from 2010 and more info can be found on LML ( Lancair Mailing List). "There's been a lot of talk lately on other sites regarding the overhauled engines delivered by Performance Engines of La Vern, CA. There have been several total failures lately and a few others have had theirs torn down for inspection only to find unserviceable or out of tolerance parts installed. I n one case, the engine case was cracked. This is causing many owners a lot of money and putting their lives at risk. The FAA is currently paying very clos e attention to PE." On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Albert Gardner wrot e: Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 compressi on and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on it I have put 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. (I=99m n ot going to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs) Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, always p ays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just to keep up , and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if you're car beurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which also means you burn more fuel. A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel bur n between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do the m ath, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that would cost y ou around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of the TBO, o ver $10,000!!!!!!!! Don McDonald get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Aircrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville CA, 95076 KWVI 831-722-9141 www.AircraftersLLC.com ============== V10-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p > tor?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ===== ========= bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p> tp://forums .matronics.com ============== bsp; - List Contr ibution Web Site - e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. butio n">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============ = No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com r> ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ========================== ======== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:40 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: o-540 From: "Rhonda Bewley" We hope to see you all at the RV gathering hosted by the beer fairy on Monday night at Osh. We'll be there with bells on! Rhonda Barrett-Bewley Barrett Precision Engines 2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. Tulsa, OK 74115 (918) 835-1089 phone (918) 835-1754 fax www.barrettprecisionengines.com ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 12:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 I concur. I wish they were still selling new kits when I bought mine. I did help facilitate getting a neighbor's engine overhauled by Barrett. Quality was second to none. You can't beat the support both Rhonda and Alan have given the RV-10 community. They've been known to hang out at the RV-10 hq at OSH. Given folks their personal cell numbers and taking calls during off hours. Help folks when there is no money in it for them. Hang out here and on VAF. Generally all around good people that do their best to support the experimental community. You can't ask for better support. Bob Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Robin Marks wrote: Hard to go wrong with Barrett unless you don't like to be pushed back in your seat when you advance the throttle. :-). Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Farrell Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Since Performance Engines has been brought up in this thread . . . Many have had great experiences with them, but the Lancair community has had some pretty serious safety issues come up. I personally have no facts, so I will not judge, but my opinion is that it should be disclosed that past customers have brought to light some issues with Continental engines. Below is a snippet from the Lancair Yahoo group from 2010 and more info can be found on LML (Lancair Mailing List). "There's been a lot of talk lately on other sites regarding the overhauled engines delivered by Performance Engines of La Vern, CA. There have been several total failures lately and a few others have had theirs torn down for inspection only to find unserviceable or out of tolerance parts installed. In one case, the engine case was cracked. This is causing many owners a lot of money and putting their lives at risk. The FAA is currently paying very close attention to PE." On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Albert Gardner wrote: Performance Engines out of La Verne, CA built my IO-540. With 10:1 compression and 1 Lightspeed they rated it at 310 HP. With 799 hours on it I have put 8003 gallons of 100LL in, just about exactly 10 GPH average. (I'm not going to tell my wife how much 8K gallons of gas costs) Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:27 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: o-540 Every RV'er that has ever gone with less hp or smaller displacement, always pays the price. They have to run a higher percentage of power just to keep up, and because of that they also end up burning more fuel. Also if you're carbeurated you have more difficulty running lean of peak, which also means you burn more fuel. A friend of mine with a new Mattituck, carbed 540 has an avg cruise fuel burn between 11 and 12 gph.... whereas I burn between 9.6 and 10.2.... do the math, I now have over 500 hours, at a 1+ gph more fuel burn, that would cost you around $2,800 in additional fuel cost..... so over the life of the TBO, over $10,000!!!!!!!! Don McDonald ________________________________ get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Aircrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville CA, 95076 KWVI 831-722-9141 www.AircraftersLLC.com ============== V10-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p> tor?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ============== bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p> tp://forums.matronics.com ============== bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - e> bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============== ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com r> ========= ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========= cs.com ========= matronics.com/contribution ========= ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:46 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Blocking heater vent outlets From: Rob Kochman My rear heater leaks--the door is bent, so even when it's closed, it still lets a decent amount of hot air through. As a temporary fix, does anyone see a problem with using aluminum tape to block the air outlets, by the rear passenger feet? I figure there will be no air flow, so no issue. Thanks... -Rob -- Rob Kochman RV-10 Flying since March 2011 Woodinville, WA http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:14 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Looking for some tools From: "RichGurr" My RV 10 is set for delivery in August. Im getting the shop in order and I would like to buy some used tools for the build. If you are tired of dust collecting on those tools you used for your build and you would like to get rid of them, send me a PM with your contact info, what you have to sell, or both. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404337#404337 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:51 PM PST US From: David Leikam Subject: Re: RV10-List: Blocking heater vent outlets Block the inlet in the engine compartment. Dave Leikam On Jul 9, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Rob Kochman wrote: > My rear heater leaks--the door is bent, so even when it's closed, it still lets a decent amount of hot air through. As a temporary fix, does anyone see a problem with using aluminum tape to block the air outlets, by the rear passenger feet? I figure there will be no air flow, so no issue. Thanks... > > -Rob > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 Flying since March 2011 > Woodinville, WA > http://kochman.net/N819K > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.