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     1. 06:45 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka)
     2. 07:43 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (johngoodman)
     3. 07:54 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Bill Watson)
     4. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka)
     5. 09:33 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (johngoodman)
     6. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka)
     7. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Carl Froehlich)
     8. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Tcwtech)
     9. 02:00 PM - Plane Power Alternator Fail (Jim Combs)
    10. 02:05 PM - Seat Adjuster Extensions (Dave Saylor)
    11. 02:12 PM - Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail (Dave Saylor)
    12. 02:39 PM - FWF Hoses (Chris Hukill)
    13. 03:19 PM - Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail (Don McDonald)
    14. 03:32 PM - Re: FWF Hoses (Steve T)
    15. 03:45 PM - HS-910 (Shannon Hicks)
    16. 03:50 PM - Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail (Pascal)
    17. 03:56 PM - Re: HS-910 (Dave Saylor)
    18. 04:21 PM - Re: HS-910 (Bob Leffler)
    19. 04:31 PM - Re: HS-910 (Shannon Hicks)
    20. 06:19 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Chris)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      Ivan I don't know if you received my last post but a reminder to make sure
      that the NY Yankees are not playing when you fly the Hudson corridor. There
      will be a TFR for the game and flight service doesn't warn you about it.
      The TFR extends in the corridor and you will get busted
      
      On Tuesday, August 27, 2013, Chris wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > For DC:  I flew into/out of College Park many years ago - it was fun -
      > cleared into class B and flew up the Anacostia river right by the Capitol
      > and into College Park. Then catch the metro and go downtown for the day; to
      > the Air and Space museum, and then fly back to North Carolina all in one
      > day. But check out this link for the procedure you would have to follow to
      > do it today. Its a fun read. Sad its come to this.
      >
      > <http://www.collegeparkairport.org/vetting.html>
      >
      > Have fun, I would recommend Gaithersburg too, instead of the above
      > procedure.
      >
      > For NY: Watch this video it might be helpful and its well done and they are
      > using the skyline route.
      >
      >
      > -Chris Lucas
      > N919AR
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;>
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of
      > ivankris
      > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:07 PM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <javascript:;>
      > Subject: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC.
      >
      > >
      >
      > Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me
      > here
      > in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at
      > least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then
      > onto Washington DC for a couple of days.
      >
      > I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has
      > been
      > some changes in the rules since then.
      >
      > If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and
      > would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
      >
      > What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson
      > corridor?
      >
      > What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get
      > them?
      >
      > As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS)
      > but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is
      > off
      > limits to private aircraft operations?
      >
      > --------
      > Ivan Kristensen.
      >
      > www.ivankristensen.com
      > Builder # 40838
      > Flying (430hrs.)
      > C-GMDV
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407592#407592
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      
      Good Grief!
      I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of weeks. I
      had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me into the mountains!
      The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas and a lot of water.
      There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 mile arc.
      I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was fun to fly.
      What do the locals recommend?
      
      John
      
      --------
      #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      
      I've done the NYC corridor a number of times - years ago and recently.  
      Amazingly not much has changed except that the options are better 
      documented now.  Others have provided the links.
      
      You basically want to decide whether you want to fly underneath in the 
      VFR corridor or in the Class B a couple of hundred feet higher.  Either 
      is a visual flight of a lifetime.  There can be a lot of traffic which 
      makes the Class B route preferable for me but either way works well.  
      Pilots tend to obey the rules of the road relative to altitudes and 
      sides of the river and position announcements in the VFR section.
      
      Flying south to north allows you to practically over fly the WTC 
      memorial site.  The fact that you can do that is amazing in itself.  It 
      also puts your passengers on the scenic side of the plane.
      
      You can go low and take a circle around the Statue of Liberty - that's a 
      notch on the stick for you and the passengers.
      
      It's a good time to stock up on some lightweight floatation devices for 
      the plane.  I felt I owed it to my passengers to have them onboard and 
      available even if I didn't fully brief them before the flight.
      
      I go in and out of KHPN and highly recommend Panorama Flight Service if 
      you stop.  If it fits your purposes, a low flight up the Hudson with a 
      landing at KHPN, followed by a normal altitude IFR/VFR departure south 
      generally results in vectors directly over JFK and an excellent high 
      altitude view of NYC.
      
      I've done DC before and after too.  Used to be accessible and fun.  Now, 
      not so much.  Not sure if there is anything resembling a scenic flight.  
      Access to the several layers of airports you can fly in and out of is 
      strictly managed and there is zero tolerance for deviations. I used to 
      go into Potomac and/or Hyde (forget which) but you need to go thru a 
      security procedure well in advance now.  Recently,  I've been flying in 
      and out of KANP - nothing to recommend or not recommend there.  A flight 
      into W29 is Cheasapeake Bay scenic and there are crab places nearby.  I 
      used to go into Kentmorr 3W3 for crabs at the marina but haven't taken 
      the '10 in the grass there yet.  Don't know much else.  You'll always 
      have NYC....
      
      Enjoy!
      
      
      On 8/27/2013 4:06 PM, ivankris wrote:
      >
      > Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here
      in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at least
      for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then onto Washington
      DC for a couple of days.
      >
      > I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been
      some changes in the rules since then.
      >
      > If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and would
      share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it.
      >
      > What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson corridor?
      >
      > What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get them?
      >
      > As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) but
      it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off limits
      to private aircraft operations?
      >
      > --------
      > Ivan Kristensen.
      >
      > www.ivankristensen.com
      > Builder # 40838
      > Flying (430hrs.)
      > C-GMDV
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407592#407592
      >
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      John depending on where in Atlanta your coming from V1 with keep you clear
      of of all the trouble.
      
      On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, johngoodman wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > Good Grief!
      > I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of
      > weeks. I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me
      > into the mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas
      > and a lot of water.
      > There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60
      > mile arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was
      > fun to fly. What do the locals recommend?
      >
      > John
      >
      > --------
      > #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      
      You're right, V1 will do the trick. It'll add a few miles but I think a fuel stop
      would be prudent in the Norfolk area. Thanks,
      John
      
      --------
      #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407639#407639
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      John if your making a fuel stop by Norfolk  KSFQ ($ 5.20)  or KCPK ($ 5.79)
      both right off V1. I have flown Into CPK nice airport friendly people.
      Haven't flown into SFQ but for .50 a gallon it might be worth the stop.
      Double check the fuel prices, I got it off of foreflight. What part of New
      Jersey are you flying into? Have fun on the trip if there is anything else
      I can help you with don't hesitate to ask. John Z
      
      On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, johngoodman wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > You're right, V1 will do the trick. It'll add a few miles but I think a
      > fuel stop would be prudent in the Norfolk area. Thanks,
      > John
      >
      > --------
      > #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407639#407639
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      
      The SFRA (where you need a clearance and specific squawk code) is 30nmi
      radius from DCA.  Between 30nmi and 60nmi is a speed restriction area only
      (you will not be going fast enough unless you burning Jet A).  No clearance
      is needed in that area.  Just stay out of the SFRA, mind the restricted
      areas and fly.  I do recommend flight following if VFR, especially if you
      are unfamiliar with the area. 
      
      Don't forget to take the on line FAA SFRA course (required if you are within
      60nmi of DCA - even if you don't want to enter the SFRA):
      https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55&preview=true
      
      Carl
      RV-10, 120 hours
      RV-8A, sold 
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman
      Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:43 AM
      Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC.
      
      --> <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
      
      Good Grief!
      I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of
      weeks. I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me
      into the mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas
      and a lot of water.
      There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 mile
      arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was fun
      to fly. What do the locals recommend?
      
      John
      
      --------
      #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      
      Do the online course.   It's not difficult.  Doesn't take too long.   Then you
      are all set.  I've flown around the east and west side depending on where I'm
      going and have had no issues.    However, I have been asked by briefers and controllers
      if I was familiar with the procedures.   Also be familiar with and have
      current charting for all the restricted areas.  I have been asked to confirm
      my intentions with respect to how I was avoiding various areas.   So situational
      awareness was critical.  
      
      Overall my experience with Potomac approach has been excellent  and easier to work
      with than the class B monster to the northeast.   The Philly/ NY area is really
      busy and can be overwhelming at times.  
      
      Bob Newman
      N541RV
      
      
      On Aug 28, 2013, at 10:42 AM, "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Good Grief!
      > I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of weeks.
      I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me into the
      mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas and a lot of
      water.
      > There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 mile
      arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was fun to
      fly. What do the locals recommend?
      > 
      > John
      > 
      > --------
      > #40572 Phase One complete and flying.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Plane Power Alternator Fail | 
      
      I have had my alternator fail after 570 hours.  Just stopped producing any
      power.   Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit.  Couple
      of questions:
      
      (1) How ore others doing with the Plane Power alternators (MTBF?)
      
      (2) Is there a local automotive alternative that is a bolt in replacement?
      (Autozone, Napa, Online source?)
      
      (3) Any ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is?
      
      Just curious
      
      Jim Combs
      N312F - 570 Hours
      
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| Subject:  | Seat Adjuster Extensions | 
      
      A while back I said we'd make a run of seat adjuster extension posts. We
      have stock now and they're available to purchase from our web site:
      
      http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.html?id=shop?id=products
      
      I said $30/set, and we'll hold that price for a month or so but they'll
      probably go up, so get'em cheap!
      
      
      Dave Saylor
      831-750-0284 CL
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail | 
      
      I had one turn on the low voltage light after a few hundred hours, even
      though the output voltage was correct.
      
      When it came back it had a different style housing on the back.  That was a
      few years ago and it still seems to be the current style.
      
      What did PP say?  I'd be kind of surprised if they charged to fix it.
       We've installed many with just that one issue.
      
      Dave Saylor
      831-750-0284 CL
      
      
      On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > I have had my alternator fail after 570 hours.  Just stopped producing any
      > power.   Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit.  Couple
      > of questions:
      >
      > (1) How ore others doing with the Plane Power alternators (MTBF?)
      >
      > (2) Is there a local automotive alternative that is a bolt in replacement?
      > (Autozone, Napa, Online source?)
      >
      > (3) Any ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is?
      >
      > Just curious
      >
      > Jim Combs
      > N312F - 570 Hours
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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      I=99m ordering up FWF parts and I talked to Vans about their 
      hoses. They  are now shipping all the FWF hoses as the integral 
      fire-sleeve/Teflon type, not just the fuel lines as in the past. Has 
      anyone received the the new hoses from Vans than can comment on the 
      quality of the hoses? I planned on having them made, but if Vans can 
      supply them, all the better.
      Thanks
      Chris Hukill
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail | 
      
      Give them a call... they're all good guys and great friends.- to my knowl
      edge they are always very fair.... Don McDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________
      ___________________=0A From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com
      >=0ATo: "rv10-list@matronics.com" <rv10-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Wednes
      day, August 28, 2013 4:08 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternat
      or Fail=0A =0A=0A=0AI had one turn on the low voltage light after a few hun
      dred hours, even though the output voltage was correct.=0A=0AWhen it came b
      ack it had a different style housing on the back. -That was a few years a
      go and it still seems to be the current style.=0A=0AWhat did PP say? -I'd
       be kind of surprised if they charged to fix it. -We've installed many wi
      th just that one issue.=0A=0A=0ADave Saylor=0A831-750-0284 CL=0A=0A=0AOn We
      d, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0AI 
      have had my alternator fail after 570 hours.- Just stopped producing any 
      power.-- Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit.- 
      Couple of questions:=0A>=0A>=0A(1) How ore others doing with the Plane Powe
      r alternators (MTBF?) =0A>=0A>(2) Is there a local automotive alternative t
      hat is a bolt in replacement? (Autozone, Napa, Online source?)=0A>=0A>(3) A
      ny ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is?=0A>=0A>Just curious
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      Chris and all...
      
      We would be happy to help you with your hoses.   We have hundreds of RVs usi
      ng our hoses.  They are conductive Teflon which means that they have no max s
      ervice life.  In addition we make them to your specs.  We have found that ev
      eryone does their routings slightly different.  While the vans hoses will fi
      t, they may not fit the way you want.
      
      We have more information at
      
      www.aircraftspecialty.com
      Or
      www.kitplanehoses.com
      
      Have a great day
      
      Steve
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Aug 28, 2013, at 16:37, "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net> wrote:
      
      > I=99m ordering up FWF parts and I talked to Vans about their hoses. T
      hey  are now shipping all the FWF hoses as the integral fire-sleeve/Teflon t
      ype, not just the fuel lines as in the past. Has anyone received the the new
       hoses from Vans than can comment on the quality of the hoses? I planned on h
      aving them made, but if Vans can supply them, all the better.
      > Thanks
      > Chris Hukill
      > 
      > 
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      I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard
      I try, I cannot complete.
      
      Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely
      frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't
      see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering
      to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would
      de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided
      to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the
      trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have
      interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand
      an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
      
      This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
      
      Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is
      the trick I am missing here.
      
      Shannon
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail | 
      
      Don knows all to well that Plane Power is a good group of folks. My 
      starter failed within hours of the first flight. They shipped me a new 
      starter the same day, well actually they personally delivered it to a 
      RV-10 pilot who delivered it to me. No charge (I did need to leave a 
      deposit, which was never posted, pending the replacement be returned) 
      Good honest folks. To boot they even had the RV-10 pilot help me replace 
      the starter and take the old one back.
      I=99m in California, they are next to Don in Texas.. 
      If anyone is wondering how much the whole process cost me?
      
      and now.. the rest of the story...
      Having a great friend that was coming out the next day to visit and 
      lives next to the owners- priceless! not to mention, but I will anyway, 
      the timing for this failure was perfect.. and I like re-telling this 
      story anyway.
      
      In the end, even before I mentioned names, Plane Power was first rate in 
      taking care of my concern and issue. Their technician  spent well over 1 
      hour with me troubleshooting the issue.
      
      Call them, if you haven't already!
      Pascal
      
      
      From: Don McDonald 
      Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:19 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail
      
      Give them a call... they're all good guys and great friends.  to my 
      knowledge they are always very fair.... Don McDonald
      
      
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      From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:08 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail
      
      
      I had one turn on the low voltage light after a few hundred hours, even 
      though the output voltage was correct.
      
      When it came back it had a different style housing on the back.  That 
      was a few years ago and it still seems to be the current style.
      
      What did PP say?  I'd be kind of surprised if they charged to fix it.  
      We've installed many with just that one issue.
      
      Dave Saylor
      831-750-0284 CL
      
      
      On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote:
      
        I have had my alternator fail after 570 hours.  Just stopped producing 
      any power.   Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit.  
      Couple of questions:
      
      
        (1) How ore others doing with the Plane Power alternators (MTBF?) 
      
      
        (2) Is there a local automotive alternative that is a bolt in 
      replacement? (Autozone, Napa, Online source?)
      
      
        (3) Any ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is?
      
      
        Just curious
      
      
        Jim Combs
      
        N312F - 570 Hours
      
      
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      Shannon, feel free to give me a call.  I think I can talk you through it.
       A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier.
      
      Dave Saylor
      =8BAirCrafters
      831-750-0284 CL
      
      
      On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how
      > hard I try, I cannot complete.
      >
      > Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me
      > completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours n
      ow
      > and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass
      > cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge
      ,
      > it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I
      > then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seeme
      d
      > to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. 
      I
      > have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could ju
      st
      > sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
      >
      > This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
      >
      > Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is
      > the trick I am missing here.
      >
      > Shannon
      >
      > *
      >
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      > *
      >
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      I just sent him an email ( from his posting on VAF) explaining the tips you s
      hared with me four or five years ago.   It just seems like yesterday when I t
      ook the class at your shop.   Time sure flies when you're having fun.
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
       wrote:
      
      > Shannon, feel free to give me a call.  I think I can talk you through it. 
       A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier.
      > 
      > Dave Saylor
      > =8BAirCrafters
      > 831-750-0284 CL
      > 
      > 
      > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote
      :
      >> I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how ha
      rd I try, I cannot complete. 
      >> 
      >> Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me complete
      ly frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don'
      t see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adherin
      g to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bo
      nd every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to ju
      st leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and
       everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in
       the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple i
      n the middle, but that doesn't seem right. 
      >> 
      >> This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed. 
      
      >> 
      >> Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is t
      he trick I am missing here.
      >> 
      >> Shannon
      >> 
      >> 
      >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
      >> tp://forums.matronics.com
      >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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      I just got off of the phone with Dave and have a much better idea on how to
      proceed. It is amazing how something so small can derail a project.
      
      Thanks for the help!
      On Aug 28, 2013 6:27 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
      
      > I just sent him an email ( from his posting on VAF) explaining the tips
      > you shared with me four or five years ago.   It just seems like yesterday
      > when I took the class at your shop.   Time sure flies when you're having
      > fun.
      >
      > Sent from my iPad
      >
      > On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dave Saylor <
      > dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      > Shannon, feel free to give me a call.  I think I can talk you through it.
      >  A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier.
      >
      > Dave Saylor
      > AirCrafters
      > 831-750-0284 CL
      >
      >
      > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks <civeng123@gmail.com>wrote:
      >
      >> I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how
      >> hard I try, I cannot complete.
      >>
      >> Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me
      >> completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now
      >> and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass
      >> cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge,
      >> it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I
      >> then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed
      >> to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I
      >> have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just
      >> sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right.
      >>
      >> This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed.
      >>
      >> Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is
      >> the trick I am missing here.
      >>
      >> Shannon
      >>
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| Subject:  | Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. | 
      
      
      forgot link.
      <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRXZ9MZkAe8>
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Chris [mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com] 
      Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:11 PM
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC.
      
      For DC:  I flew into/out of College Park many years ago - it was fun -
      cleared into class B and flew up the Anacostia river right by the Capitol
      and into College Park. Then catch the metro and go downtown for the day; to
      the Air and Space museum, and then fly back to North Carolina all in one
      day. But check out this link for the procedure you would have to follow to
      do it today. Its a fun read. Sad its come to this.
      
      <http://www.collegeparkairport.org/vetting.html>
      
      Have fun, I would recommend Gaithersburg too, instead of the above
      procedure.
      
      For NY: Watch this video it might be helpful and its well done and they are
      using the skyline route. 
      
      
      -Chris Lucas
      N919AR
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivankris
      Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:07 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC.
      
      
      Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here
      in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at
      least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then
      onto Washington DC for a couple of days.
      
      I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been
      some changes in the rules since then.
      
      If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and
      would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it. 
      
      What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson
      corridor?
      
      What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get
      them?
      
      As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS)
      but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off
      limits to private aircraft operations?
      
      --------
      Ivan Kristensen.
      
      www.ivankristensen.com
      Builder # 40838
      Flying (430hrs.)
      C-GMDV
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407592#407592
      
      
 
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