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1. 03:36 PM - Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Bill Watson)
2. 04:23 PM - Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Carl Froehlich)
3. 04:42 PM - Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Kelly McMullen)
4. 05:35 PM - Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Bill Watson)
5. 05:37 PM - Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Bill Watson)
6. 07:12 PM - Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Dave Saylor)
7. 07:13 PM - Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable (Kelly McMullen)
8. 08:26 PM - Engine Settling Measurement (Karol Hansen)
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| Subject: | Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle and
mixture cables have started to wear through their sheathing in spots. I
know needing longer cables than the stock Vans cables is a common
requirement.
Where are people buying longer cables these days?
I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is
California. I also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
I sent this note to Van's a year and a half ago. The response back was
'many people are using the recommended cable'. The 50.5" cable from Van's
worked just fine (standard Van's engine and push/pull controls).
Carl
From: Carl Froehlich [mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:58 PM
Subject: RV-10 Throttle Cable too short
I installed the Van's recommended throttle cable (CT BLK THROTTLE 47.5) in
my YIO-540 RV-10 project. It is simply too short. I just purchased and
installed the IO-360 cable (CT BLK THROTTLE 50.5) and it fits better, but
not perfect.
Recommend offering a 49" cable for the RV-10 throttle control, or at least
selling the 50.5" instead of the 47.5" cable to RV-10 builders.
Your recommended prop and mixture cables worked well.
Carl Froehlich
40528
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 6:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable
<mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle and mixture
cables have started to wear through their sheathing in spots. I know
needing longer cables than the stock Vans cables is a common requirement.
Where are people buying longer cables these days?
I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is California. I
also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
Well, I am getting close to ordering my cables. I recall that ACS offers a
higher quality cable than what Vans buys from them. Top quality cables also
can be obtained from McFarlane, but are priced some where between 2 an 3
times Van's price. I need to talk to McFarlane as to what the real length
of their cables that they list for the RV-10 measure, as they show for
stock panel and for Aerosport panels but don't say what the length is on
their website.
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle and mixture
> cables have started to wear through their sheathing in spots. I know
> needing longer cables than the stock Vans cables is a common requirement.
>
> Where are people buying longer cables these days?
>
> I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is California.
> I also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
By ACS you mean Aircraft Spruce?
On 8/25/2013 7:41 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Well, I am getting close to ordering my cables. I recall that ACS
> offers a higher quality cable than what Vans buys from them. Top
> quality cables also can be obtained from McFarlane, but are priced
> some where between 2 an 3 times Van's price. I need to talk to
> McFarlane as to what the real length of their cables that they list
> for the RV-10 measure, as they show for stock panel and for Aerosport
> panels but don't say what the length is on their website.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com
> <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
>
> <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>>
>
> During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle and
> mixture cables have started to wear through their sheathing in
> spots. I know needing longer cables than the stock Vans cables is
> a common requirement.
>
> Where are people buying longer cables these days?
>
> I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is
> California. I also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
>
> Thanks.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
I'm one of the many people using the recommended cable. It works and it
is going to fail.
You gotta luv 'em. Seems like a case of selling what's on the truck.
On 8/25/2013 7:22 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
> I sent this note to Van's a year and a half ago. The response back
> was 'many people are using the recommended cable'. The 50.5" cable
> from Van's worked just fine (standard Van's engine and push/pull
> controls).
>
> Carl
>
> From: Carl Froehlich [mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:58 PM
>
> To: 'support@vansaircraft.com'
>
> Subject: RV-10 Throttle Cable too short
>
> I installed the Van's recommended throttle cable (CT BLK THROTTLE
> 47.5) in my YIO-540 RV-10 project. It is simply too short. I just
> purchased and installed the IO-360 cable (CT BLK THROTTLE 50.5) and it
> fits better, but not perfect.
>
> Recommend offering a 49" cable for the RV-10 throttle control, or at
> least selling the 50.5" instead of the 47.5" cable to RV-10 builders.
>
> Your recommended prop and mixture cables worked well.
>
> Carl Froehlich
>
> 40528
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 6:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture
> cable
>
> <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>>
>
> During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle and
> mixture cables have started to wear through their sheathing in spots.
> I know needing longer cables than the stock Vans cables is a common
> requirement.
>
> Where are people buying longer cables these days?
>
> I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is
> California. I also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
>
> Thanks.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
California Push-Pull makes and sells CableCraft cables. The green cables
from Vans are also CableCraft, but I used a different spec that seems to
handle heat better. Look for 176-VTT part numbers. The part numbers in
the archives should be available from any CableCraft distributor.
I changed my cables at around 500 hours. The new ones have close to 800
now and are smooth as silk.
Please note the measurements I gave are for a quadrant.
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle and mixture
> cables have started to wear through their sheathing in spots. I know
> needing longer cables than the stock Vans cables is a common requirement.
>
> Where are people buying longer cables these days?
>
> I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is California.
> I also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Longer engine cables - throttle cable and mixture cable |
http://www.acsproductsaz.com/our_products.htm
Which are sold by Spruce:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/controls_1acs.html
On 8/25/2013 5:34 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
> By ACS you mean Aircraft Spruce?
>
> On 8/25/2013 7:41 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>> Well, I am getting close to ordering my cables. I recall that ACS
>> offers a higher quality cable than what Vans buys from them. Top
>> quality cables also can be obtained from McFarlane, but are priced
>> some where between 2 an 3 times Van's price. I need to talk to
>> McFarlane as to what the real length of their cables that they list
>> for the RV-10 measure, as they show for stock panel and for Aerosport
>> panels but don't say what the length is on their website.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com
>> <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
>>
>> <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>>
>>
>> During my 2nd condition inspection I see that both by throttle
>> and mixture cables have started to wear through their sheathing
>> in spots. I know needing longer cables than the stock Vans
>> cables is a common requirement.
>>
>> Where are people buying longer cables these days?
>>
>> I see in the archives that Dave Saylor identifies someone is
>> California. I also see ACS (not Aircraft Spruce?).
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> ===================================
>> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ===================================
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> ===================================
>> le, List Admin.
>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ===================================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> - sent from the microchip implanted in my forearm
>> *
>>
>>
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>>
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
>> 08/25/13
>>
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| Subject: | Engine Settling Measurement |
>From you guys with Van's engine and cowl, and that have at least 50 plus hours
of flying on your 10, how much did the engine settle relative to the fixed position
of the cowl? My 6 settled about 3/32 and that was about what I planned
for - lucky!
Also were you successful with only 1/8th inch gap between spinner bulkhead and
forward cowl as per plans, or do you wish you had increased this gap just a bit
to facilitate cowl removal?
I'm certain I'll get quite a variety of opinions, but that's ok, please just let
em rip!!!
Thanks Much,
Rich
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