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1. 04:48 AM - Re: Engine Settling Measurement (bill.peyton)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: Paint (Michael Orth)
3. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: Paint (David Leikam)
4. 01:10 PM - Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (ivankris)
5. 01:21 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Bob Turner)
6. 01:40 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Timothy Meyer)
7. 02:10 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka)
8. 02:24 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Richard McBride)
9. 02:32 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. ()
10. 02:49 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (jkreidler)
11. 03:30 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Carl Froehlich)
12. 04:34 PM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Kelly McMullen)
13. 05:13 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Chris)
14. 05:46 PM - Rv-14 and BBQ at the Watsonville Fly-In this weekend. (Tim Farrell)
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Settling Measurement |
Mine settled around 1/8, may be just a bit more. I left 1/4 gap and glad I did.
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Mr. Kreidler,
If your name is "Many Greenies" I apologize for insulting you.
If your name is NOT "Many Greenies", I stand by my original post.
Never forget:
50% of Greenies are, by definition, below average.
Michael
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From: jkreidler
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Paint
<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
I am not sure I would ever call anyone on this forum under-educated, much
less throw that response at a single individual. Not what I come to this
forum for and I think I can safely say I speak for more than myself. I
appreciate the information, not the insults.
michaelrorth wrote:
> Hear! Hear!
> Many Greenies are extremely under-educated.
> Thanks for the truth.
>
> One amplification, though.
> Not only has the lack of DDT resulted in the deaths of millions in the
> past,
> the deaths continue today.
> This is why the mosquito is often referred to as "the deadliest animal on
> earth".
> Michael
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Jason,
Having been in the car wash/auto detailing business for almost 30 years I can tell
you I am very happy with the imron Watertown put on my plane. The stuff seems
to be very tough. 95% of auto vehicles we detail have clear coat and it
is very soft in my opinion. It is easy to polish out light scratches and blemishes,
but clear coat also is very prone to them whenever you touch it. Clear
coat in my opinion is like the plastic lens over your speedometer.
I have about 250 hours on my plane now and detail it often with a non-polish, spray
on liquid detailing wax. Takes all the bugs off easily, cleans the plane
and I have yet to see any wash rash in the paint. Normal automotive clear coat
on the other hand would require a polish type wax to keep it shiny.
Dave Leikam
On Aug 26, 2013, at 5:48 PM, jkreidler <jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Bill, I wish I had a place to spray. I think after doing the entire build
to get to the end and say I am not capable of painting is a bit deflating,
after all the best thing about the process is the education and experience.
Thanks for the feedback. - Jason
>
>
> Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:
>> I did my own paint and used a single stage Imron against the advice of a
>> few local, non aircraft paint shops. I think I made the right decision.
>>
>> For the DIY painter, single stage is less work. But fixing mistakes can
>> be harder. The paint pros explained that you can just sand out 2 stage
>> mistakes and cover everything with clear coat for the A1 final finish.
>> I see how 2 stage is required for a show winning finish but the single
>> stage stuff is really nice. Get a nice flake color for your '10 in
>> single stage and I think you'll be very happy. If your shop recommends
>> it, then I know you'll be happy if they are any good at all.
>>
>> My advice for the DIY painter is to find a local paint distributor you
>> want to work with and shoot one of the brands and lines that he
>> carries. I started with the idea of using aviation lines from Dupont or
>> PPG, but I ended up with a non-aviation line of Imron single stage
>> because the distributor was closer to me than the PPG shop. And only a
>> few places deal in the aviation lines. That turned out to be an inspired
>> decision. I made almost daily trips there during my paint process -
>> prices were good and while the advice was limited it was valuable for
>> this first time painter.
>>
>> My guess is that that advice can be applied to paint selection by a
>> paint shop - use what they like to use. I think skills are surprisingly
>> product specific. Paints/coatings is very high tech stuff. Experience
>> and manufacturers technical support are invaluable.
>>
>> Re regulations and their impact on paint; seems like almost everyone I
>> met at the local paint depot, who had been shooting polyurethanes over
>> the last decade was impaired. The guy who ran the place admitted that
>> he was impaired, not that it wasn't apparent. His paint booth had sat
>> idle for many years as a result. Many of his customers were impaired -
>> it only took a short conversation to experience the impairment. Very
>> scary indeed.
>>
>> The modern polyurethane paints are fantastic - single or 2 stage - but
>> toxic as hell. Fresh air breather mandatory. My objective for each
>> mix, shoot and cure was to never even catch a whiff of it. I mostly
>> succeeded. I had befriended a neighbor who ran a local paint shop
>> specializing in trucks, RVs and other big things. They were painting
>> the hull of a big sailing ship which was too big for even their oversize
>> booths. They shot it outside and I came by to watch along with a few
>> others. I quickly ran out of there when I realized I was getting more
>> exposure to Imron single stage standing 100 feet away than I was going
>> to get in my own shop. I'm scared of the stuff. It's very bad.
>>
>> Aviation or non-aviation paints? For our purposes, I don't think it
>> matters. I have no intention of dousing the plane in Skydrol. Rain is
>> like sandpaper at 400knots but even in a dive, I just can't flog the
>> horses that hard. 100knot rain erodes the old lacquers but good quality
>> poly seems impervious to 200knot rain. I think the sweet spot is a top
>> of the line Dupont Imron or PPG non-aviation paint. The lower priced
>> automotive lines are less durable but the industrial grade top of the
>> line stuff is "EAB aviation certified" in my unqualified opinion and
>> just a little cheaper than the aviation lines - and certainly more
>> available for the DIY painter.
>>
>> Bill "I didn't plan to paint but it turned out to be one of the most
>> enjoyable challenges of the build" Watson
>>
>>
>> On 8/26/2013 11:43 AM, jkreidler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are getting ready to have the airplane painted at Watertown in Wisconsin.
Any strong opinions / reasons for a single stage top coat versus a base coat
/ clear coat system? In both cases we will use aviation finishes.
>>>
>>> Jason
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| Subject: | Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here in
Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at least for
them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then onto Washington
DC for a couple of days.
I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been some
changes in the rules since then.
If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and would share
some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson corridor?
What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get them?
As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) but it
falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off limits
to private aircraft operations?
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www.ivankristensen.com
Builder # 40838
Flying (430hrs.)
C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
ivankris wrote:
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>
> I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been
some changes in the rules since then.
Understatement of all time!
I suggest you start by googling "Washington DC special flight rules area". You
must take an on-line course if you wish to fly close to DC, I think it is on the
TSA web site. That will tell you what you need to do to get to College Park.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
Don't know about the Hudson area. But you can take an online course to go ov
er the Special VFR airspace surrounding the DC area here.
https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55&preview=t
rue
Just need to plan ahead and communicate with ATC prior to entering.
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "ivankris" <ivankris@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me he
re in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at l
east for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then o
nto Washington DC for a couple of days.
>
> I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has be
en some changes in the rules since then.
>
> If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and wo
uld share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
>
> What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson c
orridor?
>
> What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get t
hem?
>
> As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) b
ut it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off l
imits to private aircraft operations?
>
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> Ivan Kristensen.
>
> www.ivankristensen.com
> Builder # 40838
> Flying (430hrs.)
> C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
Ivan, as far as the lights are concerned if so equipped .
On Tuesday, August 27, 2013, ivankris wrote:
> >
>
> Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me
> here in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time"
> (at least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and
> then onto Washington DC for a couple of days.
>
> I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has
> been some changes in the rules since then.
>
> If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and
> would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
>
> What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson
> corridor?
>
> What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get
> them?
>
> As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS)
> but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is
> off limits to private aircraft operations?
>
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> Ivan Kristensen.
>
> www.ivankristensen.com
> Builder # 40838
> Flying (430hrs.)
> C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
Living and flying in the DC area I wish it were quite that easy for airports
inside the Flight Restricted Zone (FRZ). The FRZ is the inside circular ar
ea centered on DCA. Flying into the three GA airports inside the FRZ requir
es a background clearance prior to your flight. If memory serves, and I may
be incorrect, you have to apply for that clearance in person. I had a one t
ime clearance into Andrews AFB to display my RV-8 at their annual open house
. I'll never do that again. If you want to get in close to DC I would sugg
est Gaithersburg as a better alternative. It's inside the SFRA but not the
FRZ. It's relatively close to the metro or an easy drive to DC. You still n
eed an SFRA flight plan etc but otherwise, as Tim said, it just takes a litt
le planning...and the online course certificate. Leesburg is another good c
hoice but will require a rental car or a very expensive cab ride to get into
DC.
Rick McBride
On Aug 27, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Timothy Meyer <tgmeyerster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't know about the Hudson area. But you can take an online course to go o
ver the Special VFR airspace surrounding the DC area here.
>
> https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55&preview=
true
>
> Just need to plan ahead and communicate with ATC prior to entering.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "ivankris" <ivankris@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me h
ere in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at l
east for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then o
nto Washington DC for a couple of days.
>>
>> I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has b
een some changes in the rules since then.
>>
>> If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and w
ould share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
>>
>> What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson
corridor?
>>
>> What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get
them?
>>
>> As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS)
but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is of
f limits to private aircraft operations?
>>
>> --------
>> Ivan Kristensen.
>>
>> www.ivankristensen.com
>> Builder # 40838
>> Flying (430hrs.)
>> C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
Take the on line course first, then go for it. I did it north to south about two
years ago and it was, at that time, a VFR at 1000-1300', enter at specific
points, announce position at specific points, and depart at specific point type
of flight, much like the pattern at an uncontrolled field. My mistake was that
I should have turned back instead of leaving, flown it in reverse then turned
and made one more pass. It is indeed a trip of a life time for many of us.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma AZ
---- Timothy Meyer <tgmeyerster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't know about the Hudson area. But you can take an online course to go over
the Special VFR airspace surrounding the DC area here.
>
> https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55&preview=true
>
> Just need to plan ahead and communicate with ATC prior to entering.
>
> Tim
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "ivankris" <ivankris@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here
in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at least
for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then onto Washington
DC for a couple of days.
> >
> > I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been
some changes in the rules since then.
> >
> > If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and would
share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
> >
> > What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson corridor?
> >
> > What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get them?
> >
> > As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) but
it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off limits
to private aircraft operations?
> >
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> > Ivan Kristensen.
> >
> > www.ivankristensen.com
> > Builder # 40838
> > Flying (430hrs.)
> > C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
There is also a course for flying the Hudson, if I recall correctly it is required.
We fly into KTEB, even if it is more expensive. Well worth the effort!
- Jason
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4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
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| Subject: | Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
For flying the Hudson there is a lot if information on the web such as:
https://www.faasafety.gov/files/gslac/courses/content/79/775/kneeboard.pdf
Recommend flying north to south. If you have enough gas then skip the stop
in New York. If not, Westchester County (HPN) is one I have used. Fly from
there to the Tappan Zee bridge and turn south down the Hudson. You will
need the New York Terminal Area chart
http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/chart/FAA_VFR_Terminal_Area_Charts.
asp along with your other standard charts.
For the DC visit, there are options inside and outside the SFRA. As noted,
you are required to do the on line course even if you are just in the area.
For airports your selection should depend on what you want to do. If you
want close to DC, your options are limited. If you are ok with being
outside the area but access to a commuter train to take you down town, there
is Stafford Airport (KRMN) near Fredericksburg, VA. You can catch the VRE
commuter train at a few locations in the area http://www.vre.org/ Note -
VRE runs north only in the morning and south only in the afternoon,
Monday-Friday only and no holidays. I believe you can also stay near
Frederick airport (KFDK) in Maryland and ride the MARC commuter train to
downtown DC. I believe it only runs Monday-Friday as well. If you want to
drive downtown more options are of course available.
I'm at Dogwood Airpark (VA42) a couple of miles from Stafford airport.
Please let me know if I can help.
Carl
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC.
Don't know about the Hudson area. But you can take an online course to go
over the Special VFR airspace surrounding the DC area here.
https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55
<https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55&preview=true
> &preview=true
Just need to plan ahead and communicate with ATC prior to entering.
Tim
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, "ivankris" <ivankris@rogers.com> wrote:
Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here
in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at
least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then
onto Washington DC for a couple of days.
I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been
some changes in the rules since then.
If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and
would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson
corridor?
What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get
them?
As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS)
but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off
limits to private aircraft operations?
--------
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www.ivankristensen.com
Builder # 40838
Flying (430hrs.)
C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
If you are going to that area, I'd suggest Caldwell over Teterboro. You
will still get a landing fee bill in the mail($10), but the gas is much
less, and you won't be in the middle of a bunch of kerosene burners.
Just as close to the City.
On 8/27/2013 2:45 PM, jkreidler wrote:
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> There is also a course for flying the Hudson, if I recall correctly it is required.
We fly into KTEB, even if it is more expensive. Well worth the effort!
- Jason
>
> --------
> Jason Kreidler
> 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
> Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
> N44YH - Flying - #40617
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| Subject: | Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. |
For DC: I flew into/out of College Park many years ago - it was fun -
cleared into class B and flew up the Anacostia river right by the Capitol
and into College Park. Then catch the metro and go downtown for the day; to
the Air and Space museum, and then fly back to North Carolina all in one
day. But check out this link for the procedure you would have to follow to
do it today. Its a fun read. Sad its come to this.
<http://www.collegeparkairport.org/vetting.html>
Have fun, I would recommend Gaithersburg too, instead of the above
procedure.
For NY: Watch this video it might be helpful and its well done and they are
using the skyline route.
-Chris Lucas
N919AR
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivankris
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC.
Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here
in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at
least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then
onto Washington DC for a couple of days.
I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been
some changes in the rules since then.
If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and
would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson
corridor?
What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get
them?
As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS)
but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off
limits to private aircraft operations?
--------
Ivan Kristensen.
www.ivankristensen.com
Builder # 40838
Flying (430hrs.)
C-GMDV
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| Subject: | Rv-14 and BBQ at the Watsonville Fly-In this weekend. |
Van's Aircraft is bringing the RV-14 to the Watsonville Airshow this
Labor Day Weekend, Aug. 31- Sept. 1. They will have the aircraft on
display Saturday all day and Sunday morning. A representative from Vans
will be around to answer questions.
Saturday evening, from 5:30 -- 7pm, Aircrafters will be hosting a BBQ
with hamburgers, hot dogs and veggie burgers for all the Pilots and
Passengers of Experimental Aircraft that have flown in for the show. We
will have the RV-14 at the hanger at that time as well. Also come to see
some new RV-10 and the RV-8 aircraft.
RSVP to bbq@aircraftersllc.com <mailto:bbq@aircraftersllc.com> or by
phone at 831-722-9141
Thanks,
Tim
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Tim Farrell -
Aircrafters -
Owner/Manager -
(831) 722-9141 -
www.aircraftersLLC.com
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