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1. 05:22 AM - Osh13 Builders Cookout (Ed Kranz)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: TD-300 (Don McDonald)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: TD-300 (Don McDonald)
4. 06:27 AM - Re: TD-300 (Marcus Cooper)
5. 06:46 AM - Re: TD-300 (rv10flyer)
6. 07:12 AM - Re: TD-300 (Kelly McMullen)
7. 07:29 AM - Re: Osh13 Builders Cookout (John Cox)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: TD-300 (bsponcil@belinblank.org)
9. 09:07 AM - Re: TD-300 (Bob Turner)
10. 09:08 AM - Re: TD-300 (Carl Froehlich)
11. 09:09 AM - Re: TD-300 (Kelly McMullen)
12. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: TD-300 (Kelly McMullen)
13. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: TD-300 (Jason Wodack)
14. 09:51 AM - Re: Osh13 Builders Cookout (Robin Marks)
15. 10:26 AM - Re: Osh13 Builders Cookout (Bob Leffler)
16. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: TD-300 (JimVillani)
17. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: TD-300 (Jason Wodack)
18. 01:13 PM - Re: TD-300 (Gordon)
19. 04:43 PM - Re: TD-300 (Nikolaos Napoli)
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| Subject: | Osh13 Builders Cookout |
Tonight is the night for the builders cookout in Camp Scholler.
Make sure you sign up at http://www.perfectpotluck.com/meals.php?t=BXYH015
5 especially if your planning on bringing some food or drink to share.
Hope to see you all there!
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Right on Kelly.... but for quite a while refueling would certainly be an is
sue.... who has diesel at the airport.=0A =0A=0A___________________________
_____=0A From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics
.com =0ASent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:51 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: TD-3
00=0A =0A=0A=0ATwo reasons it won't work. "Only 230 hp", and weight is mor
e than Cont IO-550, at least 50 lbs heavier than Lyc IO-540. W&B won't work
with that much wt out front.=0AWhile the hp would be sufficient, especiall
y if it was turbo-charged, you would need the wt to be equal to or less tha
n Lyc O-540. You would also need someone to build an engine mount for it.
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:50 AM, <bsponcil@belinblank.org> w
rote:=0A=0AWalking around OSH I noticed Continental is supposedly starting
production on a 240HP air cooled, direct drive diesel motor (TD-300 see att
achment).- Seems a bit heavy but otherwise it appears to be a potential f
it for the RV-10 airframe.- I'm wondering if anyone has considered this e
ngine for their -10.=0A>=0A>=0A>-Brian=0A>Iowa City, IA=0A> =0A=0A=0A-
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Right on Kelly..... as usual.... but for quite a while refueling would be a
definite challenge.... who has diesel at the airport.=0A =0A=0A___________
_____________________=0A From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv1
0-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:51 PM=0ASubject: Re:
RV10-List: TD-300=0A =0A=0A=0ATwo reasons it won't work. "Only 230 hp", a
nd weight is more than Cont IO-550, at least 50 lbs heavier than Lyc IO-540
. W&B won't work with that much wt out front.=0AWhile the hp would be suffi
cient, especially if it was turbo-charged, you would need the wt to be equa
l to or less than Lyc O-540. You would also need someone to build an engine
mount for it.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:50 AM, <bsponcil@bel
inblank.org> wrote:=0A=0AWalking around OSH I noticed Continental is suppos
edly starting production on a 240HP air cooled, direct drive diesel motor (
TD-300 see attachment).- Seems a bit heavy but otherwise it appears to be
a potential fit for the RV-10 airframe.- I'm wondering if anyone has con
sidered this engine for their -10.=0A>=0A>=0A>-Brian=0A>Iowa City, IA=0A>
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It runs on JetA, which for some will still be a snag, but the weight-power a
nd install issues are huge. Probably wont be cheap either, but it's a start
.
Marcus
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On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com> wrote
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> Right on Kelly..... as usual.... but for quite a while refueling would be a
definite challenge.... who has diesel at the airport.
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> From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: TD-300
>
> Two reasons it won't work. "Only 230 hp", and weight is more than Cont IO-
550, at least 50 lbs heavier than Lyc IO-540. W&B won't work with that much w
t out front.
> While the hp would be sufficient, especially if it was turbo-charged, you w
ould need the wt to be equal to or less than Lyc O-540. You would also need s
omeone to build an engine mount for it.
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> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:50 AM, <bsponcil@belinblank.org> wrote:
> Walking around OSH I noticed Continental is supposedly starting production
on a 240HP air cooled, direct drive diesel motor (TD-300 see attachment). S
eems a bit heavy but otherwise it appears to be a potential fit for the RV-1
0 airframe. I'm wondering if anyone has considered this engine for their -1
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It was FAA certified in April 2013. No thanks, I won't support communist China
if I have a choice.
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Wayne G.
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At the airport it is called Jet A and virtually all aircraft diesel engines
are designed to run on it. Yes, it has somewhat different additives, but is
a real close cousin to Diesel #2. It could be a problem at airports that
don't have any turbine powered customers, but a lot of crop dusters, King
Airs, Caravans, TBM's etc are creating demand for jet fuel at many "small"
airports. I don't see fueling as much of a limitation. Wt, Bal, and
mounting are likely to be the deal killers.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Right on Kelly.... but for quite a while refueling would certainly be an
> issue.... who has diesel at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Osh13 Builders Cookout |
Signed Up, will bring CASH. Thanks!
John Cox
On Jul 31, 2013 7:26 AM, "Ed Kranz" <ed.kranz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tonight is the night for the builders cookout in Camp Scholler.
>
> Make sure you sign up at
> http://www.perfectpotluck.com/meals.php?t=BXYH0155 especially if your
> planning on bringing some food or drink to share.
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> Hope to see you all there!
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-I could bewrong but the dry weight of the lyc IO-540 is something like
440lbs which wouldmake the TD-300 20lbs heavier rather than 50.And by th
e time you throw in the accessories I?m guessing thatdifference narrows a
bit more.Thesemotors are flying in front of 182s so it doesn't seem like
they could be THAT far out in terms of W&B.I would say the biggest hurdl
e would befabricating a cowling.As someone elsesaid, at least it?s a star
t.
-Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: TD-300
At the airport it is called Jet A and virtually all aircraft diesel engin
es are designed to run on it. Yes, it has somewhat different additives, b
ut is a real close cousin to Diesel #2. It could be a problem at airports
that don't have any turbine powered customers, but a lot of crop dusters
, King Airs, Caravans, TBM's etc are creating demand for jet fuel at many
"small" airports. I don't see fueling as much of a limitation. Wt, Bal,
and mounting are likely to be the deal killers.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com
> wrote:
Right on Kelly.... but for quite a while refueling would certainly be an
issue.... who has diesel at the airport.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-="http://www.matronics.com/cont
ribution" target="_blank" rel="nofollo=
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listtp://forums.ma
tronics.com_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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I see the power is very similar to an IO-540 at the same RPM.
Anyone know why the rpm's are limited to such a low value? Too much spinning mass?
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405721#405721
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The biggest hurdle is the price tag. With the lawyers controlling what we
pay for aviation related components the price of any new engine will be
governed by liability cost.
Carl
Still dreaming of 91/96UL wide distribution to drive down fuel cost
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
bsponcil@belinblank.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: TD-300
I could be wrong but the dry weight of the lyc IO-540 is something like
440lbs which would make the TD-300 20lbs heavier rather than 50. And by the
time you throw in the accessories I?m guessing that difference narrows a bit
more. These motors are flying in front of 182s so it doesn't seem like they
could be THAT far out in terms of W&B. I would say the biggest hurdle would
be fabricating a cowling. As someone else said, at least it?s a start.
-Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: TD-300
At the airport it is called Jet A and virtually all aircraft diesel engines
are designed to run on it. Yes, it has somewhat different additives, but is
a real close cousin to Diesel #2. It could be a problem at airports that
don't have any turbine powered customers, but a lot of crop dusters, King
Airs, Caravans, TBM's etc are creating demand for jet fuel at many "small"
airports. I don't see fueling as much of a limitation. Wt, Bal, and mounting
are likely to be the deal killers.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Right on Kelly.... but for quite a while refueling would certainly be an
issue.... who has diesel at the airport.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-="http://www.matronics.com/contribut
ion" target="_blank" rel="nofollo=
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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The Lycoming Operator's Manual puts the IO540-D4A5 engine dry wt as 402
lbs, so yes the wt difference is at least 40 or more lbs. Very significant.
On 7/31/2013 8:26 AM, bsponcil@belinblank.org wrote:
>
> I could be wrong but the dry weight of the lyc IO-540 is something
> like 440lbs which would make the TD-300 20lbs heavier rather than
> 50.And by the time you throw in the accessories I?m guessing that
> difference narrows a bit more.These motors are flying in front of 182s
> so it doesn't seem like they could be THAT far out in terms of W&B.I
> would say the biggest hurdle would be fabricating a cowling.As someone
> else said, at least it?s a start.
>
>
> -Brian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:11 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: TD-300
>
> At the airport it is called Jet A and virtually all aircraft
> diesel engines are designed to run on it. Yes, it has somewhat
> different additives, but is a real close cousin to Diesel #2. It
> could be a problem at airports that don't have any turbine powered
> customers, but a lot of crop dusters, King Airs, Caravans, TBM's
> etc are creating demand for jet fuel at many "small" airports. I
> don't see fueling as much of a limitation. Wt, Bal, and mounting
> are likely to be the deal killers.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Don McDonald
> <building_partner@yahoo.com <mailto:building_partner@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Right on Kelly.... but for quite a while refueling would
> certainly be an issue.... who has diesel at the airport.
>
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Diesels are "torque" producers at low rpm, unlike gas engines that tend
to produce more power the higher rpm you can spin them.
On 7/31/2013 9:07 AM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> I see the power is very similar to an IO-540 at the same RPM.
> Anyone know why the rpm's are limited to such a low value? Too much spinning
mass?
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405721#405721
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Most diesels are limited to a low RPM because of the stresses involved with
compression ignition engine. Even most truck/equipment/industrial diesels
redline below 2000RPM.
On Jul 31, 2013 9:10 AM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> wrote:
>
> I see the power is very similar to an IO-540 at the same RPM.
> Anyone know why the rpm's are limited to such a low value? Too much
> spinning mass?
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405721#405721
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| Subject: | Osh13 Builders Cookout |
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| Subject: | Re: Osh13 Builders Cookout |
Technology clearly has had an impact on us. As many of you are aware, my so
n is just about to graduate for the Euro NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training progr
am at Sheppard AFB. Last week was drop night, in which future pilot gets as
signed his next airframe. (I digress for a proud dad moment, brad was assig
ned a F-16. ). The was an Italian contingent whose parents couldn't make it t
o both drop night and graduation. There were volunteers carrying an iPad in
each arm with a Skype session back to a parent in Italy. There were probabl
y a half dozen iPads skyping in the room. Technology was able allow some p
roud parents to participate in the festivities.
So now we just need Ed to flip burgers with one hand and a gopro in the othe
r. Of course that assumes that the camp wifi is up and had bandwidth to st
ream
Bi
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com> wrote:
I wish we had a webcam & display there so those that could not make OSH coul
d attend the cookout virtually.
Have a great time,
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:22 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Osh13 Builders Cookout
Tonight is the night for the builders cookout in Camp Scholler.
Make sure you sign up at http://www.perfectpotluck.com/meals.php?t=BXYH015
5 especially if your planning on bringing some food or drink to share.
Hope to see you all there!
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My Cummings 6.7 redlines at 3,100 Dodge Pickup.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wodack
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: TD-300
Most diesels are limited to a low RPM because of the stresses involved with
compression ignition engine. Even most truck/equipment/industrial diesels
redline below 2000RPM.
On Jul 31, 2013 9:10 AM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu
<mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> > wrote:
<mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu> >
I see the power is very similar to an IO-540 at the same RPM.
Anyone know why the rpm's are limited to such a low value? Too much spinning
mass?
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Sorry Jim, didn't specify. I was speaking of Heavy truck diesels, heavy
equipment, and industrial engine applications.
Jason
On Jul 31, 2013 10:37 AM, "JimVillani" <Jim@jimvillani.com> wrote:
> My Cummings 6.7 redlines at 3,100 Dodge Pickup=85 ****
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> I see the power is very similar to an IO-540 at the same RPM.
> Anyone know why the rpm's are limited to such a low value? Too much
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Just for fun can any of you lucky enough to be "on location" find out what p
rop it was certified with? At 17:1 compression ratio a direct drive engine w
ill give a prop a real hard time, which is why Hartzell developed a special o
ne for the SMA engine some years ago. Lots of carbon and $$$ to match, whic
h helped neither W&B nor the pocketbook.
Gordon Anderson
41015 Switzerland
On 31.07.2013, at 16:11, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the airport it is called Jet A and virtually all aircraft diesel engine
s are designed to run on it. Yes, it has somewhat different additives, but i
s a real close cousin to Diesel #2. It could be a problem at airports that d
on't have any turbine powered customers, but a lot of crop dusters, King Air
s, Caravans, TBM's etc are creating demand for jet fuel at many "small" airp
orts. I don't see fueling as much of a limitation. Wt, Bal, and mounting are
likely to be the deal killers.
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A composite MT prop would make up for some of the weight difference and for t
he rest you might need 5 or 10 lbs in the tail
I remember attending a presentation by Deltahawk maybe 5 years ago. They cl
aimed that the MT prop worked with their engine where as the standard metal p
rops did not. No idea if thats true or not at this point.
Nikolaos Napoli
On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:26 AM, bsponcil@belinblank.org wrote:
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> I could be wrong but the dry weight of the lyc IO-540 is something like 44
0lbs which would make the TD-300 20lbs heavier rather than 50. And by the t
ime you throw in the accessories I?m guessing that difference narrows a bit m
ore. These motors are flying in front of 182s so it doesn't seem like they c
ould be THAT far out in terms of W&B. I would say the biggest hurdle would b
e fabricating a cowling. As someone else said, at least it?s a start.
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> From: Kelly McMullen [mailto:apilot2@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:11 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: TD-300
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> At the airport it is called Jet A and virtually all aircraft diesel engine
s are designed to run on it. Yes, it has somewhat different additives, but i
s a real close cousin to Diesel #2. It could be a problem at airports that d
on't have any turbine powered customers, but a lot of crop dusters, King Air
s, Caravans, TBM's etc are creating demand for jet fuel at many "small" airp
orts. I don't see fueling as much of a limitation. Wt, Bal, and mounting are
likely to be the deal killers.
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