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1. 08:29 AM - Webinar (Kelly McMullen)
2. 10:41 AM - Re: Webinar (PlaneAround LLC)
3. 03:00 PM - door sill finishing (Chris Hukill)
4. 05:01 PM - Repair paint cracking around door window opening (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
5. 05:12 PM - Re: door sill finishing (Chris)
6. 05:18 PM - Re: door sill finishing (Chris)
7. 07:11 PM - Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening (Dave Saylor)
8. 07:21 PM - Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening ()
9. 07:27 PM - Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening (Jesse Saint)
10. 08:00 PM - Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
11. 08:21 PM - Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening (Dave Saylor)
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Annual Condition inspection by EAA tomorrow
http://tinyurl.com/lt5tw3h
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Registered. Thanks Kelly!
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly McMullen
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Webinar
Annual Condition inspection by EAA tomorrow
http://tinyurl.com/lt5tw3h
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| Subject: | door sill finishing |
I=99m looking for ideas on how to finish the lower door sill. The
Vans demo plane has a piece of wood to provide a ledge to sit or step on
when entering the cabin. Does anyone have some other ideas? Maybe
pictures?
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Repair paint cracking around door window opening |
Anyone have an idea how to repair this condition? What is the door made of,and
how do I repair it? Robert Brunkenhoefer N661G KCRP
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | door sill finishing |
Teak with inlay. My wood working friend did it up for me.
-Chris
N919AR
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: door sill finishing
I=99m looking for ideas on how to finish the lower door sill. The
Vans demo plane has a piece of wood to provide a ledge to sit or step on
when entering the cabin. Does anyone have some other ideas? Maybe
pictures?
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | door sill finishing |
nother shot,
Chris
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: door sill finishing
I=99m looking for ideas on how to finish the lower door sill. The
Vans demo plane has a piece of wood to provide a ledge to sit or step on
when entering the cabin. Does anyone have some other ideas? Maybe
pictures?
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening |
You're probably seeing the joint between the plastic window and the
fiberglass door. The window is usually painted over the first 3/4" or so.
Cracks in that area are very common.
The best way to prevent or repair the issue is to remove the paint, then
overlay a thin layer of fiberglass almost up to the edge of the window
opening. That takes some bodywork and paint but on the doors it shouldn't
be too big a deal.
Worse is when the same thing happens around the rear windows and
windshield. The repair is the same but depending on your paint scheme, the
bodywork and paint may take more effort to make look right. But it's
doable, and there probably isn't any rush to get it fixed. I doubt your
window is in any danger of departing. If you see the window actually start
to lift or move relative to the base material, then it's time to get it
fixed.
Hope that helps,
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer
<robertbrunk@mac.com>wrote:
> >
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> Anyone have an idea how to repair this condition? What is the door made
> of,and how do I repair it? Robert Brunkenhoefer N661G KCRP
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> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening |
Hey Robert,
Dave probably has the right answer, but a picture would help to be more
specific. Did you attach a picture that I'm not seeing?
Later, - Lew
do not archive
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From: Robert Brunkenhoefer
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Repair paint cracking around door window opening
Anyone have an idea how to repair this condition? What is the door made
of,and how do I repair it? Robert Brunkenhoefer N661G KCRP
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| Subject: | Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening |
I agree. It's mainly a cosmetic issue. It's a fairly big job to fix on a pai
nted plane, so I'd recommend leaving it alone unless, as Dave mentioned, you
notice it coming loose. The cause of the problem is that the different mate
rials (fiberglass door and polycarbonate window) have different expansion co
efficients, so as they heat and cool, they change sizes differently and the s
eam gets a crack. Same reason the Lycoming and continentals have big piston t
o cylinder wall clearances and Rotax has 0.0-0.0004" clearance.
Jesse
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com
> wrote:
> You're probably seeing the joint between the plastic window and the fiberg
lass door. The window is usually painted over the first 3/4" or so. Cracks
in that area are very common.
>
> The best way to prevent or repair the issue is to remove the paint, then o
verlay a thin layer of fiberglass almost up to the edge of the window openin
g. That takes some bodywork and paint but on the doors it shouldn't be too b
ig a deal.
>
> Worse is when the same thing happens around the rear windows and windshiel
d. The repair is the same but depending on your paint scheme, the bodywork a
nd paint may take more effort to make look right. But it's doable, and ther
e probably isn't any rush to get it fixed. I doubt your window is in any da
nger of departing. If you see the window actually start to lift or move rel
ative to the base material, then it's time to get it fixed.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
>
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer <robertbrunk@mac.com
> wrote:
m>
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>> Anyone have an idea how to repair this condition? What is the door made o
f,and how do I repair it? Robert Brunkenhoefer N661G KCRP
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| Subject: | Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening |
It is as described by Jesse. Thanks. I know what to do now. Robert
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
> I agree. It's mainly a cosmetic issue. It's a fairly big job to fix on a p
ainted plane, so I'd recommend leaving it alone unless, as Dave mentioned, y
ou notice it coming loose. The cause of the problem is that the different ma
terials (fiberglass door and polycarbonate window) have different expansion c
oefficients, so as they heat and cool, they change sizes differently and the
seam gets a crack. Same reason the Lycoming and continentals have big pisto
n to cylinder wall clearances and Rotax has 0.0-0.0004" clearance.
>
> Jesse
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.c
om> wrote:
>
>> You're probably seeing the joint between the plastic window and the fiber
glass door. The window is usually painted over the first 3/4" or so. Crack
s in that area are very common.
>>
>> The best way to prevent or repair the issue is to remove the paint, then o
verlay a thin layer of fiberglass almost up to the edge of the window openin
g. That takes some bodywork and paint but on the doors it shouldn't be too b
ig a deal.
>>
>> Worse is when the same thing happens around the rear windows and windshie
ld. The repair is the same but depending on your paint scheme, the bodywork
and paint may take more effort to make look right. But it's doable, and th
ere probably isn't any rush to get it fixed. I doubt your window is in any d
anger of departing. If you see the window actually start to lift or move re
lative to the base material, then it's time to get it fixed.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>>
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>> Dave Saylor
>> 831-750-0284 CL
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>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer <robertbrunk@mac.co
m> wrote:
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>>> Anyone have an idea how to repair this condition? What is the door made o
f,and how do I repair it? Robert Brunkenhoefer N661G KCRP
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| Subject: | Re: Repair paint cracking around door window opening |
<<=8B
different materials (fiberglass door and polycarbonate window) have
different expansion coefficients
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oh, it's much worse actually: glass, resin, window, weld-on, filler,
primer, paint...all doin' the mambo in close proximity. Add a little oil
canning from the window, it's now wonder the joint cracks.
Lancair/Columbia/Cessna has an SB for the same issue on their windows as
well, same issue.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
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