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1. 02:28 AM - Re: alodine (palark)
2. 03:41 AM - Re: USB Charger Adapter (Rob Kermanj)
3. 06:30 AM - Re: Fuel Filters in the wing roots or under seats? (speckter@comcast.net)
4. 07:38 AM - Re: USB Charger Adapter (Albert Gardner)
5. 08:58 AM - Re: USB Charger Adapter (Stein Bruch)
6. 10:12 AM - Re: USB Charger Adapter (John Jessen)
7. 10:12 AM - Ipad Mini PIREPs ? (Deems Davis)
8. 11:38 AM - Re: USB Charger Adapter (Stein Bruch)
9. 11:43 AM - Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? (Stein Bruch)
10. 12:10 PM - Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? (Deems Davis)
11. 12:59 PM - Re: USB Charger Adapter (Rob Kermanj)
12. 02:36 PM - Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? ()
13. 03:54 PM - Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? (Tim Olson)
14. 08:31 PM - Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? (Jim Berry)
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Patrick,
I am very interested in where you source your alodine and deoxidine. I am in Loxton
SA.
Roger
palark(at)tpg.com.au
[quote="rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com"]Bill,
I keep the alodine solution in a 20 litre container and top up the crystal concentration
when I notice the dip time is starting to get longer to achieve the
same level of coating.
I always prepare the parts by scrubbing them with a maroon 3M Scotchbrite pad in
a solution of 'Deoxidine' (a Henkel product), just scrub enough to get the shine
off the aluminium, then fresh water rinse and air dry before dipping in the
alodine solution.
I use a storage water heater overflow tray, which is about 1.5" deep & about 4'
in diameter to dip the large parts. The advantage of this tray is that it has
a plastic ball valve plumbed into the tray and allows me to easily decant the
solution back into the storage container for reuse. I use black plastic irrigation
fittings and pipe which attach to the ball valve. Can send you pictures.
For longer, slender parts, I've made up a long bath using 6" diameter PVC sewer
pipe with caps each end and another plastic ball valve fitted as described above.
I've cut the top 2" off the entire length of the pipe to allow you to sit the pipe
horizontally on an old pallet. Great for long parts and gives a solution depth
of about 4".
Please ensure that you read the Material Safety Data Sheet for the alodine more
so, as its toxic stuff.
I've seen guys also use wheelie bins as dip baths and lowering parts in with tie
wire and suspending them from some dowel placed across the bin opening. Doing
this means you'll need a lot of solution and the bin is very heavy to move.
I get away with 20 litres, which is stored when not required.
Yell out if you need any more info. Google the Henkel site for technical advice.
Warm regards from Oz.
Patrick
Adelaide, South Australia
On 08/02/2013, at 3:15 AM, "Billy Britton" wrote:
> A while back I recall a thread about alodine and where to get it. This
particular post I remember was about a powder form. I've searched aircraft
spruce and cannot find a powder form of alodine. Can anybody tell me where
I might find it? Also, Ive never done the alodine before. What prep is required
of the parts before using the alodine?
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> Thanks
> Bill
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Subject: | Re: USB Charger Adapter |
Albert,
Here is a product on Amazon that I have installed in my plane. It has 2 USBs and
it is a very clean installation. It does gradually charge the ipad in flight
with the display set on bright.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0082CXEI8/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> I installed a cigarette lighter outlet (now called courtesy outlet in my car
> owners manual) but all we use it for is to plug in an adapter with USB
> outlets in it. I'm thinking of replacing it with some USB ports mounted on
> the panel. I haven't found a device that mounts directly to the panel like
> the cig lighter outlet did but did find a 4 USB port adapter. Has anyone
> else run across what I'm looking for? I'm thinking 4 ports because now I
> plug in the Stratus, iPad, cell phone or music player. Here is a pic of the
> 4 port I found on the internet.
>
> Albert Gardner
> N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
>
> BTW, landed at Leadville (KLXV) 9927', DA 12,600' yesterday. It as well as
> Aspen were interesting landings. Aspen especially. Lightly loaded, 1/3 fuel,
> just me and about 77 temp as I recall, plane preformed well. Wonder how it
> would have been a gross?
>
> <USB Car Charger.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Filters in the wing roots or under seats? |
If you put a access panel in your tunnel then it is no big deal to remove t
he filter.=C2- You will find that the filter doesn't need cleaning after
the first year.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Kranz" <ed.kranz@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:50:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Filters in the wing roots or under seats?
I'm starting to lay out my fuel system, and I need to decide where I'm goin
g to place my fuel filter(s).
So far, my fuel system consists of an EFII boost pump and a Andair valve. T
he EFII pump came with two fuel filters (one to install and a spare), but I
'm thinking that it might be nice to run two fuel filters. First, it gives
me redundancy, and second, it should be easier to change them out if they a
ren't buried in the tunnel.
The con would be that I would need to drain the tank/tanks before changing
the filter as there wouldn't be a valve in between the filter and tank. But
even this might be a good thing as it would probably be a good idea to rem
ove the tank drains to fully check for contaminants from time to time.
Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
How about pictures of where people have mounted their filters?
Ed
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Subject: | USB Charger Adapter |
Rob: Do you know if both outlets are 2.1 amp or just one of them like many I
see. The description says "Max. Output Current: 2.1A" so I guess that means
both the iPad and the Stratus can't be charging at the same time. But I like
this idea and Monday I'm calling Stein concerning his offering as well.
Maybe install 1 or 2 of his and keep my cigarette lighter for an adaptor if
needed.
Albert Gardner
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
Albert,
Here is a product on Amazon that I have installed in my plane. It has 2
USBs and it is a very clean installation. It does gradually charge the ipad
in flight with the display set on bright.
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Subject: | USB Charger Adapter |
Good point, and I agree.which is why we stock both. Seems most people still
have a 12VDC receptacle in the plane even if they have the panel mount USB
port. As I said, though many of those things advertise "2.1A", the real
world usage of them and testing we've done shows that almost none of them
actually will output that, or at least not consitently. When you have a
regular iPad with the screen brightness up all the way running intensive
apps, the best most of them will do is either keep it floating or perhaps a
fraction of a charge. Lower the brightness or close some apps and they do
much better (or get a mini). I guess I'm saying that though the specs on a
number of units out there advertise certain amp ratings it's not always
true. That's why we lowered the "real world" rating of the one we sell; to
be realistic based on our testing. Either way I love having an iPad in the
cockpit, but I've been finding I (and many customers) like the Mini or
similar sized droid much better than the big tablets.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
Nice thing about using a panel-mounted cigarette lighter and a USB adapter,
rather than a panel-mounted USB adapter, is if the USB part breaks, you just
pop it out and put another one in.
-Rob
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
If you say it works I would never bet against that based on your history! My
history has never seen my ipad work on a outlet with a 2a fuse however. You
have always been different Stein. So no! I wont bet against you and your
word..ever. a losing proposal!
Thanks for trying however!! ;-)
Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: Stein Bruch
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
Care to place a friendly bet on that?! :)
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
President - SteinAir, Inc.
651-460-6955
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
with a 2a fuse, as seen in the picture, I guarantee it would not work on an
Ipad.
-----Original Message-----
From: William Greenley
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
--> <wgreenley@gmail.com>
His site describes this as 1.5A, which I do not think is enough to charge an
iPad.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
Here are a couple of pics
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Subject: | Re: USB Charger Adapter |
Stein, I don't want to derail the topic, but could you give a brief summary w
hy the mini iPad preference over the full? Is it just the size, or is it so
mething more?
Thanks,
John J
On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:58 AM, "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> wrote:
> Good point, and I agreewhich is why we stock both. Seems most pe
ople still have a 12VDC receptacle in the plane even if they have the panel m
ount USB port. As I said, though many of those things advertise =9C2.
1A=9D, the real world usage of them and testing we=99ve done sho
ws that almost none of them actually will output that, or at least not consi
tently. When you have a regular iPad with the screen brightness up all the w
ay running intensive apps, the best most of them will do is either keep it f
loating or perhaps a fraction of a charge. Lower the brightness or close so
me apps and they do much better (or get a mini). I guess I=99m saying
that though the specs on a number of units out there advertise certain amp r
atings it=99s not always true. That=99s why we lowered the
=9Creal world=9D rating of the one we sell; to be realistic based on o
ur testing. Either way I love having an iPad in the cockpit, but I=99
ve been finding I (and many customers) like the Mini or similar sized droid m
uch better than the big tablets.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:06 PM
> To: rv10-list
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
>
> Nice thing about using a panel-mounted cigarette lighter and a USB adapter
, rather than a panel-mounted USB adapter, is if the USB part breaks, you ju
st pop it out and put another one in.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer@live.com> wrote:
>
> If you say it works I would never bet against that based on your history! M
y history has never seen my ipad work on a outlet with a 2a fuse however. Yo
u have always been different Stein. So no! I wont bet against you and your w
ord..ever. a losing proposal!
> Thanks for trying however!! ;-)
> Pascal
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Stein Bruch
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:14 PM
>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
>
>
> Care to place a friendly bet on that?! :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stein Bruch
> President - SteinAir, Inc.
> 651-460-6955
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
>
>
> with a 2a fuse, as seen in the picture, I guarantee it would not work on a
n
> Ipad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Greenley
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:53 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
>
> --> <wgreenley@gmail.com>
>
> His site describes this as 1.5A, which I do not think is enough to charge a
n
> iPad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5:40 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
>
> Here are a couple of pics
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Subject: | Ipad Mini PIREPs ? |
I like the form factor of the mini as an 'in-cockpit' device, I was about
to buy one, But a conversation I had with a pilot at the airport said he
was extremely disappointed with it's screen readability. In his eyes the
screen wasn't nearly bright enough for in-cockpit use. I haven't compared
the NIT rating of each,
Anybody have any real experience they'd like to share?
Deems
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Subject: | USB Charger Adapter |
I see this similar to what Deems just asked in another thread, but
I=99ll reply here. I find I like the mini as much or more than
the big one because it=99s literally half the weight, but about
2/3 the screen sizeand surprisingly almost exactly the
size/shape of a standard plate. Also, arguments about which one is more
readable is a bit of a dubious discussion because to be blunt, all of
them (apple or droids) pretty much suck in direct sunlight no matter
which screen protector you use (though there are some that are FAR
superior to others for reflectivity). In something like an RV10, both
of them seem pretty usable to me depending on the various lighting
conditions. I just find the smaller one easier to stow, to hold, to
use, and all around easier to travel with regarding small planes. That
said, I love the larger one for normal daily use (emails, videos,
etc..). Both are good units, just seems that the smaller one is the one
I gravitate to in the actual planes and I=99ve found more and more
pilots going the same way. If I give them both to someone to use with
the same apps on them and they spend time with both, most will come back
liking the smaller one in the smaller planes that we normally fly (yes
the RV10 is larger, but still a =9Csmall=9D plane).
I would get the form factor you like and not worry too terribly much
about nits, resolution, etc.. As I said, they ALL are poor in direct
sunlight and none of them are going to look like a 696 (so if you are
expecting them to look like that in the sun based on some pictures in a
magazine ad you WILL be disappointed); but that=99s not what we
mostly use them for anyway. Even some of the more reasonably priced
droid tablets seem to work pretty well, though my experience is that he
apps running on that OS aren=99t quite as polished and as stable
as the same app running on iOS (at least for WingX, ForeFligth and
Garmin Pilot). Tim Olson would also be a good one for advice on this,
as he=99s FAR more geeky than I am when it comes to the bits/bytes
of these things and has superior experience in using them for longer
periods of time and on trips in the cockpit than I do. J
That=99s just my 2 cents, but everyone has their own opinions
based on their own experiences, needs, budget, etc..
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
Stein, I don't want to derail the topic, but could you give a brief
summary why the mini iPad preference over the full? Is it just the
size, or is it something more?
Thanks,
John J
On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:58 AM, "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> wrote:
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Subject: | Ipad Mini PIREPs ? |
Hi Deems,
As I mentioned in the other thread, I think you'll find that any/all of the
consumer grade tablets will be disappointing in direct sunlight as compared
to an aviation grade unit like a 696 or something. Anti-glare screen
protectors go a long way, but still they are in a different league. If you
go into this experience knowing that even the "best" of the consumer tablets
are still poor in direct sunlight, then you'll be fine. But, if anyone
tells you that certain ones are so much better in comparison, then you'll
likely find that no matter which one you buy it'll still seem pretty meager
in direct sun. I say go get a tablet and don't look back - you WILL fall in
love with the thing after you play around with it for awhile; whether you
use Garmin Pilot (my new fav), Foreflight, or WingX, any of them are a
terrific addition to your flight bag.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Ipad Mini PIREPs ?
I like the form factor of the mini as an 'in-cockpit' device, I was about to
buy one, But a conversation I had with a pilot at the airport said he was
extremely disappointed with it's screen readability. In his eyes the screen
wasn't nearly bright enough for in-cockpit use. I haven't compared the NIT
rating of each,
Anybody have any real experience they'd like to share?
Deems
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Subject: | Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? |
Thanks Stein, I've been flying with an Ipad w/glareshield ever since
ForeFlight was available. I guess I should have asked: is the mini
better/worse/same as the full size ipad wrt readability?
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Stein Bruch <stein@steinair.com> wrote:
> Hi Deems,****
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> ** **
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> As I mentioned in the other thread, I think you=92ll find that any/all of
> the consumer grade tablets will be disappointing in direct sunlight as
> compared to an aviation grade unit like a 696 or something. Anti-glare
> screen protectors go a long way, but still they are in a different league
.
> If you go into this experience knowing that even the =93best=94 of the co
nsumer
> tablets are still poor in direct sunlight, then you=92ll be fine. But, i
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> anyone tells you that certain ones are so much better in comparison, then
> you=92ll likely find that no matter which one you buy it=92ll still seem
pretty
> meager in direct sun. I say go get a tablet and don=92t look back ' yo
u WILL
> fall in love with the thing after you play around with it for awhile;
> whether you use Garmin Pilot (my new fav), Foreflight, or WingX, any of
> them are a terrific addition to your flight bag.****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers,****
>
> Stein ****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Deems Davis
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:12 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Ipad Mini PIREPs ?****
>
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> I like the form factor of the mini as an 'in-cockpit' device, I was about
> to buy one, But a conversation I had with a pilot at the airport said he
> was extremely disappointed with it's screen readability. In his eyes the
> screen wasn't nearly bright enough for in-cockpit use. I haven't compared
> the NIT rating of each,****
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Subject: | Re: USB Charger Adapter |
I don't know if both have the same rating. I have however plugged my iPhone and
ipad at the same time and they both charge fine. I did not keep the paperwork
so I can't even look it up. But I did a test to be sure it worked before cutting
the panel.
One thing I like about mine is the you can remove the trim and just have a small
round plug for a clean installation.
Don't expect fast charging but it will better than keep up with consumption.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:38 AM, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> Rob: Do you know if both outlets are 2.1 amp or just one of them like many I
> see. The description says "Max. Output Current: 2.1A" so I guess that means
> both the iPad and the Stratus can't be charging at the same time. But I like
> this idea and Monday I'm calling Stein concerning his offering as well.
> Maybe install 1 or 2 of his and keep my cigarette lighter for an adaptor if
> needed.
> Albert Gardner
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 3:40 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: USB Charger Adapter
>
>
> Albert,
>
> Here is a product on Amazon that I have installed in my plane. It has 2
> USBs and it is a very clean installation. It does gradually charge the ipad
> in flight with the display set on bright.
>
> do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? |
I=99d love any suggestions for a good anti-glare screen
protector...
From: Stein Bruch
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ipad Mini PIREPs ?
Hi Deems,
As I mentioned in the other thread, I think you=99ll find that
any/all of the consumer grade tablets will be disappointing in direct
sunlight as compared to an aviation grade unit like a 696 or something.
Anti-glare screen protectors go a long way, but still they are in a
different league. If you go into this experience knowing that even the
=9Cbest=9D of the consumer tablets are still poor in direct
sunlight, then you=99ll be fine. But, if anyone tells you that
certain ones are so much better in comparison, then you=99ll
likely find that no matter which one you buy it=99ll still seem
pretty meager in direct sun. I say go get a tablet and don=99t
look back =93 you WILL fall in love with the thing after you play
around with it for awhile; whether you use Garmin Pilot (my new fav),
Foreflight, or WingX, any of them are a terrific addition to your flight
bag.
Cheers,
Stein
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Ipad Mini PIREPs ?
I like the form factor of the mini as an 'in-cockpit' device, I was
about to buy one, But a conversation I had with a pilot at the airport
said he was extremely disappointed with it's screen readability. In his
eyes the screen wasn't nearly bright enough for in-cockpit use. I
haven't compared the NIT rating of each,
Anybody have any real experience they'd like to share?
Deems
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Subject: | Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? |
Brando anti-glare. I buy them for ever i-device I have and have bought doze
ns for me and others at work.
On Jul 13, 2013, at 4:35 PM, <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
> I=99d love any suggestions for a good anti-glare screen protector...
>
> From: Stein Bruch
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 2:42 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ipad Mini PIREPs ?
>
> Hi Deems,
>
> As I mentioned in the other thread, I think you=99ll find that any/a
ll of the consumer grade tablets will be disappointing in direct sunlight as
compared to an aviation grade unit like a 696 or something. Anti-glare scr
een protectors go a long way, but still they are in a different league. If y
ou go into this experience knowing that even the =9Cbest=9D of t
he consumer tablets are still poor in direct sunlight, then you=99ll b
e fine. But, if anyone tells you that certain ones are so much better in co
mparison, then you=99ll likely find that no matter which one you buy i
t=99ll still seem pretty meager in direct sun. I say go get a tablet a
nd don=99t look back =93 you WILL fall in love with the thing af
ter you play around with it for awhile; whether you use Garmin Pilot (my new
fav), Foreflight, or WingX, any of them are a terrific addition to your fli
ght bag.
>
> Cheers,
> Stein
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:12 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Ipad Mini PIREPs ?
>
> I like the form factor of the mini as an 'in-cockpit' device, I was about t
o buy one, But a conversation I had with a pilot at the airport said he was e
xtremely disappointed with it's screen readability. In his eyes the screen w
asn't nearly bright enough for in-cockpit use. I haven't compared the NIT ra
ting of each,
> Anybody have any real experience they'd like to share?
>
> Deems
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Ipad Mini PIREPs ? |
I agree with the above. My mini with a Brando glare shield is nowhere as good as
the display on my Cheltons, but it is good enough. It is mounted right of center
to my panel with a RAM ball mount. I can almost always tilt it to eliminate
glare.
Jim Berry
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