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1. 02:54 AM - Alternatives to RockRack Switches (Dan Charrois)
2. 03:18 AM - Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches (Bob Leffler)
3. 05:47 AM - Pink Slip (rleffler)
4. 06:15 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Don McDonald)
5. 06:17 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Rene Felker)
6. 06:23 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Tim Olson)
7. 06:27 AM - Re: Pink Slip (rleffler)
8. 07:06 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Kelly McMullen)
9. 07:26 AM - Re: Go Pro mounts (Strasnuts)
10. 07:57 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Linn Walters)
11. 08:46 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Jesse Saint)
12. 09:13 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Bob Leffler)
13. 09:26 AM - Part Number for Third Keyed Lock From Aircraft Spruce (Dave Fritzsche (Building))
14. 09:30 AM - Re: Pink Slip (Byron Gillespie)
15. 09:37 AM - Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches (Bill Watson)
16. 10:26 AM - Re: Part Number for Third Keyed Lock From Aircraft Spruce (Bob Leffler)
17. 11:59 AM - Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches (charliewaffles)
18. 02:25 PM - Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches (Geoff Combs)
19. 03:25 PM - Re: Part Number for Third Keyed Lock From Aircraft Spruce (Albert Gardner)
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| Subject: | Alternatives to RockRack Switches |
Hi there.
When it comes to switches for my panel, I like the idea of LED illuminated switches
with some kind of text/icon directly visible on the switch to indicate its
function. I'd rather not have to label the panel itself. The Aveo RockRack
switches, though a bit on the large side, seemed exactly what I was working for.
However, when I went to contact a distributor about them, I was told that they're
no longer being made, in anticipation for a "new version" with no ETA. I can
wait a bit if I knew how long the wait would be, but not indefinitely, so I'm
exploring different options.
Does anybody have something else they could suggest (or does someone know a source
for RockRack switches that has them in stock)? One possibility is perhaps
something that allows me to laser print on acetate my own labels to slide into
a window on the switch? I was looking at the Carling Contura V series, with
some of their actuators that provide a square illumination window, but the more
closely I look into them, I'm suspecting its just a frosted window with no
ability for custom labelling.
I also looked at NKK SmartSwitches, but though they may look nice, add a lot of
extra complication. (The primary complication I see is that I'd need to design
an interface board to convert their momentary contact into a latched on or off
state, and it seems that the reliability when introducing that kind of complication
would go way down).
I've seen the rocker switches available from AeroSport Products (I'm already using
their carbon fibre panel and interior), but from their photos on the web site,
their labels look somewhat "washed out" (though this could just be a side
effect of the photos overexposing the labelled portion). Has anyone seen them
to know what they look like in reality? From what I've seen so far, they seem
like my best bet, but I wanted to check with the members of the list here first
to get opinions on what makes a nice looking switch for the RV-10.
Dan
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Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| Subject: | Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches |
I have Geoff's switches in my RV-10. The labels are black lettered decals applied
to the led window on the switch, They are very well defined and sharp.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:53 AM, Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've seen the rocker switches available from AeroSport Products (I'm already
using their carbon fibre panel and interior), but from their photos on the web
site, their labels look somewhat "washed out" (though this could just be a side
effect of the photos overexposing the labelled portion). Has anyone seen them
to know what they look like in reality? From what I've seen so far, they
seem like my best bet, but I wanted to check with the members of the list here
first to get opinions on what makes a nice looking switch for the RV-10.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim Baldwin,
Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring, and
friendship throughout the build.
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Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
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Way to hang in there Bob.... now the fun begins.
Don McDonald
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On Wed, 7/17/13, rleffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
Subject: RV10-List: Pink Slip
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 7:46 AM
"rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger
today to inspect N410BL. Two hours later I had both
the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary Repairman's
certificate.
I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He
didnt have an answer.
I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for
all their work on the project. Now the fun can
begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim Baldwin,
Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd
Stanton, Brent Owens, and all of the RV-10 Matronics list
for all their assistance, mentoring, and friendship
throughout the build.
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
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Congrats. When are you planning to do your first flight? My first flight was
one of the most significant events in my life....I will always remember it.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rleffler
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pink Slip
John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim Baldwin,
Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring, and
friendship throughout the build.
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
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Awesome, Bob! So next year you'll have it at OSH for sure!!!
Are you coming this year without it, or staying home to fly those
hours off? Or, are you putting in some extra vacation time and
flying it off before OSH?
Tim
On 7/17/2013 7:46 AM, rleffler wrote:
>
> John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
>
>
>
> I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
>
> I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim
Baldwin, Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring,
and friendship throughout the build.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
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rene(at)felker.com wrote:
> Congrats. When are you planning to do your first flight? My first flight was
one of the most significant events in my life....I will always remember it.
> --
Probably at least a month out. I still have some work I want to complete on the
plane before the first flight.
To compound the situation, we're moving into a new house next week. The deal
I made with my wife, was to allow me to dedicate myself on getting the airworthiness
certificate, then I would focus on the house for the next two weeks.
To be honest, a break from all the around the clock work on the plan will do me
good.
When I do perform the first flight, all my major life stressors will be behind
me.
bob
Do Not Archive
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Bob Leffler
N410BL - Phase I
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404835#404835
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Huge congrats Bob!
Seems like the finishing phase will never end. Have followed your build
for a long time and it has been big help in making my choices.
Kelly
On 7/17/2013 5:46 AM, rleffler wrote:
>
> John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
>
>
>
> I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
>
> I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim
Baldwin, Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring,
and friendship throughout the build.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Go Pro mounts |
My website is updated to show the wingtip mount and the tie down mount sold separately
or together.
--------
40936
RV-10 SB N801VR Flying
400 hours
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404838#404838
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Rene, for me too. 32 years ago I flew my Pitts S-1E for the first
time. Every part of that first flight is still fresh and indelibly
etched in my memory. My checkride for my private in 74 is the same
way. Very momentous occasions!!!
Linn
On 7/17/2013 9:16 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> Congrats. When are you planning to do your first flight? My first flight was
one of the most significant events in my life....I will always remember it.
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rleffler
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:47 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Pink Slip
>
>
> John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
>
>
>
> I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
>
> I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim
Baldwin, Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring,
and friendship throughout the build.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
>
>
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Congrats!
Our FSDO said that they think the supply of certificates faded to the peach color,
but probably someone messed up the order or something. Who knows with the
FAA.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:46 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
>
>
>
> I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
>
> I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim
Baldwin, Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring,
and friendship throughout the build.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
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John followed up with me after seeing his photo and caption on VAF this morning.
He still doesn't know the answer other than its a controlled FAA form and that's
what the office sent.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
Congrats!
Our FSDO said that they think the supply of certificates faded to the peach color,
but probably someone messed up the order or something. Who knows with the
FAA.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:46 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
>
>
>
> I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
>
> I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim
Baldwin, Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring,
and friendship throughout the build.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
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| Subject: | Part Number for Third Keyed Lock From Aircraft Spruce |
I tried to order a keyed ignition switch and lock set A-510-2k (part
number 11-03172) from Aircraft Spruce this morning. I wanted to include
a third lock with all keyed alike to cover the two doors and baggage
door as others have done on this list. The person taking the order
asked me for a part number for the additional lock. No part number is
shown on the web page. He said he could not order the additional lock
without a part number. Does anyone have the part number for the third lock?
Dave
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Fritzsche
40813
Puyallup, WA
Fuselage
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More congrats Bob! Look forward to the first flight review..
I fully agree with the Matronics list group and the individual web sites that are
available for reference.Don't believe that I would have jumped in without the
available support.
Byron
N253RV flying - but still need paint
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 17, 2013, at 8:46 AM, "rleffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>
> John Welsh, of the CMH FSDO, office stopped by the hanger today to inspect N410BL.
Two hours later I had both the Airworthiness certificate and my temporary
Repairman's certificate.
>
>
>
> I asked John why my pink slip was salmon. He didnt have an answer.
>
> I would like to thank my family, Janice, Brad, and Renee for all their work on
the project. Now the fun can begin! I also want to thank Geoff Combs, Jim
Baldwin, Joe Strausbaugh, Tom Webster Sr., Dana Saucier, Todd Stanton, Brent Owens,
and all of the RV-10 Matronics list for all their assistance, mentoring,
and friendship throughout the build.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - Phase I
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404830#404830
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches |
I used white Honeywell rockers (AML34,24) with labels and backlighting.
I'm assuming you aware of the these already and have already decided
they are not what you want. But LEDs or incandescent bulbs can be
used. There is a vendor that does quality custom lettering as well.
Here's a pic of part of my panel with them
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&category=4053&log=122434&row=2
On 7/17/2013 5:53 AM, Dan Charrois wrote:
>
> Hi there.
>
> When it comes to switches for my panel, I like the idea of LED illuminated switches
with some kind of text/icon directly visible on the switch to indicate
its function. I'd rather not have to label the panel itself. The Aveo RockRack
switches, though a bit on the large side, seemed exactly what I was working
for.
>
> However, when I went to contact a distributor about them, I was told that they're
no longer being made, in anticipation for a "new version" with no ETA. I
can wait a bit if I knew how long the wait would be, but not indefinitely, so
I'm exploring different options.
>
> Does anybody have something else they could suggest (or does someone know a source
for RockRack switches that has them in stock)? One possibility is perhaps
something that allows me to laser print on acetate my own labels to slide into
a window on the switch? I was looking at the Carling Contura V series, with
some of their actuators that provide a square illumination window, but the
more closely I look into them, I'm suspecting its just a frosted window with no
ability for custom labelling.
>
> I also looked at NKK SmartSwitches, but though they may look nice, add a lot
of extra complication. (The primary complication I see is that I'd need to design
an interface board to convert their momentary contact into a latched on or
off state, and it seems that the reliability when introducing that kind of complication
would go way down).
>
> I've seen the rocker switches available from AeroSport Products (I'm already
using their carbon fibre panel and interior), but from their photos on the web
site, their labels look somewhat "washed out" (though this could just be a side
effect of the photos overexposing the labelled portion). Has anyone seen them
to know what they look like in reality? From what I've seen so far, they
seem like my best bet, but I wanted to check with the members of the list here
first to get opinions on what makes a nice looking switch for the RV-10.
>
> Dan
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part Number for Third Keyed Lock From Aircraft Spruce |
I would have to look it up and all my records are packed for an upcoming move.
I was told that they really don't have a option for adding a single lock. I suspect
it's a lack of defined process issue.
ACS does have a sku for a custom order for the switch and four identical keyed
locks. It's not on their website. That's what I did. It took about two weeks
to get the locks.
Bob
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Dave Fritzsche (Building)" <dfritz@bpgsim.com> wrote:
I tried to order a keyed ignition switch and lock set A-510-2k (part number 11-03172)
from Aircraft Spruce this morning. I wanted to include a third lock with
all keyed alike to cover the two doors and baggage door as others have done
on this list. The person taking the order asked me for a part number for the
additional lock. No part number is shown on the web page. He said he could
not order the additional lock without a part number. Does anyone have the part
number for the third lock?
Dave
--
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Dave Fritzsche
40813
Puyallup, WA
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Alternatives to RockRack Switches |
The Rockrack switches are easily in stock at ACS. I would recommend purchasing
them there. The "future" version has never materialized so I wouldn't wait for
them. The dual colored lights are difficult to get ahold of and if ACS doesn't
have them, it could be 6+ months. But if you are sticking to a single color
lamp, then you should be good to go with them.
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| Subject: | Alternatives to RockRack Switches |
Dan
We have sold many of these switches and everyone that likes rockers switches
seems to like them. The lettering
Is very easy to read and you are not limited to only certain lettering or
graphics. We can do custom lettering if
Needed for a small up charge. Pricing is way less than AVEO See attached
photos
Geoff
Geoff Combs
Aerosport Products
8090 howe industrial pkwy
canal winchester, ohio 43110
614.834.8659p
www.aerosportproducts.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alternatives to RockRack Switches
I used white Honeywell rockers (AML34,24) with labels and backlighting.
I'm assuming you aware of the these already and have already decided they
are not what you want. But LEDs or incandescent bulbs can be used. There
is a vendor that does quality custom lettering as well.
Here's a pic of part of my panel with them
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&c
ategory=4053&log=122434&row=2
On 7/17/2013 5:53 AM, Dan Charrois wrote:
>
> Hi there.
>
> When it comes to switches for my panel, I like the idea of LED illuminated
switches with some kind of text/icon directly visible on the switch to
indicate its function. I'd rather not have to label the panel itself. The
Aveo RockRack switches, though a bit on the large side, seemed exactly what
I was working for.
>
> However, when I went to contact a distributor about them, I was told that
they're no longer being made, in anticipation for a "new version" with no
ETA. I can wait a bit if I knew how long the wait would be, but not
indefinitely, so I'm exploring different options.
>
> Does anybody have something else they could suggest (or does someone know
a source for RockRack switches that has them in stock)? One possibility is
perhaps something that allows me to laser print on acetate my own labels to
slide into a window on the switch? I was looking at the Carling Contura V
series, with some of their actuators that provide a square illumination
window, but the more closely I look into them, I'm suspecting its just a
frosted window with no ability for custom labelling.
>
> I also looked at NKK SmartSwitches, but though they may look nice, add a
lot of extra complication. (The primary complication I see is that I'd need
to design an interface board to convert their momentary contact into a
latched on or off state, and it seems that the reliability when introducing
that kind of complication would go way down).
>
> I've seen the rocker switches available from AeroSport Products (I'm
already using their carbon fibre panel and interior), but from their photos
on the web site, their labels look somewhat "washed out" (though this could
just be a side effect of the photos overexposing the labelled portion). Has
anyone seen them to know what they look like in reality? From what I've
seen so far, they seem like my best bet, but I wanted to check with the
members of the list here first to get opinions on what makes a nice looking
switch for the RV-10.
>
> Dan
>
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