---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/28/13: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:45 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka) 2. 07:43 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (johngoodman) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Bill Watson) 4. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka) 5. 09:33 AM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (johngoodman) 6. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (John Zazulka) 7. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Carl Froehlich) 8. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Tcwtech) 9. 02:00 PM - Plane Power Alternator Fail (Jim Combs) 10. 02:05 PM - Seat Adjuster Extensions (Dave Saylor) 11. 02:12 PM - Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail (Dave Saylor) 12. 02:39 PM - FWF Hoses (Chris Hukill) 13. 03:19 PM - Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail (Don McDonald) 14. 03:32 PM - Re: FWF Hoses (Steve T) 15. 03:45 PM - HS-910 (Shannon Hicks) 16. 03:50 PM - Re: Plane Power Alternator Fail (Pascal) 17. 03:56 PM - Re: HS-910 (Dave Saylor) 18. 04:21 PM - Re: HS-910 (Bob Leffler) 19. 04:31 PM - Re: HS-910 (Shannon Hicks) 20. 06:19 PM - Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. (Chris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. From: John Zazulka Ivan I don't know if you received my last post but a reminder to make sure that the NY Yankees are not playing when you fly the Hudson corridor. There will be a TFR for the game and flight service doesn't warn you about it. The TFR extends in the corridor and you will get busted On Tuesday, August 27, 2013, Chris wrote: > > > > For DC: I flew into/out of College Park many years ago - it was fun - > cleared into class B and flew up the Anacostia river right by the Capitol > and into College Park. Then catch the metro and go downtown for the day; to > the Air and Space museum, and then fly back to North Carolina all in one > day. But check out this link for the procedure you would have to follow to > do it today. Its a fun read. Sad its come to this. > > > > Have fun, I would recommend Gaithersburg too, instead of the above > procedure. > > For NY: Watch this video it might be helpful and its well done and they are > using the skyline route. > > > -Chris Lucas > N919AR > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of > ivankris > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:07 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. > > > > > Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me > here > in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at > least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then > onto Washington DC for a couple of days. > > I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has > been > some changes in the rules since then. > > If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and > would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it. > > What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson > corridor? > > What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get > them? > > As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) > but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is > off > limits to private aircraft operations? > > -------- > Ivan Kristensen. > > www.ivankristensen.com > Builder # 40838 > Flying (430hrs.) > C-GMDV > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407592#407592 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:24 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. From: "johngoodman" Good Grief! I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of weeks. I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me into the mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas and a lot of water. There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 mile arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was fun to fly. What do the locals recommend? John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:45 AM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. I've done the NYC corridor a number of times - years ago and recently. Amazingly not much has changed except that the options are better documented now. Others have provided the links. You basically want to decide whether you want to fly underneath in the VFR corridor or in the Class B a couple of hundred feet higher. Either is a visual flight of a lifetime. There can be a lot of traffic which makes the Class B route preferable for me but either way works well. Pilots tend to obey the rules of the road relative to altitudes and sides of the river and position announcements in the VFR section. Flying south to north allows you to practically over fly the WTC memorial site. The fact that you can do that is amazing in itself. It also puts your passengers on the scenic side of the plane. You can go low and take a circle around the Statue of Liberty - that's a notch on the stick for you and the passengers. It's a good time to stock up on some lightweight floatation devices for the plane. I felt I owed it to my passengers to have them onboard and available even if I didn't fully brief them before the flight. I go in and out of KHPN and highly recommend Panorama Flight Service if you stop. If it fits your purposes, a low flight up the Hudson with a landing at KHPN, followed by a normal altitude IFR/VFR departure south generally results in vectors directly over JFK and an excellent high altitude view of NYC. I've done DC before and after too. Used to be accessible and fun. Now, not so much. Not sure if there is anything resembling a scenic flight. Access to the several layers of airports you can fly in and out of is strictly managed and there is zero tolerance for deviations. I used to go into Potomac and/or Hyde (forget which) but you need to go thru a security procedure well in advance now. Recently, I've been flying in and out of KANP - nothing to recommend or not recommend there. A flight into W29 is Cheasapeake Bay scenic and there are crab places nearby. I used to go into Kentmorr 3W3 for crabs at the marina but haven't taken the '10 in the grass there yet. Don't know much else. You'll always have NYC.... Enjoy! On 8/27/2013 4:06 PM, ivankris wrote: > > Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then onto Washington DC for a couple of days. > > I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been some changes in the rules since then. > > If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it. > > What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson corridor? > > What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get them? > > As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off limits to private aircraft operations? > > -------- > Ivan Kristensen. > > www.ivankristensen.com > Builder # 40838 > Flying (430hrs.) > C-GMDV > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407592#407592 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. From: John Zazulka John depending on where in Atlanta your coming from V1 with keep you clear of of all the trouble. On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, johngoodman wrote: > > > > Good Grief! > I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of > weeks. I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me > into the mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas > and a lot of water. > There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 > mile arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was > fun to fly. What do the locals recommend? > > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:33:44 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. From: "johngoodman" You're right, V1 will do the trick. It'll add a few miles but I think a fuel stop would be prudent in the Norfolk area. Thanks, John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407639#407639 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. From: John Zazulka John if your making a fuel stop by Norfolk KSFQ ($ 5.20) or KCPK ($ 5.79) both right off V1. I have flown Into CPK nice airport friendly people. Haven't flown into SFQ but for .50 a gallon it might be worth the stop. Double check the fuel prices, I got it off of foreflight. What part of New Jersey are you flying into? Have fun on the trip if there is anything else I can help you with don't hesitate to ask. John Z On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, johngoodman wrote: > > > > You're right, V1 will do the trick. It'll add a few miles but I think a > fuel stop would be prudent in the Norfolk area. Thanks, > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407639#407639 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:49 AM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. The SFRA (where you need a clearance and specific squawk code) is 30nmi radius from DCA. Between 30nmi and 60nmi is a speed restriction area only (you will not be going fast enough unless you burning Jet A). No clearance is needed in that area. Just stay out of the SFRA, mind the restricted areas and fly. I do recommend flight following if VFR, especially if you are unfamiliar with the area. Don't forget to take the on line FAA SFRA course (required if you are within 60nmi of DCA - even if you don't want to enter the SFRA): https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=55&preview=true Carl RV-10, 120 hours RV-8A, sold -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. --> Good Grief! I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of weeks. I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me into the mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas and a lot of water. There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 mile arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was fun to fly. What do the locals recommend? John -------- #40572 Phase One complete and flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. From: Tcwtech Do the online course. It's not difficult. Doesn't take too long. Then you are all set. I've flown around the east and west side depending on where I'm going and have had no issues. However, I have been asked by briefers and controllers if I was familiar with the procedures. Also be familiar with and have current charting for all the restricted areas. I have been asked to confirm my intentions with respect to how I was avoiding various areas. So situational awareness was critical. Overall my experience with Potomac approach has been excellent and easier to work with than the class B monster to the northeast. The Philly/ NY area is really busy and can be overwhelming at times. Bob Newman N541RV On Aug 28, 2013, at 10:42 AM, "johngoodman" wrote: > > Good Grief! > I'm planning a trip from the Atlanta Area to New Jersey in a couple of weeks. I had planned to fly around DC, but that 60 mile arc would force me into the mountains! The coastal way would have me dodging restricted areas and a lot of water. > There are a few Victor Airways around it but they all penetrate that 60 mile arc. I have no interest in seeing DC, I used to live there when it was fun to fly. What do the locals recommend? > > John > > -------- > #40572 Phase One complete and flying. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407629#407629 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:50 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail From: Jim Combs I have had my alternator fail after 570 hours. Just stopped producing any power. Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit. Couple of questions: (1) How ore others doing with the Plane Power alternators (MTBF?) (2) Is there a local automotive alternative that is a bolt in replacement? (Autozone, Napa, Online source?) (3) Any ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is? Just curious Jim Combs N312F - 570 Hours ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:38 PM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: RV10-List: Seat Adjuster Extensions A while back I said we'd make a run of seat adjuster extension posts. We have stock now and they're available to purchase from our web site: http://www.aircraftersllc.com/products.html?id=shop?id=products I said $30/set, and we'll hold that price for a month or so but they'll probably go up, so get'em cheap! Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:52 PM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail I had one turn on the low voltage light after a few hundred hours, even though the output voltage was correct. When it came back it had a different style housing on the back. That was a few years ago and it still seems to be the current style. What did PP say? I'd be kind of surprised if they charged to fix it. We've installed many with just that one issue. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Jim Combs wrote: > I have had my alternator fail after 570 hours. Just stopped producing any > power. Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit. Couple > of questions: > > (1) How ore others doing with the Plane Power alternators (MTBF?) > > (2) Is there a local automotive alternative that is a bolt in replacement? > (Autozone, Napa, Online source?) > > (3) Any ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is? > > Just curious > > Jim Combs > N312F - 570 Hours > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:25 PM PST US From: "Chris Hukill" Subject: RV10-List: FWF Hoses I=99m ordering up FWF parts and I talked to Vans about their hoses. They are now shipping all the FWF hoses as the integral fire-sleeve/Teflon type, not just the fuel lines as in the past. Has anyone received the the new hoses from Vans than can comment on the quality of the hoses? I planned on having them made, but if Vans can supply them, all the better. Thanks Chris Hukill ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:36 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail Give them a call... they're all good guys and great friends.- to my knowl edge they are always very fair.... Don McDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________ ___________________=0A From: Dave Saylor =0ATo: "rv10-list@matronics.com" =0ASent: Wednes day, August 28, 2013 4:08 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternat or Fail=0A =0A=0A=0AI had one turn on the low voltage light after a few hun dred hours, even though the output voltage was correct.=0A=0AWhen it came b ack it had a different style housing on the back. -That was a few years a go and it still seems to be the current style.=0A=0AWhat did PP say? -I'd be kind of surprised if they charged to fix it. -We've installed many wi th just that one issue.=0A=0A=0ADave Saylor=0A831-750-0284 CL=0A=0A=0AOn We d, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Jim Combs wrote:=0A=0AI have had my alternator fail after 570 hours.- Just stopped producing any power.-- Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit.- Couple of questions:=0A>=0A>=0A(1) How ore others doing with the Plane Powe r alternators (MTBF?) =0A>=0A>(2) Is there a local automotive alternative t hat is a bolt in replacement? (Autozone, Napa, Online source?)=0A>=0A>(3) A ny ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is?=0A>=0A>Just curious =0A>=0A>Jim Combs=0A>N312F - 570 Hours=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>get="_blank">ht tp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_b ==== ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: FWF Hoses From: Steve T Chris and all... We would be happy to help you with your hoses. We have hundreds of RVs usi ng our hoses. They are conductive Teflon which means that they have no max s ervice life. In addition we make them to your specs. We have found that ev eryone does their routings slightly different. While the vans hoses will fi t, they may not fit the way you want. We have more information at www.aircraftspecialty.com Or www.kitplanehoses.com Have a great day Steve Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2013, at 16:37, "Chris Hukill" wrote: > I=99m ordering up FWF parts and I talked to Vans about their hoses. T hey are now shipping all the FWF hoses as the integral fire-sleeve/Teflon t ype, not just the fuel lines as in the past. Has anyone received the the new hoses from Vans than can comment on the quality of the hoses? I planned on h aving them made, but if Vans can supply them, all the better. > Thanks > Chris Hukill > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:50 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: HS-910 From: Shannon Hicks I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how hard I try, I cannot complete. Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right. This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed. Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is the trick I am missing here. Shannon ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:44 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail Don knows all to well that Plane Power is a good group of folks. My starter failed within hours of the first flight. They shipped me a new starter the same day, well actually they personally delivered it to a RV-10 pilot who delivered it to me. No charge (I did need to leave a deposit, which was never posted, pending the replacement be returned) Good honest folks. To boot they even had the RV-10 pilot help me replace the starter and take the old one back. I=99m in California, they are next to Don in Texas.. If anyone is wondering how much the whole process cost me? and now.. the rest of the story... Having a great friend that was coming out the next day to visit and lives next to the owners- priceless! not to mention, but I will anyway, the timing for this failure was perfect.. and I like re-telling this story anyway. In the end, even before I mentioned names, Plane Power was first rate in taking care of my concern and issue. Their technician spent well over 1 hour with me troubleshooting the issue. Call them, if you haven't already! Pascal From: Don McDonald Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail Give them a call... they're all good guys and great friends. to my knowledge they are always very fair.... Don McDonald ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- From: Dave Saylor Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plane Power Alternator Fail I had one turn on the low voltage light after a few hundred hours, even though the output voltage was correct. When it came back it had a different style housing on the back. That was a few years ago and it still seems to be the current style. What did PP say? I'd be kind of surprised if they charged to fix it. We've installed many with just that one issue. Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Jim Combs wrote: I have had my alternator fail after 570 hours. Just stopped producing any power. Its the Plane Power alternator supplied with Vans FWF kit. Couple of questions: (1) How ore others doing with the Plane Power alternators (MTBF?) (2) Is there a local automotive alternative that is a bolt in replacement? (Autozone, Napa, Online source?) (3) Any ideas as to what the typical failure mechanism is? Just curious Jim Combs N312F - 570 Hours get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:15 PM PST US From: Dave Saylor Subject: Re: RV10-List: HS-910 Shannon, feel free to give me a call. I think I can talk you through it. A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier. Dave Saylor =8BAirCrafters 831-750-0284 CL On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks wrote: > I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how > hard I try, I cannot complete. > > Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me > completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours n ow > and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass > cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge , > it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I > then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seeme d > to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I > have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could ju st > sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right. > > This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed. > > Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is > the trick I am missing here. > > Shannon > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: HS-910 From: Bob Leffler I just sent him an email ( from his posting on VAF) explaining the tips you s hared with me four or five years ago. It just seems like yesterday when I t ook the class at your shop. Time sure flies when you're having fun. Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > Shannon, feel free to give me a call. I think I can talk you through it. A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier. > > Dave Saylor > =8BAirCrafters > 831-750-0284 CL > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks wrote : >> I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how ha rd I try, I cannot complete. >> >> Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me complete ly frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now and don' t see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass cloth adherin g to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, it would de-bo nd every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I then decided to ju st leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just sand an 1/8" dimple i n the middle, but that doesn't seem right. >> >> This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed. >> >> Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is t he trick I am missing here. >> >> Shannon >> >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: HS-910 From: Shannon Hicks I just got off of the phone with Dave and have a much better idea on how to proceed. It is amazing how something so small can derail a project. Thanks for the help! On Aug 28, 2013 6:27 PM, "Bob Leffler" wrote: > I just sent him an email ( from his posting on VAF) explaining the tips > you shared with me four or five years ago. It just seems like yesterday > when I took the class at your shop. Time sure flies when you're having > fun. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Dave Saylor < > dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote: > > Shannon, feel free to give me a call. I think I can talk you through it. > A couple little tricks make the fiberglass a lot easier. > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 831-750-0284 CL > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Shannon Hicks wrote: > >> I think I have finally come to a step in the build where, no mater how >> hard I try, I cannot complete. >> >> Installing the horizontal stabilizer end cap fairings has got me >> completely frustrated. I have been working on one for probably 40 hours now >> and don't see the end in sight. I first had issues with the fiberglass >> cloth adhering to the outside of the fairing. Since its a knife like edge, >> it would de-bond every time I tried to remove the temporary foam rib. I >> then decided to just leave the foam rib and glass it in place. That seemed >> to do the trick and everything looked great until I clecoed it in place. I >> have interference in the middle of the outside layer of cloth. I could just >> sand an 1/8" dimple in the middle, but that doesn't seem right. >> >> This is the first step where I am absolutely stumped as how to proceed. >> >> Does anyone out there make aftermarket, complete hs-910? If not, what is >> the trick I am missing here. >> >> Shannon >> >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > ================================== > ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ===================================cs.com > ===================================matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:59 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. forgot link. -----Original Message----- From: Chris [mailto:toaster73@embarqmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. For DC: I flew into/out of College Park many years ago - it was fun - cleared into class B and flew up the Anacostia river right by the Capitol and into College Park. Then catch the metro and go downtown for the day; to the Air and Space museum, and then fly back to North Carolina all in one day. But check out this link for the procedure you would have to follow to do it today. Its a fun read. Sad its come to this. Have fun, I would recommend Gaithersburg too, instead of the above procedure. For NY: Watch this video it might be helpful and its well done and they are using the skyline route. -Chris Lucas N919AR -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivankris Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: RV10-List: Flying the Hudson through NY and to Washington DC. Next week I have a couple of old friends from Europe coming to visit me here in Canada and I am planning to take them on a "Trip of a Life Time" (at least for them) in my RV-10 down the Hudson River NY. VFR corridor and then onto Washington DC for a couple of days. I did this trip about 20 years ago in a Comanche so I am sure there has been some changes in the rules since then. If anyone out there has flown this this trip in the last year or so and would share some of the Do's and Dont's with me I would sure appreciate it. What airport in the NY area is a good one to launch from to do the Hudson corridor? What publications and charts do I need and where is the best place to get them? As far as airports in the DC area I am thinking about College Park (KCGS) but it falls within the vail of a current TFR. Does that mean that it is off limits to private aircraft operations? -------- Ivan Kristensen. www.ivankristensen.com Builder # 40838 Flying (430hrs.) 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