---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/04/13: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:53 AM - Slick Mag AD? (jkreidler) 2. 09:04 AM - Re: OSH13 RV10 Builder's Cookout () 3. 11:14 AM - Re: Slick Mag AD? (Bob Leffler) 4. 01:14 PM - Re: Slick Mag AD? (jkreidler) 5. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Slick Mag AD? (Bob Leffler) 6. 07:06 PM - Re: Slick Mag AD? (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:32 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Slick Mag AD? From: "jkreidler" All, while at Oshkosh I had a conversation with the slick mag guys. Joe warned me of a service bulletin (Slick SB1-98, Lycoming SB 537) which turned into an AD that should apply to our engines IO540-D4A5 but for some reason does not explicitly list our model. Instead they make reference to a list of models and engines with fifth order balancers which the last "5" in our suffix refers to. The service bulletin calls for mandatory 250 hour inspections of impulse couplings, ultimately advising replacement of impulse coupled mags with retard breakers and slick start. So to the brain trust - what is your interpretation of this SB (a short Google search will find it)? I wonder why they continue to offer impulse coupled mags on new IO540-XXX5 engines. When I talked to Lycoming they said, "yup it looks like this applies to your engine". - Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405907#405907 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:49 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH13 RV10 Builder's Cookout Amy and I (Peter) had a blast, we met lots of RV-10 builders and saw a few on the flightline as well. it is a great stimulance to make sure that I work every free moment on my plane. Peter Lammers RV-10, working on baffles and engine installation EFII fuel injected and electronic ignition IO 540 N469PL reserved. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick Mag AD? From: Bob Leffler does it only apply to an impulse mag? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2013, at 11:53 AM, "jkreidler" wrote: All, while at Oshkosh I had a conversation with the slick mag guys. Joe warned me of a service bulletin (Slick SB1-98, Lycoming SB 537) which turned into an AD that should apply to our engines IO540-D4A5 but for some reason does not explicitly list our model. Instead they make reference to a list of models and engines with fifth order balancers which the last "5" in our suffix refers to. The service bulletin calls for mandatory 250 hour inspections of impulse couplings, ultimately advising replacement of impulse coupled mags with retard breakers and slick start. So to the brain trust - what is your interpretation of this SB (a short Google search will find it)? I wonder why they continue to offer impulse coupled mags on new IO540-XXX5 engines. When I talked to Lycoming they said, "yup it looks like this applies to your engine". - Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405907#405907 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:33 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Slick Mag AD? From: "jkreidler" Yes, only impulse mags if it applies at all, I am still very curious why the D4A5 would not have been listed if it applied. At the same time I don't want an omission on their part to leave us with the same real issue even if the paperwork didn't follow. - Jason -------- Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler N44YH - Flying - #40617 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405923#405923 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Slick Mag AD? From: Bob Leffler Thanks. I just moved and my network access is limited. I can get the 10 ready for first flight or wire the new house. Fortunately for me, the engines that Vans sell all have a retard mag. Bob Sent from my iPad On Aug 4, 2013, at 4:14 PM, "jkreidler" wrote: > > Yes, only impulse mags if it applies at all, I am still very curious why the D4A5 would not have been listed if it applied. At the same time I don't want an omission on their part to leave us with the same real issue even if the paperwork didn't follow. - Jason > > -------- > Jason Kreidler > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI > Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405923#405923 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Slick Mag AD? From: Kelly McMullen The way the Lycoming and Slick service bulletins are written at this time, they do not apply to the C4B5 or D4A5 engines. Given that those engines were extensively used on the Aztec and Comanche aircraft, if the bulletin was to apply to them, it would state that. Not saying you shouldn't keep an eye on the impulse coupling, but the SB names all affected aircraft. Since the engines normally used in the -10 don't come from any of those aircraft, probably does not apply. Of course many of the donor aircraft didn't have problems with Slick mags because they were originally certified with Bendix mags (which have some of their own ADs, but are generally more durable and more rebuildable than Slicks) On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:53 AM, jkreidler wrote: > jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> > > All, while at Oshkosh I had a conversation with the slick mag guys. Joe > warned me of a service bulletin (Slick SB1-98, Lycoming SB 537) which > turned into an AD that should apply to our engines IO540-D4A5 but for some > reason does not explicitly list our model. Instead they make reference to > a list of models and engines with fifth order balancers which the last "5" > in our suffix refers to. The service bulletin calls for mandatory 250 hour > inspections of impulse couplings, ultimately advising replacement of > impulse coupled mags with retard breakers and slick start. > > So to the brain trust - what is your interpretation of this SB (a short > Google search will find it)? I wonder why they continue to offer impulse > coupled mags on new IO540-XXX5 engines. When I talked to Lycoming they > said, "yup it looks like this applies to your engine". - Jason > > -------- > Jason Kreidler > 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI > Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler > N44YH - Flying - #40617 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405907#405907 > > -- - sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.